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post Feb 23 2017, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 23 2017, 10:31 AM)
This is not really a loop hole in the type that when discovered nothing can be done to you (The Trump kind lol). If somehow or someway this was uncovered by either the bank lending your home loan or EPF, then the bank has the right to charge you straight full OPR lending rate for your whole principal outstanding.
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Not like he did not pay to his housing loan.

EPF paid into his bank account then he pay his housing loan using the same bank account.

So how do you differentiate that money is from KWSP or his own savings?


P/S: I did the same thing, just that the EPF money goes into the loan account for regular installment instead of principal repayment and then free up my cash flow for the same purpose, UT.
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post Mar 7 2017, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Mar 7 2017, 08:42 AM)
I guess if time is not valuable to certain someone, he will travel to world everyday to looks for cents biggrin.gif meanwhile I believe most other people actually do have constructive things to do with their spare time. An importer could save money if he decided to travel and pay cash instead of TT to suppliers, but the time he wasted, how much opportunity lost doh.gif
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I couldn't have said it any better.

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post Mar 9 2017, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Mar 8 2017, 04:16 PM)
Maybe I did not make my sentence clearer...
What i meant was the initial tax relief you got when amortised (new word to me) over a long period of time, the advantage is probably not going to worth it for all the hassle of PRS..
E.g. you get 20% tax rebate from the PRS, and you still have 20 years before you can withdraw this money. This works out to roughly 1% p.a. which means  whatever your PRS return was that year, you add 1% return to it.
So this versus you put this money into FSM or whatever and actively manage it whereby you are free to choose between hundreds of UT products and you are free to withdraw all during a freefall..

Hope you get the gist of what I am trying to say, I aint well-versed in economic terms.. I am not disputing the power of compound interest or UT in general

My point is there are pros and cons and probably more cons than what ppl thought.
E.g. If we have a retiree-gonna-be, then this PRS income tax relief is a no brainer, since he is going to get his money back within a few years
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Why we should pay more taxes when there's a way to saved it? rclxub.gif

In short term you have extra rm600 cash.

In a longer term you have another 3k for retirement.

This post has been edited by rapple: Mar 9 2017, 08:38 AM
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post Mar 20 2017, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(Nemozai @ Mar 20 2017, 08:24 PM)
Regarding FSM website, those who purchased PRS from FSM do you guys get PPA number? Can check from My Investments >> Update Account >> Account Details. On the next page, you may click on EPF/PRS account to view the number.

Mine still empty  hmm.gif
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You will receive a letter from PPA.


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post Sep 12 2017, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 12 2017, 11:03 AM)
Libra Asnita Bond Fund - sudden drop due to Dividend of RM0.025 per unit....this includes 25% income tax?

If no, then its really a pain in the ass.
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I don't understand your question.

Distribution has no impact on your unit trust value.

Distribution is given from earnings which has already been tax. It's not like they tax the distribution again.

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post Sep 12 2017, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 12 2017, 11:25 AM)
Hence my question, do we get taxed on income distribution? In my experience some unit trust distribution, the holder will be pre taxed 25%. This in some way does dilute the value no? Meaning every RM1 distribution that was announced, RM0.25 was already paid to LHDN beforehand.

Please enlighten a noob.
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What you mention above is before Single Tier System is in effect.

No further tax deduction.

Distribution given is a net amount.

Example: RM0.0025 x 100 unit = RM2.50



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post Sep 19 2017, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Sep 19 2017, 02:00 PM)
it is appropriate to you when you are talking like a complete baffoon to someone who is working just you and me and everyone else and mind you distribution comes from fund houses not fsm. you wanna pick a fight over this go sound thr fund houses and fund manager. not a fsm staff who's there to help clients like us.

also you say that you need to do proper accounting and it cannot be done when distribution isnt available. lemme get it copy and paste for you since you are lazy to educate yourself.
not defending fsm without reason. maybe you don't handle service line but I do and I dealt with unreasonable customers that are rude to my staffs. no doubt I have trained them to be at their best but it's no fault of theirs when the situation was not caused by them in the first place. So far I have dealt with fsm for a long time and never have i needed to interact with them since its a diy platform. if you want premium service then head to ocbc and apply for  preferred status. pfft I doubt even if he can get distribution if he was in ocbc unit trust.

don't go giving a valid argument to support a guy who doesn't even know distribution means nothing and allow him to be rude to a fellow human being.
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It does affect the said fund value if the distribution units are not in.



