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solarmystic
post May 20 2020, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(crazyfatt @ May 20 2020, 12:08 AM)
Helping fren ask in behalf. He just change from 9900k to amd 3950x + asus formula x570.

1. He wish to change the ram and what ram is recommened for ryzen system?

2. How to OC to get better performance ? (He is using full set watercooling.)


Hope can get some answer from all sifu. Thanks
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1. If he came from a 9900K system, he should already have godly RAM, but to whit; 3600 MHz C16 or better RAM from G.Skill is recommended in order to get a 1:1 ratio with the Infinity Fabric for best performance.

2. Ryzen OC for Zen 2 chips are quite counterproductive compared to Zen + and Zen 1; by default Zen 2 chips will turboboost to the highest frequencies it can reach on its own for both single and multithreaded tasks as long as temperatures are below a certain threshold. So keep the chip cool enough and it will sustain the highest frequencies possible on its own.



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solarmystic
post May 20 2020, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(keewah @ May 20 2020, 12:01 AM)
AMD U-Turn?


now B450, X470 Motherboards WILL Now Support Zen 3
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That is fantastic news, looks like Ryzen 3xxx chips will turun harga after all when Ryzen 4xxx chips come out since B450/X470 owners can just dump those chips and do insocket upgrades to Ryzen 4xxx without moving up to the B500 mobos.


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post Apr 30 2023, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Apr 30 2023, 01:00 PM)
kaboom
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Really nice vid from tech Jesus, they have truly outdone themselves this time.

What's not so nice is the evasive and misleading responses given by both AMD and the mobo manufacturer to GN, trying to sweep the problem under the carpet and putting the blame on the end-user for their OWN fuckups.

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post May 10 2023, 01:47 PM

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GN's follow-up on their previous AMD Kaboom video.


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post May 10 2023, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(targon @ May 10 2023, 02:37 PM)
So what's da conclusion?
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The take away is the same as the first video with more explanation and context.

The core issue isn't the aftermath from using a dead CPU with ASUS board (though still an issue). It's why did the CPU die to begin with and how? If you just have crap luck and ended up with one of the chips with just the right "quality", any board pumping high voltage can degrade it to where there is a dielectric breakdown/short. ASUS problem is that after this happens, the board is asleep at the wheel and keeps pushing the gas pedal. Other boards may have better OCP and cut the power, but the CPU is still going to be dead (as some posts here have shown with dead 7000 series and very slight discoloration in substrate).

GN deduced that it's likely due to high SOC voltage (ASUS boards were likely more notorious at applying higher voltages). What we've seen is that nearly all boards were applying higher voltages. If the degradation has already begun, there is no reversing it. At best, you can halt/slow it down to where the use cycle of CPU will be greater than the degradation.

There is no point in panicking now, you can lower the SOC voltage with updated bios or manually and keep on using the CPU. There isn't really a whole lot else that someone can do if they've been feeding high voltage. Maybe the silicon is a champ and nothing happened, maybe something did, no way to know unless you got some of this equipment laying around to scan your CPU.

Oh, also, the video ends with him calling Asus a scumbag company and that their will be a third part to this series where they discuss Asus being a scumbag company and warranty claims that will be involved etc.

This issue is prevalent on Asus boards.

"This story is mostly done, we have one more piece at least that focuses though on the Bios, the Warranty issues, and Asus being a Massive Scumbag of a Company. But that video is less objectively focused and more focused on some of the more Don't be a scumbag company aspect of it"

Word for word what he said.


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post May 12 2023, 03:01 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ May 11 2023, 11:29 PM)
Could the cookoff only related to Asus mobo and others no problem? I dunno.
Maybe Zen1,2,3 DOCP is using intel XMP so the SOC V setting is more conservative than EXPO way of driving more V into the CPU as the Asus one did.
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Speaking of which, Part 3 of GN's coverage of the AMD Kaboom phenomenon, though this one is more editorial, and blasts ASUS for being a scumbag company throughout the whole debacle.



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post May 16 2023, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 16 2023, 10:52 AM)
Should've done this right from the start instead of resorting to cloak and dagger BS with the userbase. Their rep is sullied now.
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post Jun 30 2023, 09:47 PM

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SURPRISE


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post Jul 24 2023, 04:36 AM

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QUOTE(Pravin_Kopite @ Jul 24 2023, 03:50 AM)
Only gaming really as my work is not that performance dependent. I game on a 4K TV (with DLSS) with a 3070, 16GB RAM and a 650W PSU.  Planning to buy for Starfield but will also likely use it for Spiderman and Diablo.

Budget wise I can afford the 5800x3d + a cooler like AK600, but 'worthiness' also matters to me la since the price is 3x the 5600.
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For gaming look no further than the 5800X3D. Best in socket upgrade for AM4. Will last until your next total platform upgrade, can definitely be paired with even more powerful GPUs than the 3070 as well in case you decide to move up GPU tiers in the near future.

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post Oct 25 2024, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Oct 25 2024, 07:42 AM)
Seems like nothing too exciting from Core Ultra side. A good use case for them is to have decent media capability thanks to the IGP.

The platform price is high though. Zen 5 is getting small price cut and should land on similar price but there is low cost board option for 65W CPUs. sweat.gif
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Unexciting is putting it mildly lmao, disastrous is a more fitting word to describe Arrow Lake right now, especially in gaming.

I predict AMD will definitely price the 9800X3D at a minimum of 500 USD now, as the BEST and ULTIMATE gaming CPU in the market, they have zero competition for the top spot now.

They have strategically stopped shipping new 7800X3Ds for the past few weeks now, so much so that the ones remaining have skyrocketed in price to 450+ USD, so people that are desperate for any AM5 X3D CPU will pay whatever they ask for it.

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