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SUSraynman
post Feb 21 2017, 09:00 AM, updated 9y ago

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I am using a HP Pavilion PC with an integrated audio codec (IDT 92HD65C) for listening to music and watching movies/videos.

I was using an Edifier R401 powered 2.1 speaker system, but I found the sonic presentation lacking clarity and detail.

Recently I replaced the Edifier with the Yamaha DSP-A3090 AV amplifier and TDL RTL2 reflex transmission line speakers.

These are audio gear left over from the 1990s when I was an avid AV enthusiast.

What a difference that made. Really 'night and day'.

Surprisingly, the integrated audio codec did a pretty good job. It can decode 24bit/192kHz audio files (foobar2000 with wasapi plugin).

Unfortunately the PC does not have a digital out, so I can't use the DAC in the Yamaha amplifier to hear the sonic difference.

Will an external USB DAC improve sound quality in my present PC audio setup?

The Yamaha DSP-A3090 amplifier
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The TDL RTL2 reflex transmission line speakers
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post Feb 21 2017, 09:17 AM

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Usually DAC can improve the sound quality, but ain't come cheap. Usually good DAC costs over RM2K. but first the question, you wanna stereo output or multichannel output?
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post Feb 21 2017, 09:25 AM

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For me, stereo output takes precedence over multi-channel.
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post Feb 21 2017, 09:26 AM

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Will an external USB DAC improve sound quality in my present PC audio setup?

Good external DAC will improved sound quality compare with on-board sound card.
If you want cheap, basic & good USB DAC try FiiO E10k or better DAC try SMSL M8 or Chord Mojo. You could find it at Garage Sale here or Lazada, test it with your AV system.

Your Yamaha AV receiver among the top/highend model, it could bring very good natural detail sound. rclxms.gif

http://www.lazada.com.my/sh-smsl-m8-portab...e-20166281.html

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post Feb 21 2017, 09:28 AM

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get a USB DDC and use your yamaha DAC
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post Feb 21 2017, 09:28 AM

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Definitely. An external DAC will be an improvement over the onboard solution.
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post Feb 21 2017, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(azuradaniel @ Feb 21 2017, 09:26 AM)
Will an external USB DAC improve sound quality in my present PC audio setup?

Good external DAC will improved sound quality compare with on-board sound card.
If you want cheap, basic & good USB DAC try FiiO E10k or better DAC try SMSL M8 or Chord Mojo. You could find it at Garage Sale here or Lazada, test it with your AV system.

Your Yamaha AV receiver among the top/highend model, it could bring very good natural detail sound. rclxms.gif
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I can't afford a Chord Mojo. laugh.gif

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post Feb 21 2017, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Feb 21 2017, 09:31 AM)
I can't afford a Chord Mojo. laugh.gif
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Why not try SMSL M8 or Dragonfly black/red, already good enough. Anyway built-in DAC inside your Yamaha AV Receiver also not bad.
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post Feb 21 2017, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Sieg @ Feb 21 2017, 09:28 AM)
get a USB DDC and use your yamaha DAC
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Good idea thumbsup.gif !

Anyway where could we get it locally or any DIY seller locally?
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post Feb 21 2017, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Sieg @ Feb 21 2017, 09:28 AM)
get a USB DDC and use your yamaha DAC
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Great idea!

Never thought of that.

Where can I get it? smile.gif
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Jaben should have some. I believe they sell the iFi audio stuff too. smile.gif
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post Feb 21 2017, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Feb 21 2017, 09:49 AM)
Great idea!

Never thought of that.

Where can I get it?  smile.gif
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I only could find expensive USB DDC like this: http://www.lazada.com.my/sotm-dx-usb-hd-di...dc-1152657.html
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QUOTE(azuradaniel @ Feb 21 2017, 10:50 AM)
I only could find expensive USB DDC like this: http://www.lazada.com.my/sotm-dx-usb-hd-di...dc-1152657.html
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It is just to test out the DAC in my Yamaha amp.

No way I will spend this kind of money. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(raynman @ Feb 21 2017, 09:49 AM)
Great idea!

Never thought of that.

Where can I get it?  smile.gif
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If you're interested, someone is selling a Consonance Box 1.1 USB to SPDIF converter.
The impression is great in this audiokarma thread.
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/index.php...oly-cow.430272/
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post Feb 21 2017, 11:17 AM

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USB 24bit/96KHz input, S/PDIF coaxial output.
Plug and play with Windows/Apple.
Excellent sound quality.
Well engineered product by Consonance Audio.
Condition: Used less than one year. Like new. Perfect working condition. 9/10
No original box.
Included one Belden 75 Ohm digital coaxial cable.
Price RM 400 firm.
Shipping free in Malaysia.
Reason for sale: bought to use with my non USB DAC.
Now upgraded to new DAC with USB.

At this price I prefer USB DAC, may be order SMSL M8 to replace my GoVibe U-DAC.

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QUOTE(azuradaniel @ Feb 21 2017, 11:17 AM)
USB 24bit/96KHz input, S/PDIF coaxial output.
Plug and play with Windows/Apple.
Excellent sound quality.
Well engineered product by Consonance Audio.
Condition: Used less than one year. Like new. Perfect working condition. 9/10
No original box.
Included one Belden 75 Ohm digital coaxial cable.
Price RM 400 firm.
Shipping free in Malaysia.
Reason for sale: bought to use with my non USB DAC.
Now upgraded to new DAC with USB.

At this price I prefer USB DAC, may be order SMSL M8 to replace my GoVibe U-DAC.
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I don't think for RM400 a USB DAC will sound substantially better than your built in DAC on the amp.
But if you're interested I have an extra Aune T1 MK2 I don't use. I can loan it to you until you get a new DAC. You can try comparing too.
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post Feb 21 2017, 11:47 AM

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Is there an external USB DAC with optical or coaxial digital out that I can use to connect to my Yamaha amplifier's digital input?

I also want to know how my Yamaha DSP-A3090 DAC sounds like. smile.gif
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post Feb 21 2017, 12:02 PM

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try this:

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/MU...2382833706.html

QUOTE(raynman @ Feb 21 2017, 11:47 AM)
Is there an external USB DAC with optical or coaxial digital out that I can use to connect to my Yamaha amplifier's digital input?

I also want to know how my Yamaha DSP-A3090 DAC sounds like. smile.gif
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post Feb 21 2017, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Feb 21 2017, 11:47 AM)
Is there an external USB DAC with optical or coaxial digital out that I can use to connect to my Yamaha amplifier's digital input?

I also want to know how my Yamaha DSP-A3090 DAC sounds like. smile.gif
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does your yamaha amp have optical in? i think a desktop should have a optical out so u can try to use that connection, (transport the digital file to ur amp to decode) .
i'm using Audinst MX1 dac/headphone amp, it does have line out and optical out. but now it is more expensive than before.
suggest u go try cheap usb dac like our local Stoner acoustics products.

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post Feb 21 2017, 01:09 PM

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Will an external USB DAC improve sound quality, in my present PC audio setup?

When you said "improving sound quality", first you must know what do you actually want to improve; high, mid, low frequency? soundstage? noise? etc. Smoothness?

You will get overwhelming suggestions from others. But do they sound good to you? That comes back to your preference again. It also depend on your gears.

I normally will opt for neutral and low noise dac ... Then you can move along to your amp and speaker for the sound of your liking.

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