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post Jul 22 2017, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(cocbum4 @ Jul 22 2017, 12:04 AM)
All the ut guy cannot accept failure in the plan, they are the fool that fool the rest of the world. Why should Ayam want to get fooled by their setori from a fool that follow the fool step
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Donno what chiken story is this. Very out of topic. Not something we bother.
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post Jul 22 2017, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 21 2017, 08:47 PM)
White cat or black cat, does it really matter, as long as she can catch the rat?

Come all, come all, this is another good month. UTF all naik naik naik. Even the Selina Reits also naik wor, Ramjade, catching up on Manureits liao.... bruce.gif

For those of you gaiz and gurls who kept pumping in monneh in early July, I know you will be very very happy!  rclxms.gif

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Agreed. We all make money. And we are align at least that msia equity has one more leg to go in tandem with election.

So why does crystal ball or kungfu cat style matter? As long as it works and we are going to be happy with the result.
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post Jul 22 2017, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(cocbum4 @ Jul 21 2017, 11:18 PM)
I FINALLY had to reset my always-hanging Asus laptop as it hung during the initialization stage and couldn't do the usual Auto Repair & Auto Restore too
- but lost my 2013 Home Office and many favourite files/apps as it only saved SOME and NOT ALL my files ...sighsssss 

Q: How to get FREE Office to see my old Word Docs or Excel stuff or to type future docs etc ?
HELP ....
As a bankrupt I don't own any CCs or ATM Card that can do online transactions anymore, so CAN'T do any Online Purchases etc .....sighs not even for Free Trial stuff (still need a CC for the SignUp even if free trial etc).....
Anyway what I want to say to TS is

You are SO much luckier and better off than me

1. You STILL have a very reasonably-paying PME Job & younger
2. You are on the DRS for your unsecured loans - so only a matter of TIME before all your debts are cleared here - so CHEER UP !
3. GOOD Relationships are great to have - but you should learn to Be Happy with yourself and love your own company too ... I have had a great almost 30-year relationship but am happily single again since the amicable break-up 8 years back

This TEMPORARY "hard life" is NOT forever - so buck up ! 

Some clarification sought from you :
1. Are you 3rd-party barred by CCS from entering RWS and MBS due to the DRS ?
2. Are you paying the banks a much reduced 5% pa interest on the DRS ?

WHY I say I am worse off than you even tho' there are similarities in our stories - of also racking up a hefty 200k unsecured debt from BOTH CCs=Credit Cards and Credit Loans and also Trading Calamities .....

1. I am much OLDER than you in my very very late 50s and virtually ZERO HOPE of ever securing any PME Job - even much lower 3-4k pay is impossible with my bankrupt status I feel
AGEISM exists esp in the CS/Gov-linked and top PME jobs
Now got glut in law too (and also medicine if you aren't a specialist - need to compete with cheaper younger FTs in polyclinics etc)

2. My previous PME Conveyancer position always kena retrenchment whenever the property market is bad - have been retrenched TWICE

1st Retrenchment in the 2000s when I stayed jobless for 5+years
(2004-early 2009) 
I largely enjoyed myself then with LOTS of travelling with the rich ex bf paying for lots of my travelling expenses whether travelling with/without him
I also had a modest freelance easy job - via fax from home + more savings

During the Tail-end of those 5 years, I got myself into Warrant Trading on Volume (profit on mere 1-2 cent movement as recommended by a friend)
Initially made quite good profits until that fateful morning in 2007 (?)
I had already got 7k paper profit but didn't sell before going out for a lunch appointment in Orchard with some ex-colleagues - remember it rained heavily
US Sub-Prime Crisis ... should have sold off IMMEDIATELY to cut profit/loss but stupidly didn't
----> eventually from Manageable to Unmanageable Losses of think still-below 100k region
Broking House gave me some time to pay up gradually but finally threatened bankruptcy - I staved off this threat by borrowing small loans from several friends (as was not able to sell an inherited asset at the price we wanted until much later)
That was my very 1st Trading Calamity !

