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 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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post May 11 2017, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ May 12 2017, 08:16 PM)
Update before May RSP tongue.gif

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That's one heck of a portfolio. Only 1 fund is performing negatively.

Congrats
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post May 14 2017, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 13 2017, 11:58 PM)
hmm.gif how to interpret the market valuation table?
hope this can helps....

Valuations
The market weighted price-earnings ratio (PE) or ‘market valuations’ as we commonly address it, is a measurement of how ‘expensive’ or ‘cheap’ a market is at a particular point of time. The information on market valuations is easily available on our fundsupermart website.

So how is the price-earnings ratio calculated? The price-earnings ratio is the current price of the market divided by the expected earnings per share for the market.
Expected earnings are calculated on a weighted average basis ( companies with a higher market capitalization will have a higher ‘weight’ in the calculation of expected earnings).

It is relatively straightforward to compare valuations. A market with a high PE is considered ‘expensive’ and a market with a low PE is considered ‘cheap’.
However, bear in mind that this valuation measurement is used on a relative basis. Valuations can be compared across markets, or compared within the same market on a historical basis.

In the case of profit taking, comparing with historical valuations is more relevant, as it is a better gauge as to whether the market is overvalued or not.

In other words, if the PE for market A is 25 times, on an absolute basis you cannot tell whether it is expensive or cheap.
However, if a comparison is made vis-à-vis other regions and we find that valuations of other regions range from 30 times to 40 times, the valuation for this market is relatively attractive.

But for the purpose of deciding whether or not to take profits, we can compare current valuations to the historical range of valuations. If historical valuations range from 10-15 times, we can say that market A is ‘currently trading at a relatively high PE in comparison to the historical range’. In such a situation, investors should consider taking profits.

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/resea...?articleNo=1783

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/resea...l?articleNo=606

Determining equity market’s attractiveness
https://www.themalaysianreserve.com/new/sto...-attractiveness
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That's a really good explanation.

Though all these explanations and post from you in this thread makes me wonder if you're a key personnel of FSM ? brows.gif icon_idea.gif
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post May 15 2017, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ May 15 2017, 02:23 PM)
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The above is not what I am thinking....

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After thinking for a while and recollecting , this is what I am trying to elucidate :

For the sake of argument , Let us assume company XYZ Sdn Bhd has a MYR 1M facility with Bank ABC Bhd. The total annual interest paid to the bank by company is let's say MYR 100K . Normally the MYR 100K interest can be deemed as a legitimate company expenses and expensed out from company Profit & Loss statement , thus reducing chargeable income .

Now, let us assume Company XYZ Sdn Bhd participate MYR 300K in FSM unit trust , then the interest expense becomes 1 -  (300 / 1000 )  x 100K = MYR 70K effective expense instead of MYR 100K. Thereby the expenses deductible becomes MYR 70K instead of MYR 100K , which means the chargeable income becomes more.

I recall that the rationale for such a calculation is that LHDN follows the principle of " wholly and solely for the production of the business income " to recognize any deductible expenses.

When one deviates from that principle , then LHDN can and will discount out by proportion the portion that is not deemed to be related to the core - business.

I hope I am right . I am not a tax agent , but having been part of company upper management for a long time , I am sensitive to such material fact .

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post May 15 2017, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 15 2017, 03:21 PM)
now why would you calculate like that?

10,000x6.5%= 650

10,000x1.75%=175

that 650 better come with a hot bank chic.
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dont have to waste 650 to just meet a hot rm lol.


Just walk into and say that you want to open a Preferred Banking Account with CIMB and they would run towards you sweat.gif

Key words here is that you dont have to actually open one but just express a certain degree of interest sweat.gif
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post May 25 2017, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 25 2017, 11:09 AM)
Because like stock price movements, buy on rumours, sell on facts.  devil.gif
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But how does one know if its a rumour ? Maybe the rumour was a fact ?

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post May 31 2017, 11:01 PM

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Would be rebalancing/modifying my aunt's and my portfolio and hoping that my new portfolio delivers exceptional returns for the balance 2nd half of 2017 sweat.gif


If not, i would start ranting that FSM cheated me bangwall.gif bangwall.gif mad.gif Joking.


But yeah, hoping my new portfolio would deliver returns!




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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 31 2017, 11:08 PM)
will you be shifting to zuxen's version 4 port recommendation?
if not, what are your current portfolio and allocation like?
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I just started selling off/reducing a few funds and haven't completed buying what i wanted. Would get my new portfolio up by next Friday and then i shall post my before and after portfolio.


Would take Xuzen's recommendation into consideration.

Btw, I'm getting into KGF, was just wondering that if I'm just only able to invest in one; either KGF or KGF PRS (Just to get the 1k incentive, but the downside is that i can't take my cash out till i reach 55), which would be a better choice ?

