QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 28 2022, 06:28 PM)
Thanks. That would be a valuable inputs from you. FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D
FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D
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Mar 1 2022, 05:44 PM
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Mar 22 2022, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(sgh @ Mar 21 2022, 10:34 PM) Mutual funds top holdings are all ETF I already share in the other thread and I have invested already. Pay $100 buy so many ETF good except for expense ratio. But those I find are from FSM Spore, dollarDex, poems. I find FSM Msia choices limited hope they increase their fund offering to benefit Msian investors Thanks for all the inputs on ETF. But surely ETF beneficial to small investors who could not afford to buy individual stocks? |
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Mar 23 2022, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(sgh @ Mar 22 2022, 07:02 PM) Yes it is like pay $100 buy into many stocks. But index tracking ETF got flaws. If all stocks in the index fare badly, then the ETF share price will drop (KWEB ETF saga in SA thread is classic example). Such passive index tracking ETF die die must buy stocks that is in the index. But mutual funds got fund managers they can siam like buy stocks not in the index etc but they ask for more monies hence expense ratio higher in mutual fund. But investors cant do much isn't it if the index is going down.Active non-index tracking ETF starting to gain traction but since active expense ratio slowly creeping up. I will not be surprised soon they hit 1% Since you are from SG, may I get advice from you if SG-REIT ETF a good buy? I am looking at UOB APAC Green REIT and CSOP iEdge S-REIT Leader Index. QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 22 2022, 09:38 PM) THEmactic have the same risks as well May I know what is check the tracking error and how it could minimize lose?Only thing to do is to check the tracking error against the index |
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Apr 7 2022, 01:46 PM
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Hi need to get some advice here.
I intend to invest in a SG ETF. Is it useful to convert my MYR into SGD under the Cash Account and buy the fund in SGD? Thanks. |
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Apr 13 2022, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(sgh @ Apr 12 2022, 05:53 PM) Good promotion pity FSM Spore don't have. But wondering UT investor have you all think of also diversify into ETF? SA, Syfe and Bogleheads a lot of ETF supporters for low fees basically. It doesn't hurt to diversify your investment instrument to include ETF. I understand some investors have reservation of using overseas broker like IBKR so prefer to keep to local brokers for own personal reason. So now you have decided to play ETF! FSM Spore has a unique ETF RSP program which I am not sure why FSM Msia don't have. In this ETF RSP, you pay very low fees less than $1 for my case to DCA the ETF you want based on a list of ETF in their approved program. The reason ETF investors using IBKR is the low 35 cents fee else I doubt they go for IBKR and DCA every month more which include forex exchange incurred etc. ETF need not be just US centric it can be SGX,HKEX centric for those more comfortable with Asian market ETF for which I am. So UT investors time to consider ETF too. For Asian market ETF IBKR is not really that cheap which is why when ETF investor mention they use IBKR highly likely they only go for US listed ETF. For Asian ETF there are more other alternative. And let me repeat again, despite the ETF supporters for low fees and better performance, let me confidently say there are UT annualized return which is comparable to ETF. If ETF is so good, they would have made UT disappear in the investing arena but it is not. Hence to reap the best of both worlds is to invest in both instruments. But unfortunately, there is no DCA for ETF in FSMOne Malaysia (at the moment). |
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Apr 14 2022, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(sgh @ Apr 13 2022, 05:25 PM) I have since late last year. But strictly SGX,HKEX ETF no US ETF as those are expensive in FSM ETF RSP. You have to know if you go for the ETF RSP aka regular savings plan there are limitations as you are not DIY buy,sell from the stock exchange. I believe they consolidate everyone monies and buy,sell bulk order else how to explain I only need to pay less than 1 dollar fee for each buy fee? yes many limitations buy if you treat them as saving plans, I guess it worth it. Limitations 1. Can only buy once a month cutoff at 8th of each month 2. Can only sell once a month cutoff at 15th of each month. If you want to DIY sell (timing the market for e.g) those that are bought via RSP you go by