And after my 2nd Retrenchment in 2014
That same trading friend urged me into CFD Trading as my means of survival or generating replacement PME job income to service my high unsecured debts to the banks
I was lured into taking up so many credit cards and loans from mid 2009 to 2014 & led a very YOLO lifestyle etc .....
I did generally well with the Dow Jones Index (esp during last Aug free fall) but got played out badly by the STI and HSI/Shanghai Index (too leveraged)
Ended up with Margin Calls which virtually wiped out my CFD Trading Capital

To avoid the HUGE Stress of finding funds to pay the banks promptly EVERY Month, after weighing the Pros & Cons decided on the last resort of filing for my own bankruptcy last year !
Imagine the PEACE OF MIND and huge load off my shoulders
- no more worrying over where to find the $$ to pay the banks each & every month
- nor my morbid fears of the family being harassed by debt collectors or with WSS threats/hassles etc
Since I was jobless and my total debts exceeded the DRS 100k limit, DRS was not a possibility nor available to me
So bankruptcy seemed like a Sensible Option in MY set of circumstances
(Basically just waiting till 65 to live on cpf payouts - if possible still hope to get reasonable suitable part-time non-PME job for my pocket money & to pay off Target Sum 27k [which is like mere 10-14% of my total debt 200k region] to the OA at the end of 5 years to get bankruptcy discharged ....
of course BEST if tio big toto windfall  )
My Bankruptcy = Consequence of 2nd Retrenchment cum Trading Calamity !
3. Being Single again

I am happy with my own company altho' I do meet-up with my friends frequently to catch up with each other (have both married & single friends)

I would say I'm again in INVOLUNTARY Retirement [from retrenchment] - as already Age 55 WAS the ORIGINAL Official Retirement Age
(Can say I have enjoyed Early Retirement for 5+ years earlier in my 40s too)

We must always try to find the Silver Linings in life
Be Optimistic !
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You are very lucky. U took unsecured loans, and swipe your credit cards, enjoy life. And then just declare bankruptcy. It is the banks that foot for your bill and enjoyment that is in BAD LUCK because they can't collect back from you what you have STOLEN and TOOK from them. How could you say you are in a sad situation?

Rule No.1 No credit card debts, clear all balances every month.

Rule No.2 Never take personal loan/unsecured loans to invest

Did I mention leveraging to invest? Yes, I did it. But I never took unsecured loans or personal loan at interest rate 8% or more (effective rate). Please learn the difference between term loan rates and flat rates before asking more questions. Said again and again, knowledge is power. Must know the subject matter, if wanna leverage, make sure u know your options very well. Get pro advice.

Stop coming to the wrong forum and cry wolf about UT people or not.

You are what you are for your own doing. Not anyone else fault but yourself.


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post Jul 22 2017, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(cocbum4 @ Jul 22 2017, 12:35 AM)
Ut guy basically has zero idea about what is the effective rate the last time and the rate today yet they are readily to put the blame on the rest of the fool when thing went fooled by their foolishness. Why should Ayam take their fool and get another fool?
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RIP English. Singaporeans biggrin.gif
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post Jul 26 2017, 02:55 PM

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I have sold interpac.
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post Jul 26 2017, 07:49 PM

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Sold becuz i forsee a short term correction (hopefully i am wrong)

And also to consolidate my profit.

Taking two weeks to observe the market.

Not too rush in making decision.

Will go back in the market in Mid August.

My new portfolio is projected To have 7 funds.

Focus area, malaysia, china, india, asia ex japan.

Hopeful to yield >20% in 17/18 period.

The HahaCat #kungfucat #mostattackedcatinlowyat




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post Jul 27 2017, 10:14 PM

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good month. Now took profit. Will observe a while n re-deploy funds to capture 2nd half opportunities!
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post Jul 28 2017, 09:47 AM

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Sold interpac safi & dinamik on 26. On 27/7, safi fundsize dropped from 19++M to 18++M. Will interpac cont to drop? A time of test.
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post Jul 28 2017, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(Zero Correlation @ Jul 28 2017, 01:50 PM)
Why not play bitcoin and crypto currencies? That one definitely won't leave sex to old age.... in fact it's multiple times per day  thumbup.gif
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Why do u assume others don't already have crypto currency? And this is a Unit trust fsm forum. So we discuss unit trust here. There are ppl here say they make 200% in stocks. And that is more suitable to discuss at the stock forum.
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post Jul 28 2017, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(Zero Correlation @ Jul 28 2017, 02:48 PM)
No mah, just trying to help you make more $$. Unit trust for speculation far less rewarding than stocks, options and commodities or exotic instruments. Would love to see you on those threads showing screenshots of big investments too  brows.gif
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If I need your help to make more money, I'd still be poor by now. Please show some competency in the subject matter of what you want to discuss.

For sure interpac is on down trend since i sold and it has registered 4 downs and 1 up day this whole week.

