Using my iPhone 6S
Connect to a 2.4Ghz SSID (DLink DIR-868L router)
Did a Speedtest and got this result.
Then connect to a 5Ghz SSID (on the same router)
Did a Speedtest and got this result.
How come I can get a faster speed on the 5Ghz connection?
2.4Ghz and 5Ghz connection, at different speed
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Feb 13 2017, 09:51 AM, updated 9y ago
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More bandwidth on the 5GHz signal
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Feb 13 2017, 09:55 AM
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2.4GHz: Wider range + Better penetration through walls + Slower speed
5Ghz: Smaller range + Worst penetration through walls + Faster speed |
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Feb 13 2017, 09:56 AM
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Feb 13 2017, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Feb 13 2017, 10:35 AM) its a hardware limitation, not the internet speed limitations Which hardware limitation? iPhone or the router?me on 2.4GHz in a 30mbps unifi getting 7 mbps only, while on 5ghz get 28 mbps 5 ghz is a short range firing wireless network, while 2.4ghz is more extensive |
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Feb 13 2017, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(cucubud @ Feb 13 2017, 09:56 AM) I was the only one using at that time. Nothing to do with the matter at handQUOTE(cucubud @ Feb 13 2017, 11:13 AM) I tried on iPhone 7. Same result as the iPhone 6S. Because iPhone 7 & 6s support Wireless ACI tried on iPhone 5. Only managed to get below 100Mbps on both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz. iPhone 5 only supports Wireless N |
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Feb 13 2017, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(cucubud @ Feb 13 2017, 10:52 AM) to be more specific is hardware technology limitation 2.4ghz can reach so far as 300mbps but you aint going to get that full speed. Lets factor in the bandwidth, the width of 2.4ghz wireless-n is 40mhz and while 5ghz width have 80mhz which double up the so call "highway" to allow more data to be transmitted. This effectively explain why there is so much different on 2.4ghz & 5ghz. The fibre internet speed in singapore is hitting way over what 2.4ghz wireless can do. In malaysia....only TIME fibre are doing that. Meanwhile if you are on unifi forget about it, majority unifi user are still stuck on below 50mbps |
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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Feb 13 2017, 12:05 PM) to be more specific is hardware technology limitation On 2.4Ghz connection, I can't even get 100Mbps. Always around 90Mbps.2.4ghz can reach so far as 300mbps but you aint going to get that full speed. Lets factor in the bandwidth, the width of 2.4ghz wireless-n is 40mhz and while 5ghz width have 80mhz which double up the so call "highway" to allow more data to be transmitted. This effectively explain why there is so much different on 2.4ghz & 5ghz. The fibre internet speed in singapore is hitting way over what 2.4ghz wireless can do. In malaysia....only TIME fibre are doing that. Meanwhile if you are on unifi forget about it, majority unifi user are still stuck on below 50mbps Any users from Time 300Mbps can give some feedback? |
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Feb 13 2017, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Feb 13 2017, 12:15 PM) as mention you will not get 300mbps fully outta of 2.4ghz I understand what you meant on not able to get 300Mbps on 2.4Ghz but 100Mbps also cannot get.is shared and not all wireless-N standard can give you that During the testing, I was the only user in the apartment. |
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Feb 13 2017, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(cucubud @ Feb 13 2017, 12:19 PM) I understand what you meant on not able to get 300Mbps on 2.4Ghz but 100Mbps also cannot get. Inteference from all other devices nearby on 2.4GHz. Use 5GHz and u will see significant improvement as long as there is line of sight or through thin walls.During the testing, I was the only user in the apartment. |
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Feb 13 2017, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(cucubud @ Feb 13 2017, 12:19 PM) I understand what you meant on not able to get 300Mbps on 2.4Ghz but 100Mbps also cannot get. Again, it doesn't have anything to do with how many user is at home, so stop repeating thatDuring the testing, I was the only user in the apartment. You need to check the maximum Wi-Fi speed of your devices Most mobile phones & tablets is limited to 72Mb/s when on 2.4Ghz |
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QUOTE(cucubud @ Feb 13 2017, 12:19 PM) I understand what you meant on not able to get 300Mbps on 2.4Ghz but 100Mbps also cannot get. Mobile phone with single stream wifi n 2.4Ghz you cant reach 100Mbps...tested with Galaxy S6, iphone 6 and iphone 7 plus on unifi 100Mbps(Router Archer C2600 ) and Time 300Mbps(Router RT-AC68U and Archer C2600). Both Unifi and Time only can get 80++Mbps sometime 90++Mbps on 2.4Ghz. But on AC 5Ghz easily to get 300Mbps.During the testing, I was the only user in the apartment. This post has been edited by calvinlaw510: Feb 13 2017, 12:38 PM |
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It's all about hardware limitation, I am using TIME Fibre 500mbps & Asus RT-AC3200.