their comm fee of XXX dollars very expensive 3. Only a list of approved ETF are offered in their RSP program so if you fancy some ETF and not in the list you cannot use this RSP. You need to DIY buy from market again at XXX dollars very expensive This ETF RSP only good for really buy and hold investors (those looking to time in and out market no good due to limitations above). Minimum 50 for DCA amount but for some like Gold ETF it is 300. E.g of HKEX fees Exchange Settlement Fee(0.00400%) SGD 0.87 Exchange Stamp Duty(0.13000%) SGD 0.00 Exchange Trading Fee(0.00500%) SGD 0.01 Exchange Transaction Levy (FRC)(0.00015%) SGD 0.00 Exchange Transaction Levy (SFC)(0.00270%) SGD 0.00 Processing Fee (0.0%) SGD 0.00 (aka FSM processing fee) Total Fees SGD 0.88 E.g of SGX fees Exchange Clearing Fee(0.03250%) SGD 0.03 Exchange Settlement Instruction Fee SGD 0.37 Exchange Trading Fee(0.00750%) SGD 0.01 Processing Fee (0.0%) SGD 0.00 (aka FSM processing fee) Total Fees SGD 0.41 Looking at so many fees levied by the respective SGX,HKEX stock exchanges for each buy,sell transaction I can roughly understand why even IBKR unable to offer 35 cents yet. Even Tiger, moo also cannot so we wait for one good broker can offer 35 cents for SGX,HKEX. |
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Apr 15 2022, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(sgh @ Apr 15 2022, 12:21 PM) To share just got my first HKEX ETF dividend via FSM Spore ETF RSP. It has no tax just like S-Reit stocks. But unlike UT where one can choose to take or reinvest dividend there is no such option. Second the dividend will be in HKD and no auto conversion into your country currency. If you want need to manually convert using FSM currency converter subject to the rate that time. I am still waiting for you to recommend a S-REIT ETF. Now in FSM I have two other currencies besides own SGD. CNH for China UT dividend and HKD for HKEX ETF dividend. The ETF I have is ChinaAMC HK banks (3143) which explain why got dividends. Most other HKEX ETF don't have dividend. China stocks,ETF,UT are severely beaten at this point in time and most investors have stop DCA or going in so a little dividends during this waiting period give some warm feeling. I hope FSM Msia to come out the ETF RSP soon just like FSM Spore. There is a demand definitely else the 0% FSM processing fee would not have extended one more year. Most investors are after SGX HKEX ETF. US ETF few takers since cheaper alternative is out there unless one prefer local broker over overseas broker. |
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Apr 17 2022, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(sgh @ Apr 15 2022, 06:41 PM) So far there is 3 I know of Thanks for the useful insight. 1. NikkoAM-StraitsTrading Asia ex Japan REIT ETF SGX CFA 2. CSOP iEdge S-REIT Leaders Index ETF SGX SRT 3. UOB APAC Green REIT ETF SGD Class Units SGX GRN All three is inside FSM ETF RSP. I think there maybe some overlap in the stocks. 1 has the longest history and 2,3 are pretty new. Between 2 and 3 I pick 2 reason I don't believe in all these new trend green esg etc. Such mandate actually limit to what kind of stocks can be inside the ETF. What if a good performing make monies stock say tobacco maker for e.g becuz not green so cannot be included ? Monies talk loudest IMHO. Conclusion I would choose 1,2 or take both. I already have a monthly pay dividend Asia Pacific REIT UT so never go for the SGX REIT ETF which pays quarterly too long wait for me. |
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Apr 17 2022, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 16 2022, 07:01 PM) How do dividends work in unit trust funds? Yes, you were right that everytime dividends are distributed, the NAV will drop......... However, dividends are not returns on your investment. So, what happens when your unit trust pays dividends? ...... Each time your unit trust fund pays out your dividend, the Net Asset Value (NAV) of each of your units will decrease accordingly. Read for more complete pictures... https://www.cimb.com.my/en/personal/life-go...-they-work.html So, you mean only true stock, ETF give real dividends? |
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May 23 2022, 01:49 PM
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Hi Sifus:
I have two unrelated to each other questions: 1. What are the disadvantages of owning fractional shares (obtained via ETF RSP)? 2. Any similar/equivalent unit trust fund for Franklin U.S. Opportunities-MYR (i want to tap into US market via UT)? Thanks. |
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Jun 1 2022, 01:36 PM
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Jun 24 2022, 01:50 PM
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Jul 12 2022, 05:34 PM
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Slightly out of topic, what changes in HK market (economy/finance context, Hang Seng Index) at the 50th years?
