I still remember a hongki friend ask me a question bout singapore when we discussed about hk independence. How exactly did singapore manage to exit malaysia in 1965? I couldn't answer and to be frank, I don't exactly have any idea regarding the matter.

Singapore was initially belonged to Johor Kingdom. Thomas Stamford Raffles arrived in 1819 and signed a treaty with Sultan Hussein Shah of Johor, on behalf of the British East India Company, to develop the southern part of Singapore as a British trading post. In 1824 the entire island, as well as the Temenggong, became a British possession after a further treaty with the Sultan.

As a result of the 1962 Merger Referendum, on 16 September 1963 Singapore joined with the Federation of Malaya. Which means british has no control over singapore anymore. And by right, singapore should return to Johor. How on earth did singapore manage to exit and become independent state?

If this is possible, then why hk, macau and taiwan arent allow to do so?



Anyone knows how and why?

tu la masa sekolah tidur..now sudah besar asyik mengkuda dalam /k

who ask u to sleep during sejarah class

Bodo

those singkies they kneel down to malays and beg to be spare and Independence

the sith bawak darth maul gaduh lightsaber ngan TAR

TAR ckp dia takmau membunuh

so sith empire amik singapore dari malaysia

Guys, remember this is bingding

the same reason why indonesia isn't part of malaysia

Keyword
gua punya island gua decide, ko xsuke ko kluar

sorry, British
The island by dint of being perforce within my possession and under my control, naturally shall be disposed of as I see fit. Good day.

u think i joke? why don u answer me? i didnt sleep during class and my sejarah didnt say anything regarding this, well at least specific and convincing facts. that parts was hurriedly brought through

patienceGNR your friend lai liao hahahahaha

singapore out cause exchange with sabah and sarawak..

because General Washington wants independence, so they claimed independence

oh wai....

Why bingding ari ari tered sejarah

Tingkatan 3 - Sejarah - potentially bias review

do u think u know sejarah? if sejarah is absolute transparent and covers everything that u need to know bout the truth, there is no something called memoirs of lee kuan yew

did u read before u scan? which part state singapore could be independently managed by mr lee?

This post has been edited by bingding: Feb 23 2017, 04:52 PM

Sarawak Sabah should just quit too cause their oil monies can finance their own sovereign funds like Norway, no need UMNO dogs to rule them like subclass sub humans

read back your sejarah book,it was mentioned why they were kicked out since LKY really pushing for malaysian malaysia policy which contradict to the constitution

Sg independence because.... i tak suka u, u keluar.

Why lah u feed this purposely declared bodo troll...now u continue to answer more bodo questions

yes, i know what u say. i mean why did they let LKY to govern singapore in the first place? sg belongs to johor sultanate right? if like u say, then hk oso can do the same thing by pushing some contradicting theory to withdraw from china. they are the same theory.

Ehh..pak guard ni senang betul. tak yah kerja ke?

This post has been edited by siaoand1: Feb 23 2017, 05:00 PM

Of course not I read la, you think I kesah so much on politics in Sejarah textbook meh.

Some more is free eBook online lel.

Kasi mod ban lo

Please explain. Why they join?

It is because Singapore is considered a separate country when the land is given to the British.

HK and Taiwan was never independent, HK was leased from china for 99 years, and after the lease completion in 1997 is returned to china.

Taiwan and China is still in a state of war. China is claiming Taiwan as rebel state.

Go learn more history lessons.

This post has been edited by gark: Feb 23 2017, 05:04 PM

isean, thanks for that, but my sole question was how did malaya let singapore; a land which belong to malaya govern by lee kuan yew? you have a house, and i come and take over the house and your land, what will u do? u will give up the house and land and give it to me? NO right? my question is why they give up sg.

Maybe lge should do d same... ...

sg also leased to british but didnt state how long, and the treaty says for as long as british wants

pi cari kerja la

Why they give up SG ? The answeres were already given above. LKY wants Malaysia for Malaysians, equal rights for all. Malaysia cant accept that as Malays has special rights.
If you want to join a club and the club for unfair rules, you still want to join meh ?

So for two years they debated and disccused and an impasse happened and thus SG came out of Malaysia.

cina vs melayu riot...

No end date, means effectively given already lar.. in rule of law.

HK got end date.

This post has been edited by gark: Feb 23 2017, 05:09 PM

hades, try to understand my ques. i know why sg kena kicked, but what i don understand is how come malaya let singapore to be governed by lky in the first place instead of taking back singapore just like what china is doing now.

what im saying is, why malaya give lky a chance to take over sg which was originally belong to malaya?

I think I read somewhere it was due to racial conflict & also Jews influences in Sg.. Not really sure.

they underestimated lky at first.

then they are afraid of lky after that.

how? lky v rich?

LKY was a political leader already active in Singapore under British rule. So when the British pulled out, LKY felt his country is too small and thus figured join with Malaysia to be come stronger. But after 2 years, cant join, leave loh.

