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post Feb 20 2017, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(2387581 @ Feb 20 2017, 07:10 PM)
oops. I didn't know that, probably because my investment is too ikan bilis I didn't bother to read the platform fee structure. For RM1000 at 0.05% it is RM0.50 per quarter. Let's take into consideration of the appreciation in value, so one year you might be paying RM3 for platform fee (no basis assumption). 2% sales charge of RM1000 is already RM20, which is about 4-5 years worth of platform fee. Correct me if my scenario here is not making sense.
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Same as what I'm thinking. How many yrs the platform fee before equals 2%. In the end penny wise pound foolish.
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post Feb 20 2017, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(Steven7 @ Feb 20 2017, 07:15 PM)
Okay sure..gonna do more research before finalizing the %. BTW in fact I am working in SG now, do you think I should go for FSM SG instead of stick with FSM MY since the funds offered are different.
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TAke best of both.
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post Feb 20 2017, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 20 2017, 07:27 PM)
See reasons above. Btw I think if we want to discuss SG UT, let's head to FSM SG thread.

FSM SG 0.1%/quarter platform fees
POEMS SG 0% SC, 0% platform fees, 0% switching fees

Why should I pay FSM MY if the funds they offer are not as good as their SG counterpart? Also 2% SC vs 0% SC is a lot of differences. Doesn't make sense to me.

Your choice. If you buy funds from FSM SG, you wil get less support as the FSM SG thread is almost dead. No activity unlike FSM MY thread. However if you want to cheaper option over long term, go with POEMS SG. Do your own research. I started from here. Learn more or less everything I know from this thread, took the SG govt exam for UT investor and passed it.  smile.gif  biggrin.gif

Once you get the basic, it's more or less the same thing. The only person active over in FSM SG thread will most likely be me, AIYH and dasecret unless more of you guys joint us over there (Avengelice, xuzen, puchongite, T231H, etc) biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

I am still coming back to FSM MY thread for info  rclxms.gif (remember it's universal)

For me, buy from POEMS SG, use info from FSM SG.

Here's FSM SG thread: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3757612
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We based Malaysia 1 very little have FSM sg so no point to compare.
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post Feb 20 2017, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 20 2017, 08:47 PM)
I would, but how would you mitigate forex risk?
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True also. Didnt thought of that. Forex already set us back few %
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post Feb 21 2017, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 21 2017, 02:31 PM)
God KWSP does not answer to puny mortals!

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post Feb 25 2017, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 25 2017, 09:21 AM)
Long time no look around FSM website...

In their current Recommended Portolios...totally don't have RHB Asian Total Return and RHB Emerging Markets Bond rclxub.gif
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Maybe replace by better funds
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post Feb 25 2017, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 25 2017, 11:53 AM)
I have put RHB EMB under my spotlight since Q4Yr2016. I have been observing it for sometime, but never participated in it. I will now, I am planning to do DCA on it, MYR 2.5K every fortnight until I hit an allocation of MYR50K. Will be trimming profit from my India and US exposure and putting them in RHB EMB.

*** Recall my pony express strategy***

With regards to RHB ATR, I will forgo this in lieu of RHB AIF.
That is why I seldom comment on the noobs portfolio. It is not wise to say anything because we totally do not know their background, their needs, their risk profile and their circumstances. A noob could be a 60 y/o recent retiree or a 23 y/o just graduated kid taking his / her first paycheque. The diversity is just too great.
I left KGF completely in Qtr1Yr2016. Algozen™ prompted me to exit KGF then. Have not gone back to it since.