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Jul 22 2022, 05:31 PM
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Hi,
From what I read from here, ETF is passively managed. However, some mentioned that it could also be semi-actively managed. Any examples for both and how can we spot them? |
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Jul 24 2022, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 22 2022, 06:52 PM) googled and found this,...hope it can provide you with some info while you wait for value added responses This is very helpful. How to Tell the Difference The easiest way to determine if an ETF is active or passive is to read the prospectus. For example, the ARK Innovation ETF (ARKK) summary prospectus says that it’s an “actively-managed exchange-traded fund” in the “Principal Investment Strategies” section on the first page. Simply scanning the prospectus for the word ‘active’ may be sufficient. Active prospectuses also typically highlight investment strategies, like finding ‘undervalued securities’ or using a ‘bottom-up’ approach. For example, a PIMCO active ETF prospectus says, “PIMCO will utilize a bottom-up approach to seek to identify asset classes and securities that are undervalued,” which suggests an active approach. The final tell-tale sign of an active ETF is the lack of an underlying index. While active ETFs may mention benchmark indices, they will never have an underlying index since investment managers select the assets. That said, some strategies blur the line between active and passive because they use underlying indexes, as we’ll see next. Blurring Active and Passive The techniques we’ve covered can help you determine if an ETF is active or passive, but it can still be difficult to tell in some cases. In particular, smart beta ETFs use proprietary indexes weighted by factors other than market capitalization. One could argue that these indexes essentially automate stock picking, making them more active than passive. more,... https://www.dividend.com/active-etfs-channe...%20first%20page. Recently, I came across an Unit Trust Fund that mentioned it does not have any benchmark because the Fund is managed on a 'total return basis' and as such, it does not seek to outperform any benchmark. What does this means? |
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Jul 25 2022, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 24 2022, 07:19 PM) No idea. It was just briefly mentioned in the fund factsheet. No explaination whatsoever in the annual report tho.QUOTE(saintprayer @ Jul 24 2022, 07:22 PM) I think i have came across this fund. Its target is to return say 8% pa. So its benchmark is 8% and have no other similar benchmark available. Nope, this fund I mentioned has no targeted return like yours. QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Jul 25 2022, 10:49 AM) It is Nikko AM Singapore Equity Dividend Fund - MYR.QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 25 2022, 12:16 PM) I wondered how benchmark is decided (whether to put or not to put, or which benchmark to put)? |
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Jul 26 2022, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 25 2022, 02:21 PM) From the Product Highlights Sheet... Can please elaborate?Nikko AM Singapore Dividend Equity Fund - MYR Class https://www.fsmone.com.my/admin/buy/reports...ceMYNAMSDEM.pdf Most probably the benchmark are highly correlated to the fund's mandate |
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Jul 31 2022, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Jul 29 2022, 09:23 PM) I got this email today: Thanks for the info.Dear Valued Customer, Thank you for investing with FSMOne. We have been informed by Affin Hwang Asset Management Berhad (“AHAM”) that they intent to change the distribution policy of Affin Hwang Select SGD Income Fund (the “Fund”) to allow the Fund to declare income distribution out of its capital. Currently, distribution of income by the Fund can only be made from realised gains or realised income. The proposed change would allow the Fund the ability to distribute income on a quarterly basis in accordance with its distribution policy. While AHAM intend to continue declaring distribution from the Fund’s realised gains and / or income, the ability to declare distribution out of the Fund’s capital would enable the Fund to better meet its objective of providing investors with regular income distributions, even when the Fund has insufficient realised gains and / or income to do so. I'm not very sure but this doesnt sound like a good idea....? What would be the possible outcome(bad) if income is distributed from the capital? If it is indeed bad, why it says "would enable the Fund to better meet its objective of providing investors with regular income distributions"? Because so far, this Fund has not missed any quarterly distribution (with its current distribution format). |
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Aug 1 2022, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(sgh @ Jul 31 2022, 11:24 PM) Previously it distribute dividend by realised gains or income means they sold stocks off or get stock dividends to give out the dividend to holders. Now with the change it means in order to continue giving it maybe taking from the capital of the fund instead. By right capital should be used to invest to get more profits and stock dividends so the fund can grow and not use to pay holders dividends. With lesser capital how to invest more? So MUM suspicion is there; that the FUND is no longer be able to distribute good income to the holders. But paying from the capital will slowly erode it. But yet from holder point of view I want to have my dividends consistently not to be missed so fund manager feel pressured to fulfill that wish else holders withdraw from the fund no more job for fund managers QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 1 2022, 05:50 AM) Come to think more about it,... So, this Notice clearly not following the guideline? Unless there are changes to the SC guidelines on unit trust funds.... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...BUr2eM3M3FcpvF3 Google and found that,... Just not sure if it is still valid or latest or genuine. 🤔 SC must hv changed that, else,. 🤔 Since I think it is an epf approved fund,... Hope it is not, Epf request for constant good dividend pay out? 🙏🙏 But we are still not sure if the Notice means 100% paying from the capital, OR allow to pay from the capital if realised gain is not enough..... |
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Aug 28 2022, 07:16 PM
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Do FSM Malaysia and FSM Singapore have the same Recommended Unit Trust/ETF Focus List?
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