well, 8c, 10c not exactly for oc. heck even 6c. Same thing happen for intel. Highest oc headroom would be at 4c, i suspect ryzen r3 will be beast. Going by power consumption, 1700 touch only 13x watt at full load. What if number of core cut down half? it definately give more oc headroom. Technically, someone can disable 4c and try oc, although not really same. Lol

Also i hate when ppl compare to 8c and 10c core, ryzen lose in certain application and at the same time they compare 7700, ryzen lose in gaming. Then they conclude ryzen is rubbish.