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post Mar 4 2017, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 4 2017, 07:50 AM)
And that's the problem. You had your expectation, so it's not the product that failed you but rather you had expectations.

If you look at the presentation past to present, AMD didn't market much on the gaming aspect.

Fact remains that gamers isn't their main market, they look at overall - gamer, content creator and servers.
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goldfries, did you pair ryzen with amd card? vortez side socre "higher" with rx 480. Lastly, disabling smt does it make a differences in testing?

https://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/amd_r..._review,19.html

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post Mar 4 2017, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 4 2017, 12:56 PM)
I did but I so no point doing benchmarks on RX 470.
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oh ok.
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post Mar 5 2017, 10:04 AM

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Any idea on power consumption? from many review site, power consumption higher than advertised.
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post Mar 5 2017, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 5 2017, 11:06 AM)
QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 5 2017, 11:38 AM)
Depend on your workload, i think the power consumption is really good for 8c/16t processors.
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very impressive compare to intel counter part.

i mix up tdp with power consumption. Thought that tdp = power consumption.


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post Mar 5 2017, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Mar 5 2017, 02:34 PM)
The power is better than Intel 8 core parts and even 7700k in certain case which is great. But from the graph can be seen once overclocked, the power consumption shoots  shocking.gif
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well, 8c, 10c not exactly for oc. heck even 6c. Same thing happen for intel. Highest oc headroom would be at 4c, i suspect ryzen r3 will be beast. Going by power consumption, 1700 touch only 13x watt at full load. What if number of core cut down half? it definately give more oc headroom. Technically, someone can disable 4c and try oc, although not really same. Lol

Also i hate when ppl compare to 8c and 10c core, ryzen lose in certain application and at the same time they compare 7700, ryzen lose in gaming. Then they conclude ryzen is rubbish.
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post Mar 6 2017, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 5 2017, 03:30 PM)
Yeah, in his thread The Stilt claim that pushing over 3.8Ghz is "extremely costly".
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just gone back from anandtech forum. very detail discussion! samsung foundry 14nm lpp seems to be few hundred mhz less than tsmc 16nm ff+. Besides, samsung finfet also coming from global foundry. Thats explain why amd oc are currently limited unless they use tsmc or others. Amd gone to samsung, probably because tsmc currently getting busy with apple and nvidia. Only samsung able to provide high quantity for amd.

However, the oc should not be more important than the problems(anandtech site) currently.
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post Mar 6 2017, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(terrorist @ Mar 6 2017, 11:51 AM)
Some comparison from other country  smile.gif

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ryzen having some issue in light workload right now, thats why gaming are weaker. However large workload will not trigger the issue. I think the problem known as thread shuffling. Thats explain the weird result everyone looking at.

also, it seems like someone at anandtech getting ryzen work(sort of) in windows 7 yay!

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post Mar 6 2017, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 6 2017, 12:24 PM)
So many issues AMD need to sort out, don't know if they can do it before R5 release.
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ya, but this is first time amd processor been this complicated. Plus, they are small budget. Consider very good as they can put themselves same league as intel. R5 should roll out on time because quite alot issues can be solve through software later. Community at anandtech site are helping with the problem too.

 

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