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post Nov 12 2018, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(moto-moto @ Nov 11 2018, 05:31 PM)
is the ecofit high output (HO) available in any supermarket?
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I doubt so. Why not you contact. Philips distributor Sin Lian wah?
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post Nov 12 2018, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(frostier @ Nov 12 2018, 11:57 AM)
I doubt so. Why not you contact. Philips distributor Sin Lian wah?
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i want to test out one tube first, i doubt distributor will sell 1 tube right?
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post Nov 12 2018, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(moto-moto @ Nov 12 2018, 10:22 PM)
i want to test out one tube first, i doubt distributor will sell 1 tube right?
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ask for the dealer that carry it
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post Dec 10 2018, 04:21 PM

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I just called JLL Electrical. They are selling Philips Ecofit 20 W for RM14. Gonna get a few pieces to fix to my rooms.
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post Dec 10 2018, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(flowerhorn08 @ Dec 10 2018, 04:21 PM)
I just called JLL Electrical. They are selling Philips Ecofit 20 W for RM14. Gonna get a few pieces to fix to my rooms.
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Puchong TK light selling for RM14.5.
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post Dec 11 2018, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(flowerhorn08 @ Dec 10 2018, 04:21 PM)
I just called JLL Electrical. They are selling Philips Ecofit 20 W for RM14. Gonna get a few pieces to fix to my rooms.
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Send my regards to Dato Joe
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post Dec 11 2018, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(flowerhorn08 @ Dec 10 2018, 04:21 PM)
I just called JLL Electrical. They are selling Philips Ecofit 20 W for RM14. Gonna get a few pieces to fix to my rooms.
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CIMA lighting selling at rm13.50
I think they are dealer for Philips.
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post Dec 11 2018, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(syk @ Dec 11 2018, 12:34 PM)
CIMA lighting selling at rm13.50
I think they are dealer for Philips.
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Yes, they are.
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post May 21 2019, 07:25 AM

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Just changed some of the fluorescent to LED, running cold and bright. No more flickering.

One of the plastic fitting broke so I went to get a new one, apparently when I ask for LED fitting, they sell those without starter slot, which is not compatible with Philips LED.

This is what 'led fitting' looks like:
L---------N

This is what philips led fitting looks like
L---------
N--------

Any good brands recommendation for those with 'LED fitting'? All I see in this post are philips 20w super bright.

I personally don't like the Philips wiring, when I want to go LED, I will get rid of ballast and starter, and fittings all together due to old plastics may break easily.

I also like the simpler design... LED with dummy starter, I don't like the idea. Can any electrician comment on this? Are there any benefits doing one side powering other than compatibility reasons?

I will never want to go back to traditional ones anymore.. no more flickering on start, flicking in use, also much colder and saves power. Fun thing I know is that the one I replaced comes with Philips starter from Holland which is very durable.
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Any good non Philips brand LED T8 tube to recommend?
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post May 21 2019, 01:18 PM

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Just went Puchong TK light. What they recommend is:

1. if you don't need fancy well known brands, use two side wiring
2. if only use well known brands like philips, use one side wiring.

Bought one 20W philips for testing, cant see the difference with naked eyes. I didnt bypass the ballast so sometimes the led will flick quickly then turns on.

QUOTE(jutamind @ May 21 2019, 07:35 AM)
Any good non Philips brand LED T8 tube to recommend?
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Other than philips, every shop sells different brand for two side wiring tubes hmm.gif Can try FSL since ikea sells them, should be relatively reliable.
Japanese quality are no longer reliable like last time, since their production line is everywhere now, instead of japan only
china brands are getting better since they really care about their brand name now, and they mostly manufactured in their own country & factory.

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post May 21 2019, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(NoobHacker @ May 21 2019, 01:18 PM)
Just went Puchong TK light. What they recommend is:

1. if you don't need fancy well known brands, use two side wiring
2. if only use well known brands like philips, use one side wiring.

