QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 9 2018, 07:15 PM)
approx. -5.6% YTDFundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D
FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D
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Jul 9 2018, 07:23 PM
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Jul 9 2018, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 9 2018, 07:31 PM) I think the FSM managed port are losing not that much.... Will reduce DCA for now + remaining part of usual amounts will go to CMF, waiting for better times |
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Jul 10 2018, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 10 2018, 09:07 AM) maybe because every time they topped up, the NAV goes lower again, and after a few times of DCA...the heart goes weak.... Sort of they foresee that the fund would not improve much for the time being and think that other alternative are better for the time being.... So, going to DCA twice less, and remaining money will go to CMF, once volatility calms down and there will be some signs of consistent uptrend, i will use CMF-accumulated resource to top-up UT holdings. -- I know it might be not a perfect/optimal tactics for now, but safer one for sure. This post has been edited by ROSS_Solar: Jul 10 2018, 12:09 PM |
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Jul 10 2018, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 10 2018, 12:15 PM) You guys know right buying when market is rising = buying when market is becoming expensive. Well, market is rising is not the same as market starts recovery.However, it's also wise to conserve ammo. Set yourself a target. If it fall by x% then you topup. Same like buying low is not the same as catching the falling knife. One has to decide for himself |
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Jul 11 2018, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jul 10 2018, 02:49 PM) Looking back at your posts and conversations, may I ask what's your saving or investment plan? Seems to me, you are confusing DCA with whatever investment plan you had in mind. Yes, I know what DCA is. Just its easier to use this acronym vs "I top up my unit trust holdings each x weeks according to my investment plan [.. details ..]A true DCA saving/investment plan is a plan that ignores the market sentiment. No matter how the market is - whether on a downtrend or uptrend, performing well last month or not, losing money last week or not, the plan sets the emotions aside... and regularly make the purchases (or "top up" which is the more popular phrase in this forum) in almost the same amount everytime. And no, it is not DCA if the investor splits the lump sum investment to cover several months of the market trend. As you have known, since you started your UT investment last year, the market trend was up for nearly a year. The market trend could be continuously going down for a year or more. It could also have hit the bottom last week, and is currently performing a U-turn for the next 6 months. As for when I started... My UT portfolio at FSM is 8years old already, i guess. And sure thing I'm not rushing anywhere, some trial & error approach is fine with me QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jul 10 2018, 02:49 PM) So which direction will the market goes in the next 6 months? Your opinion is as good as any "experts" out there. We decide, we take the risk... after all it is our money. No one really knows. As I said, everyone to decide for himself |
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Sep 3 2018, 11:31 AM
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Sep 3 2018, 04:35 PM
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Sep 13 2018, 06:51 PM
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Woah.... Dinasti -2.9% in one day
neg ~11% in 3 mo... Someone, please stop Trump |
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Sep 27 2018, 10:46 AM
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Oct 12 2018, 07:33 AM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 11 2018, 10:20 PM) If you don't sell, what loss is there? Unless you use margin, then good luck. Totally agreeMarket losses will eventually rebound. The question is how long and whether you can tahan seeing your portfolio continue in red. If one cannot tahan portfolio in red, best to go for safe investment such as FD, ASNB and EPF. UT investing is not for them as they can't take it. To invest is to able accept losses. Well... one can feel uncomfortable seeing red, but the key is to control your emotions Investing requires discipline. For me it's pain to see 4-5k losses daily, but all of these - "paper" loss, untill you lock em with panic sell. |
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Oct 12 2018, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(Vibe007 @ Oct 12 2018, 10:35 AM) Yes. Buy cheap , I’ve seen my colleagues top up monthly on regular basis. But still can’t break even when market down. It’s a bonus for those that accumulate cash can get cheap bargain at this moment and when market recovers , they might not suffer losses when market slide in another round of market crash cycle. Those are two different approaches. If you like to sit on cash for longer periods of time, trying to time markets (consider you loose some potential when waiting for an opportunity), etc - go ahead with it, but consider you need spend more time analyzing and... actually, you'd better go stock market rather than UT with this methodology. Maybe you want to become a professional investor another day and live from it.For me, DCA suits better. I analyze portfolio performance and markets once in a 6 month for the rebalance options, in all other times - simply go DCA as planned each week. Sometimes, when have extra cash, then tossing more of it during "selloff" periods. This way i spend little to no time on this, focusing on my own work which provides my primary income. For example, this year YTD my portfolio went ~-4%, but grand total is green and surely can absorb much more paperloss (DIY portfolio started 2010). My managed portfolio at FSM started about year ago, for now sits at -2% red, but i don't really care much This post has been edited by ROSS_Solar: Oct 12 2018, 10:53 AM |
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Oct 25 2018, 08:22 AM
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Oct 25 2018, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 25 2018, 08:26 AM) 2018 gain. Not yet 2017.Wish me luck that market decide to wipe off 2017 gain as well. That will be interesting. depends on port allocation. I'm half-way into 2017 already.As for wishing good luck, personally, i don't care much, but majority of people here won't share your wishes |
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Jun 5 2019, 07:51 AM
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Does anyone know what had happened to RHB Islamic bond? -4% in one day, no dividend announcements... weirdo
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Jun 5 2019, 08:42 AM
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Jun 5 2019, 08:47 AM
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morning star confirms same..
https://my.morningstar.com/ap/quicktake/ove...ceId=0P00008MIY This post has been edited by ROSS_Solar: Jun 5 2019, 08:48 AM |
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Jun 5 2019, 08:51 AM
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Number is also confirmed at RHB website
https://www.rhbgroup.com/malaysia/products-...ent/fund-prices --- Yeah, there were 2 defaults for bonds held by RHB IBF that i remember... This is going to be the third one, i guess |
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