QUOTE(frostier @ Jul 10 2018, 02:14 AM)
Noted with thanks.Will do it.
T8 Fluorescent LED Tube Light replacement, Retrofitting LED tube to existing casing
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Jul 10 2018, 07:51 AM
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Jul 10 2018, 08:08 AM
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Jul 10 2018, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Jul 10 2018, 08:08 AM) Fix T8 LED Tube Warm White on kitchen ceiling.Planning to save electricity and make less maintenance. All the rooms and hall use Philips Ecofit T8 Cool Daylight. Toilet use Ledus T8 Tube Cool Daylight. Thanks. |
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Jul 10 2018, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jul 10 2018, 12:34 PM) Fix T8 LED Tube Warm White on kitchen ceiling. any different between Philip VS ledus T8 tube in lm? both 20w?Planning to save electricity and make less maintenance. All the rooms and hall use Philips Ecofit T8 Cool Daylight. Toilet use Ledus T8 Tube Cool Daylight. Thanks. some brand of T8 tube ..colour may look different even same w.. what's the current light type at your kitchen ceiling ? thanks .. |
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Jul 10 2018, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Jul 10 2018, 03:22 PM) any different between Philip VS ledus T8 tube in lm? both 20w? Both same lumens. Ledus more brighter. As Ledus got 2ft available on my area so put both them in the toilet.some brand of T8 tube ..colour may look different even same w.. what's the current light type at your kitchen ceiling ? thanks .. For Philips Ecofit is the 16w type. For Ledus is the 10w type Philips - 4ft Ledus - 2ft My current light type is the normal fixture with ballast and starter. Take out existing starter and tube. Replaced with the new starter and tube. To fix into existing fixture, the tube light AC input must be position on the left side. Opposite side won't work as the tube light will blink. Trying to find warm white T8 as not all the shops carry this type with starter. Will get the 20w because 16w no warm white. Thanks |
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Jul 10 2018, 06:08 PM
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Hi, any shops in Bayan Lepas, Penang that sells LED Starter Fuse itself as when I open my box.
The LED Starter missing from the box itself and planning to install. The tube light unable to work without LED Starter. No point for me to buy the whole thing the product cost RM 25++ Thanks. |
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Jul 10 2018, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Jul 10 2018, 03:22 PM) any different between Philip VS ledus T8 tube in lm? both 20w? some brand of T8 tube ..colour may look different even same w.. what's the current light type at your kitchen ceiling ? thanks .. QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jul 10 2018, 01:09 AM) Hi. Need help of you guys. If you are in serious retrofit campaign with extra budget, and want to do it right; I would advise against installing Philips Ecofit. Where can I find Philips Ecofit T8 Warm White type as it is not available in some of the shops. I'm from Penang. Planning to buy one to fix in my kitchen. Thanks. You will might end up with disappointingly dim room compared to previous fluorescent tube. Go for Philips MASTER instead. Its lot more efficient and produce better light quality. For comparison on (nominal) rated output: Philips Super80 (traditional, green cap premium fluorescent tube) 36w, 3200lm, 82 CRI Philips Ecofit 16w, 1600lm, 73 CRI Philips MAS LED HO(High output variant) 14w, 2100lm, 83 CRI Side by side comparison T8 840. MAS LED HO (left) Philips Super80, HF Ballast (Right). Dont have Ecofit tube at this moment but it perform worse than both on last comparison I made. MAS LED rated only 2100lm, but its apparent brightness is still higher than 3200lm traditional fluorescent, due to directional beam nature of LED light, which increase its delivered (effective) lumens. I can't say for other brand, but I believe they wold perform same or worse than Ecofit for given nominal wattage. The catch is it is much more expensive, cheapest I get was RM42/unit (vs RM10/unit for Ecofit), and since this tube is not targeted for consumer, its rarely sold in retail shops nor in non-bulk units. This post has been edited by failed.hashcheck: Jul 23 2018, 08:50 PM |