Bought one 20W philips for testing, cant see the difference with naked eyes. I didnt bypass the ballast so sometimes the led will flick quickly then turns on.
Other than philips, every shop sells different brand for two side wiring tubes  hmm.gif Can try FSL since ikea sells them, should be relatively reliable.
Japanese quality are no longer reliable like last time, since their production line is everywhere now, instead of japan only
china brands are getting better since they really care about their brand name now, and they mostly manufactured in their own country & factory.
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Please consider Ledvance as well
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post May 24 2019, 08:19 AM

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LedAvance is by Osram. The price is more expensive than Philips. On FSL,some said they are oem for Toshiba. The price sold by major department store is pricey. I gotten about rm10 each for 4ft in a local ligthing shop.FSL is 18w, 1800 lumens vs Philips (High Output) 20w, 2100 lumens.
My 1st T8 led is FSL and since upgraded to Philips now. FSL is reliable, obviously not bright vs Philips HO.

For slimline T8 led bracket, using Philips wiring setting, one can get from Houses of Ligthing in Puchong.Better quality than the generic rm5 one (they also selling generic one) but price is slightly above rm10 each. To me it's worth as bracket easily last more than 10 years.

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post May 24 2019, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(mot88 @ May 24 2019, 08:19 AM)
LedAvance is by Osram. The price is more expensive than Philips. On FSL,some said they are oem for Toshiba. The price sold by major department store is pricey. I gotten about rm10 each for 4ft in a local ligthing shop.FSL is 18w, 1800 lumens vs Philips (High Output) 20w, 2100 lumens.
My 1st T8 led is FSL and since upgraded to Philips now. FSL is reliable, obviously not bright vs Philips HO.

For slimline T8 led bracket, using Philips wiring setting, one can get from Houses of Ligthing in Puchong.Better quality than the generic rm5 one (they also selling generic one) but price is slightly above rm10 each. To me it's worth as bracket easily last more than 10 years.
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LEDvance no longer part of Osram.
They owned by MLS from a China
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post May 31 2019, 02:07 PM

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Hi guys, I have installed Philips ecofit 20w with EMP starter replacing fluorescent t8 32w. I monitor on daily basis and don't see the electric consumption going down. The light is indeed brighter than fluorescent though.
Is that normal?

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post May 31 2019, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(ryuzaki_L @ May 31 2019, 02:07 PM)
Hi guys, I have installed Philips ecofit 20w with EMP starter replacing fluorescent t8 32w. I monitor on daily basis and don't see the electric consumption going down. The light is indeed brighter than fluorescent though.
Is that normal?
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You can do the calculation.

32W-20W=12W save.

If 1 day 8hr ON - 12Wx8hr=96whr save perday.

1 Month saving 96whr x 365 /12=2.9kwh of saving permonth.

TNB rate 0.218sen/kw x 2.9kwh=0.63sen saving each month.

Do you see your bill drop 0.63sen ?
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post May 31 2019, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 31 2019, 02:42 PM)
You can do the calculation.

32W-20W=12W save.

If 1 day 8hr ON - 12Wx8hr=96whr save perday.

1 Month saving 96whr x 365 /12=2.9kwh of saving permonth.

TNB rate 0.218sen/kw x 2.9kwh=0.63sen saving each month.

Do you see your bill drop 0.63sen ?
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do u have power meter?
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post May 31 2019, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(frostier @ May 31 2019, 05:09 PM)
do u have power meter?
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What is power meter ?
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post Jul 14 2019, 10:10 AM

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i think this T8 LED tube working about 10years for me ...today its down ..
switch on..the tube no light up ...replaced another tube ..its light up ..

so anything can use the LED on the tube ?


thanks ...


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post Jul 14 2019, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Jul 14 2019, 10:10 AM)
i think this T8 LED tube working about 10years for me ...today its down ..
switch on..the tube no light up ...replaced another tube ..its light up ..

so anything can use the LED on the tube ?
thanks ...
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You can find out the Led DC voltage and drive it with battery or a power supply.

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