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Yup true. I also don't comment other ppl fund. They have their own choice and reason for selecting the fund. Who to say u or me r better than them.
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post Feb 26 2017, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(fingertips @ Feb 26 2017, 02:12 AM)
I think I'll just pick recommended fund by fundsupermart and let the fund manager do their job.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 26 2017, 08:03 AM)
It could be guessing it could not. Why? In the long run (UT) will always go up IF you choose the right one. How to choose the right one?
(i) Track record - this is just a guide and not a promise it will repeat itself
(ii) Check returns of the fund vs peers, benchmark.
(iii) Check the sharpe ratio
(iv) Others
Did you know that not all FSM recommended funds are good whistling.gif  whistling.gif Some of LYN forum personal selection is better  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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There r some funds not in the recommended list but quite potential return like manulife us and ta technology

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post Feb 26 2017, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Feb 26 2017, 10:23 AM)
Ponzi 2.0 and Great China potentially have 1% SC promo soon?
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Teach u guys 1 FSM hack. When they have this 1% promo just buy into it then switch to whatever find u interested. U get 1% sc for everything cool2.gif since switching is free

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post Feb 26 2017, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(wengherng @ Feb 26 2017, 03:05 PM)
That's an idea that never occurred to me......
But now that you mentioned it, it sounds so obvious......
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Not sure if can do with bond fund. Platform fee of 0.05% is definitely less than 2%
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post Mar 26 2017, 06:45 PM

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My Investment in rhb Asian income now negative return is it still worth?
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post Mar 26 2017, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Mar 26 2017, 06:47 PM)
Lol, negative return =/= bad fund, need to understand why negative return, compare with its peers, you might just bought at a higher price previously, stay cam smile.gif
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 26 2017, 06:50 PM)
Is not 3 years, so just hold/inject more money. Ask yourself why is it negative. A small negative isn't anything. Try -15% see whether you still have the heart or not  biggrin.gif  devil.gif

You should experience a -15% return and then your heart will be brave for anything.  tongue.gif

Btw, I been there and done that. But really cursing buy and then in one month it drop to -15% like that and stay there for quite a while.  bangwall.gif  ranting.gif
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 26 2017, 07:03 PM)
my rhb AIF brought me 4. 37%. so yeah it's all about timing bro
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Ol thnx. Cos my other funds bought have positive return and higher risk I would thought Asian income fund would more stable and lower return but no negative.

QUOTE(noname2188 @ Mar 26 2017, 07:26 PM)
When did you buy ?
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Last month bought only

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post Mar 26 2017, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 26 2017, 07:32 PM)
Last month bought only and you already asking if you should still keep. You wanna kena sound by us is it?
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Haha I mean should keep investing in it or not. Cos u know it suppose lower risk lower return but my cimb and affin with higher risk giving positive return
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post Mar 26 2017, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 26 2017, 07:48 PM)
I have just done a quick check and I found that there should not be negative return after a one month period. I suspect the red you are experiencing is due to the one off sales charge factor.

Silly "kan-cheong" noobs!

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Haha cb. Anyway I think u r right that negative is due to sc. I didn't know the return take into account the sc
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post Mar 27 2017, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 26 2017, 08:34 PM)
Most people (new people) have never experienced that before laugh.gif
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I will never invest in something that have 15% drop
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post Mar 27 2017, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 26 2017, 08:44 PM)
Aren't you happy? Aren't you glad that you get a immediate response to the root of your concern? A maggi meeĀ®, cepat dimasak, sedap dimakan answer™?

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Yea I appreciate that. Thanks for clearing up
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post Mar 27 2017, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Mar 27 2017, 12:18 AM)
hmm.gif contestgeek =/= contestchris ??
just wondering....
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I don't think is same. Chris is more confidence in own self than others kind of talk
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post Mar 27 2017, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 27 2017, 09:56 AM)
look up. check mate
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Ya just saw your post. Haha. If he is contestchris then he already know answer to those question
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post Mar 28 2017, 10:34 AM

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Hey guys I receive email affin hwang quantum will close. Means what? My investment money all return? I was hoping long term sad.gif
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post Mar 28 2017, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 28 2017, 10:40 AM)
Means you won't be able to buy anymore. But you can sell.
It will close once it reach RM400m. Now it's only RM300m. SO if you want to buy, you better faster buy
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Then my investment will still remain and earn from their strategy for long term?

I think need buy about 20k this month then

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