British ruled both countries differently and governed them independantly however under one British rule.

Next question, why Chin Peng become communist ? Why not liberal or democrat or MCA ?

This post has been edited by Hades76: Feb 23 2017, 05:15 PM

but both countries (sg n malaya) oredi independent. then, how is it related to british again? malaya can self take back sg right?

and who is chin peng?

+1

Maybe her / his sejarah failed

In 1959 Britain granted Singapore a large degree of self-rule. Mr Lee, leader of the People’s Action Party, became prime minister after a landslide election victory.



sos: copy paste from google

so sg is when independent? 1959 or 1965?

1959 then 1965 till present

Similar to Sarawak but sadly did not achieve 2nd independent although the Sarawakians rebelled against the formation. Those leaders that against it were rest in pieces.

Sarawak gained self-government from the British on 22 July 1963 and formed the Federation of Malaysia together with Singapore, North Borneo and the Federation of Malaya on 16 September 1963.
After the federation, it never restore its full independence and sovereignty as enjoyed during the rule of the White Rajahs. As it degraded from equal partnership to merely a state.

china mana ada stupiak sampai let go developed island, if so hk ppl enjoice already

i think since they cannot ask all cainis to balik tongsan, they have a give them one island to gather, island with no natural resources

Winners write history.

Because at that time the country isn't stable
*British wanna withdraw fast fast
*indo and pinoy hates My. Even send invasion team
*communist terrorist is rampant in rural
*socialist communist party is stronk in urban areas
*pendatang outnumbered the bumi at this time.
*racial tension so high every few years fight broke out leaving pipu dead.

So Tunku unilaterally decided for a two state solution (kinda like Israel) one homeland for the Bumi another for Democrats capitalist overseas chinis (since living in communist china isn't really an option)


This is why HK will not gain self determination. Simply becoz china isn't in any kind of shit. Even if they rolls in tanks no one in the world will backed hongkis at all. Last time they invade Tibet leaving almost a million dead (according to dalai Lama) no one does shit and pretend not seeing anything.

Also what will hongkis eat? In SG case. Indon so please that My-Sg separate that they allow indon to be sinki hinterland. Where indon put their money, get treatment, their transhipment Centre as well as Changi being indon gateways to the world (because indon port,airport all sucks)

I was about to give an honest answer until I realized its bingding lol.

Apasai triggered

yes, thanks so much for u sincere reply. true. im convinced with ur answer and i much appreciate it.

actually, the memoirs oso say that, cause when singapore under british rule, it is a very important port and colony for the british. The british has many important trades to do at sg port. a lot of sgreans (particularly chinese) merchants decided to reside in singapore due to the chaos back in mainland china. When singapore join malaya, malaya was worried that these rich merchants might spead the influence through the whole malaya. at that time in the beginning of unification, malaya already had a lot of problem and issues. therefore, in order to stop 'singapore' from controlling malaya in future, malaya had no choice but to let singapore go. which at the same time, singapore oso wanna quit. its like a win win situation. and hence sg become an independent sovereign state.

hk one i nothing to add, cause oso not so sure

Ask Johor Royal they can answer you

Bkn brunei nei mey?

bingding dtg lg dgn tered SG & HK udang exaggerating nya

stirring shit again..lol..

i really wonder wat SG did to u..

thy reject ur PR?

dont let u in?

Its because of Trump....

all we know is that the msian gov had poor foresight 51 years ago... so suck it up ts.

Oledi know the answer, still open tered ask the same question. Wat u want to troll about actually?

Abcdingding, abclowyatdingding LEL

The History OF SG

TAR balls shrink when he heard Lee Kuan Yew spoke in parliament with prefect malay. The rest is history.

North Borneo can follow SG's footstep or not??

So TS bila want ask bila kedah want take back Penang?

of coz can

sadly, we don't have calibre leaders like LKY......

can keluar but development of all states in m'sia might become stagnate as everyone is affected.

It was belonged to johor sultanate long time ago. Right after raffles arrived, a treaty was made in 1819 known as singapore treaty that made singapore a self ruling state.

After the war and the creation of Malaya in 1957, communism was spreading fast in the Peninsula region so in order curb singapore to fall into cummunist hand due to its high majority chinese pop., a Malaysia partnership was made, Sabah and Swk were invited as well. Which mean Sg, Sabah, Swk and Malaya are equal partners.That's why LKY can speak and giving his idea freely due to equal partnership.

However, in the end, due to the constraint relationship between Malaya and Sg, the late PM decided to withdraw Sg from the partnership.

Johor then isn't the same as current johor.

The old royal family control johore which is currently pahang+johor+Singapore+riau+lingga.
The treaty of Singapore also dissolute the sultanate and a new dynasty take over and forms current johor.

johor gov please tuntut singapore.

I know right, what I'm trying to do is simplify the whole thing to TS