I don't believe in trading using unit trust. I do believe in rebalancing bi-annually to make sure ur money is deployed in the market that has most value.
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post Jul 28 2017, 11:21 PM

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Agree with puchongnite. What is algozen anyway. Is it one of those sheet u key in historical data and try to predict a trend? Not a holistic way to assess a fund if that it is based on historical performance. Unlesd it take into account of fundsize, manager, underlying stocks, macroeconomy, then it is really a good ball.
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post Jul 29 2017, 02:23 PM

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Is there a diff between a person who invested in unit trust successfully and made 14% per anum yoy and a person who is successful in making a lot of money?

Scenario 1: Mr AV put Rm1K a month into fund A for 10 years. It grew 14% p.a annualized. He made Rm249K. Enough to buy a Toyota Camry Rm150K and rennovate his home 70K and go for a good holiday to Europe Rm29K.

Scenario 2: Mr KC knows if he invest in fund A. He can make an annualized 14% per annum yoy. He is confident. He refinanced his house, top up, to get RM250K. He has to pay interest of 4.5% (Term Loan Reducing Balance) The loan tenure is 30 years. Every month he has to pay Rm937 instalment. He put RM250K into fund A, same as Mr. AV. 10 years later at 14% p.a, he will have RM926K in his portfolio.

Beyond this 10 years, there are 20 more years to go before this two young men retire. Who is a more successful unit trust investor? At 14% pa, maybe both also successful. But who made more money and became a more successful investor?

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post Jul 29 2017, 03:44 PM

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After time and time again, Xuzen, you are telling me you can't at least secure a 14% p.a annualized given a 10 year window? Then might as well quit investing altogether. Waste what time do wat vitagen algozen

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post Jul 29 2017, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 29 2017, 03:46 PM)
Can you? Mr One-hit-wonder!



Will you be remembered as Mr McFerrin? Only one hit song in his entire singing career?

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I can. And I have done scenario no.2. And I have been able to survive quite well this far. I even managed to make enough to settle 50% of a 35 year loan in the first year alone. So I am not talk cock only. And given our age diff, don't tell me u hav not acheived 14% p.a since u were in the game? Or at least, the last 3 years????
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post Jul 30 2017, 11:38 AM

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Kungfu Cat allocation 17/18

Interpac safi
Interpac Dinamik
KAF Tactical
CIMB Greater China
Manulife Dragon
Manulife India
CIMB Asia Pac

% of allocation. Evenly divided is fine.

Allocation for reference only. Please do not follow as I am the most attacked cat in lowyat. Many disagree and attack kao kao. Leaving this here to see end 2018 am I just bluff or with substance. Let time tell. Whoever feels he is the de facto admin can keep score. Feels like everyone here including 'sifu' like to talk shit. Best way is just put out our fund recommendations and let public be the judge year on year our credibility.

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post Jul 30 2017, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 30 2017, 11:42 AM)
hmm.gif with the variance of % allocated...so will the result......
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Already edited to evenly divided. How many pros here who like to give all the theories and arguments. Please put your foot down and show your portfolio recommendations. Or else just talk cock. I have revealed portfolio, i also had shown at least one fund allocation and how much i put in previously. Already show a lot of transparency compared to this sifu that said made 200% or that sifu that said 20 years experience and that sifu who claim to be value investor etc. All talk but where is substance? Let's have healthy competition here. Next year see who are the best

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post Jul 30 2017, 06:31 PM

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When challenged, even in house sifu long time resident admit they are just here to talk cock. This is the quality of this forum. Oh well. I got no business here then.
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post Jul 31 2017, 12:53 PM

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When i share my experience n style. Many attack and say its wrong, and may mislead others.

So i challenge the sifu to recommend a portfolio and see how it performs over 1 year period.

And they say oh, why so serious, juz fk off, we r here to talk cock only.

Wow.
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post Jul 31 2017, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jul 31 2017, 01:16 PM)
for a new account holder and for one who have reached financial freedom, you seem to be full of yourself. oh well players like you come and go in this thread. you remind me of a bag pipe. lots of sound and full of shit
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At least it's a bagpipe tats richer than u.
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post Jul 31 2017, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jul 31 2017, 06:59 PM)
just a note to newbies lurking around....
please know what is happening or going on before you blindly follow......

As markets are constantly in a state of flux with opportunities and risks rising and falling, investors need to be ready to make the necessary adjustments to their portfolios to ensure they are positioned appropriately for the future.
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I am just reading in between the lines. But this fren seems to be disagreeing with algozen

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