For 2.4GHz, my phone can get 100mbps (up and down) in average but my old laptop is only able to get max 60mbps (up and down), both tested just beside my router. |
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 13 2017, 12:27 PM) Again, it doesn't have anything to do with how many user is at home, so stop repeating that You need to check the maximum Wi-Fi speed of your devices Most mobile phones & tablets is limited to 72Mb/s when on 2.4Ghz QUOTE(calvinlaw510 @ Feb 13 2017, 12:36 PM) Mobile phone with single stream wifi n 2.4Ghz you cant reach 100Mbps...tested with Galaxy S6, iphone 6 and iphone 7 plus on unifi 100Mbps(Router Archer C2600 ) and Time 300Mbps(Router RT-AC68U and Archer C2600). Both Unifi and Time only can get 80++Mbps sometime 90++Mbps on 2.4Ghz. But on AC 5Ghz easily to get 300Mbps. QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Feb 13 2017, 12:36 PM) It's all about hardware limitation, I am using TIME Fibre 500mbps & Asus RT-AC3200. Thank you for all your inputs.For 2.4GHz, my phone can get 100mbps (up and down) in average but my old laptop is only able to get max 60mbps (up and down), both tested just beside my router. Looks like it is the limitation of the iPhone6S on 2.4Ghz wifi connection. On the iphone 5, eventhough it can detect the 5Ghz SSID and can connect to it, it still has a speed of the 2.4Ghz wifi connection. |
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the 2.4ghz and 5ghz not the problem here, 5ghz support wireless N too the 5ghz support higher bandwidth at shorter distance only, but at last u have to refer to the wifi N and AC and what the picture show i also a theory speed only not real life benchmark usage speed ![]() |
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QUOTE(foohoa @ Feb 13 2017, 12:58 PM) the 2.4ghz and 5ghz not the problem here, 5ghz support wireless N too Thanks for your input.the 5ghz support higher bandwidth at shorter distance only, but at last u have to refer to the wifi N and AC and what the picture show i also a theory speed only not real life benchmark usage speed ![]() |
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QUOTE(cucubud @ Feb 13 2017, 09:51 AM) Last weekend I went to Singapore. that's why anyone who has internet connection 20mbps above needs 5Ghz WiFi AC instead of slow 2.4Ghz NUsing my iPhone 6S Connect to a 2.4Ghz SSID (DLink DIR-868L router) Did a Speedtest and got this result. Then connect to a 5Ghz SSID (on the same router) Did a Speedtest and got this result. How come I can get a faster speed on the 5Ghz connection? 2,4Ghz N only can achieve high speed when signal is above 80%, also why many ppl complaint unifi 30 or above dont have actual package speed especially on wifi tm always give lasap d-link wireless N 2.4Ghz router if internet over 100Mbps, u must have Gigabit LAN over cables or Wifi AC/AD 5Ghz standard * and take note Wireless N also got 5Ghz but doesnt mean it is faster than 2.4Ghz N, same IMO This post has been edited by squall0833: Feb 13 2017, 02:58 PM |
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QUOTE(cucubud @ Feb 13 2017, 12:47 PM) Thank you for all your inputs. yep thats 5Ghz N and it still has same speed of 2.4Ghz N, just different frequency that can prevent being overlapped by other electronic device frequencies /neighbour 2.4 Wifi nearbyLooks like it is the limitation of the iPhone6S on 2.4Ghz wifi connection. On the iphone 5, eventhough it can detect the 5Ghz SSID and can connect to it, it still has a speed of the 2.4Ghz wifi connection. This post has been edited by squall0833: Feb 13 2017, 03:11 PM |
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iphone 5 only support single stream (1x1:1). Iphone 6&7 are dual stream (2x2:2)
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QUOTE(faizrs @ Feb 14 2017, 10:08 PM) iphone 5 only support single stream (1x1:1). Iphone 6&7 are dual stream (2x2:2) Link: https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Broadcom QUOTE(squall0833 @ Feb 13 2017, 02:54 PM) that's why anyone who has internet connection 20mbps above needs 5Ghz WiFi AC instead of slow 2.4Ghz N Thanks. This is good information.2,4Ghz N only can achieve high speed when signal is above 80%, also why many ppl complaint unifi 30 or above dont have actual package speed especially on wifi tm always give lasap d-link wireless N 2.4Ghz router if internet over 100Mbps, u must have Gigabit LAN over cables or Wifi AC/AD 5Ghz standard * and take note Wireless N also got 5Ghz but doesnt mean it is faster than 2.4Ghz N, same IMO |
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QUOTE(cucubud @ Feb 13 2017, 12:47 PM) Thank you for all your inputs. Bear in mind that the wifi standard used for iphone 5 is only standard n, and it does not support MIMO technology. Looks like it is the limitation of the iPhone6S on 2.4Ghz wifi connection. On the iphone 5, eventhough it can detect the 5Ghz SSID and can connect to it, it still has a speed of the 2.4Ghz wifi connection. And also the processor of the phone matters too. If you compare iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c, which share the similar if not same wifi configuration and controller chip, running wifi Speedtest on 5Ghz wifi network on both phones and you will realise iPhone 5s can score slightly better than 5c. |
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QUOTE(Hummingbird @ Feb 27 2017, 10:41 AM) Bear in mind that the wifi standard used for iphone 5 is only standard n, and it does not support MIMO technology. Thanks for the information.And also the processor of the phone matters too. If you compare iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c, which share the similar if not same wifi configuration and controller chip, running wifi Speedtest on 5Ghz wifi network on both phones and you will realise iPhone 5s can score slightly better than 5c. |
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QUOTE(cucubud @ Feb 13 2017, 09:51 AM) Last weekend I went to Singapore. Thats normal... Its like comparing 2 lane highway vs 5lane highway...Using my iPhone 6S Connect to a 2.4Ghz SSID (DLink DIR-868L router) Did a Speedtest and got this result. Then connect to a 5Ghz SSID (on the same router) Did a Speedtest and got this result. How come I can get a faster speed on the 5Ghz connection? For sure wider 5 lane highway u get more chance to drive at higher speed... But 5lane highway also shorter.. so u cannot reach far compared to 2 lane highway that can cover longer distance... This is the easiest example to compare between 2.4ghz wifi and 5ghz wifi bandwidth speed... |
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Wait until you get to try 802.11ad at 60Ghz
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