I do understand that KGF's PRS is a combination of KGF 60%+ and Kenanga's Bond Fund 30%.
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jun 1 2017, 08:51 AM)
What did u buy exactly? If you read what the fund managers write recently, most of them would conclude Q1 was really good and they don't expect the rest of the year would deliver anything close to that

You need to consider if your fund choices and allocation matches your risk appetite. It sounded to me that you have rather unrealistic expectations. UT is not ponzi scheme, it would not deliver consistent superior returns; it's designed to deliver reasonable returns over mid-long term with minimal effort required from the investor
I think that iportfolio site died....
Use FSM's portfolio simulation function lor; but xuzen already indicated past returns and weighted volatility
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Just wasn't happy with my portfolio earlier because i didn't have the capital to get into more funds. Now that i have some spare cash, i could play around with my portfolio and diversity more.
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post Jun 20 2017, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 20 2017, 11:10 PM)
1) ASx is a total ballgame altogether. you can ask dasecret

2) the Goverment will never let amanah saham fail. it being pro bumiputera
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That's the reason I treat my ASX as a bond fund and never bothered investing in any pure bond funds on FSM
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post Jun 21 2017, 12:08 AM

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Here is my new portfolio:

1 KGF
2. Manulife US Equity Funds
3. RHB Gold and General Fund
3. CIMB Australian Equity Fund
4. Affin Hwang Select Dividend Fund


*Woud be buying CIMB Asia Pacific Dynamic Income next month when my pay cheque comes in



Feel free to comment on my portfolio

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QUOTE(2387581 @ Jun 21 2017, 12:20 AM)
very roller-coaster by the means of what most LYN members advocates  rclxms.gif
all new buy/switch or some from previous?
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A few of the funds like Manulife US equity, CIMB Australian Fund and RHB's Gold and General fund were from my previous portfolio.


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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 21 2017, 05:51 AM)
At what % of allocation each?

What is the ratio of tis UTs portfolio in relation to your ASX investment?
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The value of my ASX is approximately 2.5 times the value of my FSM portfolio. I know that seems a lot but that's where all my savings goes ever since I just started working

QUOTE(iampokemon @ Jun 21 2017, 11:40 AM)
Maybe you can consider Amconversative instead of the CIMB Australian Fund  , Gold and General fund. Looks like these 2 are on declining trend already based on the chart.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Just decided to allocate a small percentage of my funds into Gold. Pretty positive that Trump is going to screw up something and that Gold should go up sweat.gif
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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 21 2017, 07:16 PM)
rclxms.gif wow....that is  thumbup.gif
with so high "FI" vs EQ ratio.....
you can afford to go more on commandoes type of EQ funds.....
not many people can afford this strategy... notworthy.gif
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Nah, as i said, I'm just trying to maximize my savings with ASX to get that 6%thingy.

QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 21 2017, 07:26 PM)
Care to share your average return for the ASX ?
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Both of my ASX accounts garners around 6% on average. Pretty good right ?
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QUOTE(Nemozai @ Jun 22 2017, 08:48 AM)
What is ASX, I can't find. I only know ASB, ASB 2, ASW2020, ASM, but what is ASX?
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ASX is an acronym for ASB, ASB2, AS1M etc
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 21 2017, 09:06 PM)
hmm.gif read post# 5751, page 288?
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Yup, read it
QUOTE(aoisky @ Jun 21 2017, 11:40 PM)
Only 6% on average ?, should be around 7% ++
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ASB does provide a higher return of approximately 8% including their bones dividend
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https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...-2017-2018-8525


Anyone attending this ? Just got an email from FSM
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QUOTE(MNet @ Jul 16 2017, 08:07 PM)
just imagine now u every month pump in 1k

1 yr u can collect 12k.

let say during crisis, u pump in 12k will be yield better compare with u pump in now
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I beg to differ bro.

Most investors loose tons of "potential return" by just waiting to pump in during the next crisis.

Are you able to predict exactly when the next crisis would be and when stock prices would be bottom low ?
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QUOTE(cocbum4 @ Jul 19 2017, 04:58 PM)
Financial is a game of waiting which required a lot of patient.
Some pipu like jew are just impatient to see the quick profit, it is best to put the money into ut.
Unlike Ayam has plenty of time to carefully wait and select a good vehicle.
Basically Ayam do not need anymore money to sustain a life
Ayam just treat financial game as a hobby
Ayam has a color portfolio that generate a lot of dividend income why should Ayam worry now? And yes Ayam also keep old cash which is better than keep in bank or ut
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Investing and Financial Games are 2 different things. Financial Games are usually associated with "Get Rich Schemes"
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QUOTE(cocbum4 @ Jul 19 2017, 06:08 PM)
This should be what money game founder or some ut agent will tell me about their plan.
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