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post Sep 19 2017, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Sep 19 2017, 02:19 PM)
how so? distribution not in and distribution in doesn't do much to the NAV. maybe I'm over looking things but maybe you can explain it to me because what effects the find value is the underlying assets, investment and currency.
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When a fund do a distribution, fund prices go down.

Your fund value remain the same if only the distribution units it's in. If is not, your IRR/ROI will be incorrect.

I eventually did my own calculation for the distribution units while waiting for them to actually distribute the units.
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post Nov 8 2017, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(mephyll @ Nov 8 2017, 02:27 PM)
Fresh here

Cant take the actual loss of -2.03%, i decided to give up Interpac Dana Safi....(cooling off period still)..
Admit... no dare take the loss too much yet.
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It's your loss included the 1.75% service charge?


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post Nov 9 2017, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(besiegetank @ Nov 9 2017, 08:29 AM)
Hopefully in future FSM can allow us to buy their managed portfolio using EPF. That can be a good move.
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It should be the other way round.

EPF should allowed it.
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post Nov 15 2017, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(Jitty @ Nov 15 2017, 04:27 PM)
alright.. then i will just wait for tmr NAV price baru decide to buy or not buy.

Any idea what time the latest NAV price updated daily?

Each UT have different NAV update time??

Thanks.
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Bro, forward pricing la

Tomorrow NAV will be today closing.

You buy tomorrow you get tomorrow closing which will be available on Friday noon / evening.
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post Nov 17 2017, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 17 2017, 03:12 PM)
lol same when you liquidate your stocks and get a hot EQ fund lah this time you paid someone else to do it for you.

for me I treat my entire investment as a portfolio

currently

70% is UT
30% is Stocks

haven't calculate my ultimate emergency reserve which is my property which stands at 700k the lowest to 800k the most st cost price of 500k

meaning if I lose some money in UT or stocks is just 0.5%? so why panic
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One shouldn’t take property as the emergency fund as it takes time to liquidate.
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post Mar 9 2018, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Cactus89 @ Mar 9 2018, 02:54 PM)
If u checked their factsheet the reported MoM lost is merely -0.5% for February. They calculation is very misleading. My managed  moderate aggresive recorded -2% ..
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pretty sure theirs is not inclusive of any service charge or fees charge towards your port.
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post Mar 10 2018, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(i1899 @ Mar 9 2018, 04:44 PM)
i am not understand what u were trying to clarrify?

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The -0.9% is 1 month ROI intable above.
Everyone knows 1M ROI is respect to previous month (31 Jan), not to the original portfolio value.
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That statement is dated 8th March.

The "1 month" is referring to Feb 2018.

calm down and re-calculate see if is still wrong

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post Mar 13 2018, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Feliex @ Mar 13 2018, 11:03 AM)
So What?! At Least we have brighter future rather than the pocket yang selalu bocor!
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That's "IF" they can walk the talk.

But I doubt they will be any different to the current government.

If there is ONE that doesn't bring up race and religion, and treat all of us equal as Malaysian then there is hope for Malaysia.




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post Mar 16 2018, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(virgoguy @ Mar 16 2018, 11:42 AM)
where can I download the PRS statement for tax relief 2017?
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Your fund house should have sent you the tax relief statement.

PPA statement is not a tax relief statement and is merely a statement showing your total units in account A & B and value as at 31st Dec.
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post Mar 20 2018, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(kenny79 @ Mar 20 2018, 01:34 PM)
Did u know what is unlimited money sir.  Mean when u full port is 1000 u are able to top up more the. 1000 in once time.  Same theory as blackjack.. last rm10 next bet will be rm20. Third round is rm40
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No one can have infinite amount of money unless you can print the money yourself.

Everyone has a net worth of $.


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post Mar 21 2018, 12:58 PM

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After you lock in the profit to another fund do you put it as a cost in the new fund?
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post Mar 28 2018, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(la_Feng @ Mar 28 2018, 04:07 PM)
hi guys, i am new so please bear with me.
i bought a PRS fund on 13thFeb at NAV 0.6389
the latest NAV as of 26thMar is 0.644

but based on the statement of my holding, it was shown profit of -0.27%
why is that so when the NAV has increased?

my holding
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latest NAV
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Because there's a cost of RM10.60 to open the PRS account.

So you are only buying with RM989.40 instead of RM1,000.
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post Apr 3 2018, 07:47 AM

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Just did my DCA for April.

Instead of having them to do it every 15th I’ll do it myself every month.

Can’t be buying every dip, so might as well just DCA / VCA.

Cheers

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