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 Will an external USB DAC improve sound quality, in my present PC audio setup?

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post Feb 22 2017, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Feb 22 2017, 07:34 AM)
You should install SACD component and asio. Dsddif is just merely converting your DSD into PCM
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That's what I thought too.

Thanks for the tip. smile.gif

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post Feb 22 2017, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(wim1983 @ Feb 22 2017, 12:14 AM)
I worry later u heart attack or regret, China product very very risky, the price actually not cheap, better you bought something from local store, which provide testing, this one no testing, not worth oh, if product with reputation ok la hmm.gif
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If can open, see what are the components and check if no fake caps/transistors, etc. Especially the power section.
I've got a china clone DIY Naim NAP200 power amp, Now letting it turn on for 1 week no turn off. So far running well. Sounds quite ok too, but I've never compared to a real NAP200 so I have no idea the performance.

QUOTE(raynman @ Feb 21 2017, 10:43 PM)
A full-blown USB DAC with SPDIF coaxial out is much cheaper than your USB-to-SPDIF converter. biggrin.gif

The X-HDA1 PCM/DSD DAC is available from AliExpress for only USD76.

I will most probably buy this.  smile.gif
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But I thought you said difference between an external USB DAC and your integrated audio codec is 11am and 12 noon.

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post Feb 22 2017, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(penmarker @ Feb 22 2017, 09:48 AM)
If can open, see what are the components and check if no fake caps/transistors, etc. Especially the power section.
I've got a china clone DIY Naim NAP200 power amp, Now letting it turn on for 1 week no turn off. So far running well. Sounds quite ok too, but I've never compared to a real NAP200 so I have no idea the performance.

But I thought you said difference between an external USB DAC and your integrated audio codec is 11am and 12 noon.
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Still got slight difference mah.... noon is slightly hotter and brighter. biggrin.gif

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post Feb 22 2017, 09:57 AM

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penmarker, do you think I should buy the X-HDA1? smile.gif

Does the internal components look legit?

I have no idea.

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post Feb 22 2017, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Feb 22 2017, 10:57 AM)
penmarker, do you think I should buy the X-HDA1? smile.gif

Does the internal components look legit?

I have no idea.

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Better not take risk, imagine you bought a China product, what next brows.gif

My advice also is, check the feedback rating is it 100%? Even ebay I try to shop only when 100% good feeback thumbsup.gif

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post Feb 22 2017, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Feb 22 2017, 09:57 AM)
penmarker, do you think I should buy the X-HDA1? smile.gif

Does the internal components look legit?

I have no idea.
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High noon is hotter and can have ice cream. laugh.gif
They're SMD components, very small so hard to determine if legit. The Cirrus Logic CS4398 DAC chip is one of their flagship chips, but implementation circuit is also a determining factor for sound quality. Its the same chip inside Astell&Kern AK100.
It says there in the listing it doesn't support DSD out from COAX, so only line out or headphone out.

I'm not worried about any component blowing smoke or etc at all its only a 5V device, just concerned about whether it will be good for $75.
If got extra money then can try buy. I won't mind buying if like around RM150 or so just to test.
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post Feb 22 2017, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Feb 22 2017, 09:57 AM)
penmarker, do you think I should buy the X-HDA1? smile.gif

Does the internal components look legit?

I have no idea.

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Look good with the price. But dont know if they implemented it well. Also if they use good quality components. For for that price, it is good.
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post Feb 22 2017, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Feb 22 2017, 08:21 AM)
That's what I thought too.

Thanks for the tip.  smile.gif
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No problem. The only limitation is it cannot support DSD256 and above.
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post Feb 22 2017, 10:57 AM

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Why not try nu prime DSD dac
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post Feb 22 2017, 11:00 AM

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Thanks for your feedback.

I will KIV this DAC as a potential buy.

I am in no rush. Still scouting for other good buys as well.

Meanwhile, I am enjoying the 11am performance. laugh.gif
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post Feb 22 2017, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Feb 22 2017, 10:57 AM)
Why not try nu prime DSD dac
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I'd trust the nuprime too.

QUOTE(raynman @ Feb 22 2017, 11:00 AM)
Thanks for your feedback.

I will KIV this DAC as a potential buy.

I am in no rush. Still scouting for other good buys as well.

Meanwhile, I am enjoying the 11am performance. laugh.gif
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My setup only 9am i think laugh.gif but still enjoyable too.
Just contact me if you still want to use an external DAC since I got that extra Aune T1. But no digital out though, only RCA and headphone.
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post Feb 22 2017, 11:41 AM

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Thanks for the offer man, but I would need an SPDIF digital out to test out my Yamaha DAC. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(raynman @ Feb 22 2017, 11:41 AM)
Thanks for the offer man, but I would need an SPDIF digital out to test out my Yamaha DAC.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Your motherboard sound so advance, even had amp for headphone but no spdif/coaxial?
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 22 2017, 11:45 AM)
Your motherboard sound so advance, even had amp for headphone but no spdif/coaxial?
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Nope, HP didn't provide an SPDIF out for the motherboard, although the IDT 92HD65C audio codec supports it.

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Feb 22 2017, 07:34 AM)
You should install SACD component and asio. Dsddif is just merely converting your DSD into PCM
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I have installed the SACD plugin and removed the DSDIFF decoder.

File format indicator DSD128 now correctly appears during playback of a DFF file. thumbsup.gif

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post Feb 22 2017, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Feb 22 2017, 01:41 PM)
I have installed the SACD plugin and removed the DSDIFF decoder.

File format indicator DSD128 now correctly appears during playback of a DFF file.  :thumbsup:

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Good to hear. Enjoy the music. External dac does make a lot of different. Of course provided the external dac is good enough
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Feb 22 2017, 06:42 PM)
Good to hear. Enjoy the music. External dac does make a lot of different. Of course provided the external dac is good enough
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Will it be a night and day difference?
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QUOTE(raynman @ Feb 22 2017, 07:37 PM)
Will it be a night and day difference?
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Simple answer is yes but it also depend on your speaker, amp, cabling. Just adding a dac and hope for 100% is not possible. I personally used before few different dac. It does make the different. The current dac I used is totally night and day different with all my previous dac
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QUOTE(raynman @ Feb 22 2017, 07:37 PM)
Will it be a night and day difference?
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Could be big different with good DAC like DragonFly Red or Cord Mojo or Audiolab M-DAC+ or Gustard X20pro or SMSL M9 etc thumbup.gif


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post Feb 23 2017, 09:21 AM

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Some DACs just like headphones, added with lot of ajinomoto.

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