CES2024

AMD launches $249 Ryzen 7 5700X3D with game-boosting 3D V-Cache tech arrive January 21, AMD also updates AM4 platform with new Ryzen 5000 ‘GT’ processors for 2024
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/...essors-for-2024

a lot of intel fansi here anyway.. 9000 series launch delayed by 2 weeks.

i'm looking forward for the 9700x variant. but based on malaysian pricing, the price is probably close to 9800X3D.

Once again (allegedly) Malaysia infamous again for screwing things up on a global scale, its the pits if we cannot even get a simple print on the CPUs correct. As some said, the rot is so bad its time for a Change.

Meanwhile I agree with an internet posting "And if you allow me, why did they also delay the review samples due to this? That does not completely makes sense to me. They could have just sent out a note saying "oopsie, we misprinted" and get the reviews done. So... I can't help but think 4D Chess."

Well its what Msian netizens were saying before, you know what, so now it failing again its time for us to rise up again wat   

MLID again. Cant really trust him whether its Intel or AMD. Needs more veritable sources

2700X is 105W part, so going to 3700X @ 65W was regression? Since you are so fancy of the gaming performance, now tell me with PBO max, how good it is? Why are you not calling 7700X a scam? It is under the same situation too.

Just chill and consider it as a 7700XT, priced a little higher and run a little faster. If you want absolute best value, just get 14600KF?
Nobody is your savior and owes you something. You already can see it coming from the pricing. When AMD was leading in Athlon FX era, the processors were obscenely priced too. Intel too did the same, by giving you 4 cores for years.
Get quotation from shop, shopee does mark up. SRP is 1749, likely you will get some discount from shop when bundle with motherboard. 

Shops are also trying to clear some space for B850/X870.

Well well well, looks like you were not aware of several points that I was trying to get you deduced.
- PBO doesn't magically increase the max boost clock for gaming. AMD PBO user should know about it as this behaviour has been around since the 3000 series. What it does is to relax the power limit so all cores can run at higher speed. It only does negligible change to the FPS chart, and performs well if and only if there is temperature headroom. 7700 will perform the same with 7700X. So you understand it now?
- 7700X is the hardest processor to cool in AM5 with highest base clock in a CCD, so the stock settings is already at the limit. It doesn't matter if you enable PBO or not, it still runs into the temperature limit quickly. There is only negligible gain. You can go ahead with AIO and it won't change the fact. This is also a known pattern from 3000 series (i.e. 3700X-3800X, 5700X-5800X).

** With 280 AIO.
- 7700 costs RM100 cheaper and comes with a nice RGB Wraith Prism cooler, potentially saves you RM250 (150 for PA120) from 7700X.
What do you get?
  - Similar gaming performance
  - Fancy of multithreading performance? Get a PA120 and enable PBO, you still save RM100.
https://www.techspot.com/review/2602-amd-ry...7600-7700-7900/

So tell me why should I get a 7700X and have it run at 65W or enable PBO to have some imaginary good gains? 7700 can do all these too.


Now do you want to call 7700X a scam?  On one hand, you asked people not to get 9700X, but on another side you asked people to get 7700X that has the same situation? 
You do aware that 13700K & 7800X3D is RM500 more expensive right? And not everyone buys PC for gaming with RTX4090 and get the massive benefits.

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Here's another drop for you.

It does run faster than 7700, you can't deny it. The price is stupid? Eventually it will replace 7700 after 7700/7700X stock run dry, and the market will tell. There is needless to echo what A says, what B says. Interpret the charts, know where it is good or bad in, end of story. As always, good product at cheap price will drive up demand and land at higher price due to high demand. The same too for badly priced products. It is how the market works. All your rant will become unneeded for when it is decided by market, not solely AMD alone.

P/S : AMD will be changing the TDP to 105W in AGESA 1.2.0.1a Patch A, so looks like they learnt their lesson?

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It is a ordinary CPU to start with, not specific for gaming. There are plenty of factors to consider, but generally go look for something else.

Uik.. suddenly this thread becomes lively..

Don't let it become like wccftech lol

Just go 9700 non-X if it ever exists. There has been always a question mark with AMD's real intention behind releasing non-X and X part, where one can turn one to another with PBO-eco or PBO-enabled. 

7500F is a good value buy atm, and likely you need not going to 9000 series in anytime soon unless you absolutely need the extra teeny-tiny bit multithreading performance. or heck, you could even get 7700 and skip 9000 entirely. Just divert the fund to GPU for gaming .

Also... https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-5-550...d-in-eec-filing 

I don't remember there's setting for vram in bios, Lenovo efi setting is very bare unlike asus
My Asus mini PC with r7 5700u can set vram for the igp.

Another sus is windows 11, and the truck load of background services...

lots of blue camp trolls there. haha

Windows is also sus culprit for minor performance lowering due to not-so-admin privileges.


But at the same time 99xxX family now has core parking feature which relies on the accuracy of Windows Thread director to isolate workload to the correct CCD as apparently cross CCD latency has increase 3X over AM4! About 200ns! Which is why AM5 need this feature otherwise it will perform even worse than 79xxX! 

Since this thread direction function is only working on Win11, for new AM5 buyers you will have no choice but to use Win11.

what's going on here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlfTHCzBnnQ

Just glad I bought a 7700x last time So much drama relating to it with the new cpu lol.. was planning to upgrade it to a better one tho.waiting for the x3d.

what's the original msrp for 9600x, is the price cut already arrive here?