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Careful what you wish for. Another pandemic will crash the whole economyFundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D
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Mar 5 2021, 08:44 PM
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Mar 6 2021, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(ganesh1696 @ Mar 6 2021, 11:48 AM) ![]() My god all my profits got wiped off in less than a month USA & CHINA funds were the reason and the worst markets for past 2 weeks. On fridays all funds bleed. Did the all stocks/etf's reach bottom or is there still room for them to worsen? I couldn't predict anything. Most important is after paying, you really learn something to get that fees worth. Can't say you were not warned. This post has been edited by killdavid: Mar 6 2021, 04:47 PM |
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Mar 7 2021, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(diversity @ Mar 7 2021, 11:51 AM) My china funds from profit 800 to now slight loss over the last 2 weeks despite averaging down several times Fast hands? Are you trading mutual funds?Really crazy and learning lesson to me, should've been fast hands like stock market |
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Mar 8 2021, 03:49 PM
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Wow another bad day for China tech sector.
Topped up Dinasti small amount. don't know how long this will last. |
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Mar 8 2021, 05:54 PM
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You know, during FSM webinar quite a few fund managers sing the same tune, china valuation is cheap, If it is cheap then why is it going through a correction?
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Mar 8 2021, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 8 2021, 05:57 PM) valuation and sentiments are different things... Or we can just call a spade a spade.what is high can still go higher, what is low can still go lower. how much the markets had been up since 10 months ago?... is the market still higher 6 months ago? The FMs were just wrong. On purpose or accidentally that's open to interpretation. |
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Mar 9 2021, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Mar 9 2021, 11:08 AM) This may sound cliche during the bad times, but it can't be truer. Agree with what you said but on the bolded part, think twice.Right now is just a simple speed bump in March. Time for those who want to get down the bus (but need to pay the bus driver / bus fare regardless) or if you want to stay please fasten your seat belt and enjoy the ride. My best advise is close your app, or browser, spend some time with your kids and family. And speaking to a few of my guru frens (not that they are always right) the time to be greedy if you still have bullet is not yet now. Maybe another 10% down. I did just that during the pandemic and lockdown in March-April ....treasure family time, life is short t, bla bla ...and sailed past the best time to be greedy Keep informed but exercise patience and don't be emotional LoTek liked this post
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Mar 9 2021, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(ganesh1696 @ Mar 9 2021, 01:38 PM) Hey man, some of us have been in this situation.You just have to hang in there, you sell now you will consolidate the loss into real lost.On the positive side, those companies are not doing badly. They are well and expanding ....we are just dealing with market rotation and sentiment. It will recover. LoTek, ahmadkhairil, and 2 others liked this post
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Mar 9 2021, 10:46 PM
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Do not despair. Tech stocks shooting up now. We have hit support levels This post has been edited by killdavid: Mar 9 2021, 10:47 PM WhitE LighteR and eenong89 liked this post
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Mar 9 2021, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(amateurinvestor @ Mar 9 2021, 10:54 PM) From investopediaSupport is a price level where a downtrend can be expected to pause due to a concentration of demand or buying interest. As the price of assets or securities drops, demand for the shares increases, thus forming the support line. Meanwhile, resistance zones arise due to selling interest when prices have increased. Support in short is the market consensus when the downtrend has reached attractive level to buy. Resistance is the opposite amateurinvestor liked this post
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Mar 9 2021, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(eenong89 @ Mar 9 2021, 10:55 PM) It is really shooting up.It is all algorithm driven, I tell you LoTek, WhitE LighteR, and 1 other liked this post
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Mar 9 2021, 11:20 PM
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Mar 9 2021, 11:48 PM
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Mar 10 2021, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(amateurinvestor @ Mar 10 2021, 05:55 PM) hmmm unfortunately china hasnt really recovered or showed any signs of great rebound from the lows. my china equities all around negative 10 percent now. wonder how long before it can recover Don't tell me you invested lump sum...P/S: I just started investing in UT two months ago - put in china and tech lol - what a lesson hahaha Well news are saying futures seem to be inching upwards. Lets hope for another good night. This post has been edited by killdavid: Mar 10 2021, 06:00 PM |
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Mar 10 2021, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(LoTek @ Mar 10 2021, 06:33 PM) I personally have great faith in the overall future of china. Warning: the current level is just around Dec/Jan prices, which is still comfortably above pre-covid. No serious investor would bet against china.But the informed investor takes a look at fundementals vs sentiment before deciding when to invest. |
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Mar 10 2021, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 10 2021, 08:07 PM) i guess they looked "at fundementals vs sentiment before deciding when to invest" too for as at 28 Feb 2021,...(that is 10 days at the start of the rout) yet, they are still HEAVY in China.... both are unconstrained funds YET they are still >40% in China. Also it's not easy for the houses to dispose their holdings in short notice. There was a video explaining this in youtube ... What is your view on this fund? This post has been edited by killdavid: Mar 10 2021, 08:21 PM |
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Mar 10 2021, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 10 2021, 08:28 PM) It is a fund that if you trust the skill of the fund mgr and the compiled investment data n risk analysis of that fund house,.. Then just put min 100k inside and let the fund mgr do the rest. That is the general message but if you really want to be in control, you can put in more effort. True life example. I trust Cathy Wood. If I would have given her my lump sum in Jan, my blood pressure will shoot up now. Not good for my account and health.The fund does not hv mandates so it can invest in almost anythings or anywhere.... The FM will be eager to hit certain target... For anything above a threshold, the FH will get 20% I'm still gonna give her more of my money but on my own terms and when I feel the time is right. |
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Mar 12 2021, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(yycclin @ Mar 12 2021, 07:06 PM) This is my 1st encounter of market correction after DIY investing UT since last year June, it is really a test of emotion, patience, panic, etc while going thru the coaster roller ride. Tonight US high chance red.Hope the market is recovery soon for all bros sis here.. |
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Mar 13 2021, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Mar 13 2021, 09:43 AM) Fsm or eunittrust or Philip mutual is the place for low sales charge. If you go direct ie retail they will assign you an agent to take care of you, drive car to meet you and bring paper forms for you to sign. All this requires money and salary. They will also give you advise from time to time, some which may be good, some which may be weirdly bad. ...as soon to support purchase of local securitiesIf you do the online way of diy, you bypass that and you save. It’s around <2% one off diy, vs up to 5.5% retail one off. Every year the fund manager needs his salary too, so they charge you around 1 to 2% management fee. This includes trustee fee which is an independent auditor service kind of thing, to make sure your shares are there. This one can’t be saved. Fsm yes has option to buy from many fund houses at the same time. It also allows you to more easily switch from one fund to another (fees apply). Fsm is the most expensive one but they are the fanciest, most responsive and most user friendly. |
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Mar 26 2021, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 26 2021, 09:08 AM) You miss Trump or not ? Have things changed with Mr Nice Guy Biden ? China tech giants dive as delisting threat joins crackdown fears Tech giants from Tencent Holdings Ltd to Alibaba Group Holding Ltd dived after US regulators revived threats to toss China’s largest corporations off US bourses, compounding concerns of a widening domestic antitrust crackdown. Alibaba slid almost 4% in Hong Kong Thursday, joining a US selloff that wiped at least 20% off Chinese tech names including Tencent Music Entertainment and iQiyi Inc, Baidu Inc’s Netflix-like streaming subsidiary. The Hang Seng Technology Index slid to its lowest since November before ending down just 1.2%. |
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