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Jul 10 2018, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jul 10 2018, 04:28 PM) Both same lumens. Ledus more brighter. As Ledus got 2ft available on my area so put both them in the toilet. 16w VS 10w both same lumens?For Philips Ecofit is the 16w type. For Ledus is the 10w type Philips - 4ft Ledus - 2ft My current light type is the normal fixture with ballast and starter. Take out existing starter and tube. Replaced with the new starter and tube. To fix into existing fixture, the tube light AC input must be position on the left side. Opposite side won't work as the tube light will blink. Trying to find warm white T8 as not all the shops carry this type with starter. Will get the 20w because 16w no warm white. Thanks QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ Jul 10 2018, 06:58 PM) If you are in serious retrofit campaign with extra budget, and want do it right; I would advise against installing Philips Ecofit. You will might end up with disappointingly dim room compared to previous fluorescent tube. Philip mas 14w can produce 2100lm?Go for Philips MASTER instead. Its lot more efficient and produce better light quality. For comparison on (nominal) rated output: Philips Super80 (traditional, green cap premium fluorescent tube) 36w, 3200lm, 82 CRI Philips Ecofit 16w, 1600lm, 73 CRI Philips MAS LED HO(High output variant) 14w, 2100lm, 83 CRI Side by side comparison T8 840. MAS LED HO (left) Philips Super80, HF Ballast (Right). Dont have Ecofit tube at this moment but it perform worse than both on last comparison I made. MAS LED rated only 2100lm, but the apparent brightness is still higher than 3200lm traditional fluorescent, due to directional beam nature of LED light, which increase its delivered (effective) lumens. I can't say for other brand, but I believe they wold perform same or worse than Ecofit for the same nominal wattage. The catch is it is much more expensive, cheapest I get was RM42/unit (vs RM10/unit for Ecofit), and since this tube is not targeted for consumer, its rarely sold in retail shops nor in non-bulk units. i installed ecofit 20w 2100lm....worth to change from ecofit to mas? thanks ... |
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Jul 10 2018, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Jul 10 2018, 08:29 PM) 16w VS 10w both same lumens? Different lumens. If same length will be the same. What I mean is that LEDUS is brighter. Using Light bulb also very bright. You are using 20W type? How much you bought per set? Mine is RM 15 per set. Thanks. Philip mas 14w can produce 2100lm? i installed ecofit 20w 2100lm....worth to change from ecofit to mas? thanks ... |
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Jul 10 2018, 08:41 PM
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Jul 10 2018, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ Jul 10 2018, 06:58 PM) If you are in serious retrofit campaign with extra budget, and want do it right; I would advise against installing Philips Ecofit. You will might end up with disappointingly dim room compared to previous fluorescent tube. You are right. Go for Master range Go for Philips MASTER instead. Its lot more efficient and produce better light quality. For comparison on (nominal) rated output: Philips Super80 (traditional, green cap premium fluorescent tube) 36w, 3200lm, 82 CRI Philips Ecofit 16w, 1600lm, 73 CRI Philips MAS LED HO(High output variant) 14w, 2100lm, 83 CRI Side by side comparison T8 840. MAS LED HO (left) Philips Super80, HF Ballast (Right). Dont have Ecofit tube at this moment but it perform worse than both on last comparison I made. MAS LED rated only 2100lm, but the apparent brightness is still higher than 3200lm traditional fluorescent, due to directional beam nature of LED light, which increase its delivered (effective) lumens. I can't say for other brand, but I believe they wold perform same or worse than Ecofit for the same nominal wattage. The catch is it is much more expensive, cheapest I get was RM42/unit (vs RM10/unit for Ecofit), and since this tube is not targeted for consumer, its rarely sold in retail shops nor in non-bulk units. Typical B50L70 is 30k hours for Master. Unless they change that since I left |
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Jul 10 2018, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Jul 10 2018, 08:41 PM) Hi, bright enough to cover the whole room? Mine is 16W. Still acceptable. Heard of one china brand LED T8 which is FSL. Which my condo is using for parking lot and around the building. This tube doesn't need starter. I wanna buy got starter wan so I can know whether can work or not. Wanna buy the warm white but only have the 20W only and I'm not confident to order online. If you are planning to install other LED Tube that uses starter. The Philips EMP Starter can be use for other type of T8. Tried the Philips EMP Starter to LEDUS T8 and vice versa still works. Now gonna find one shop to get the LED Starter Fuse as my LEDUS T8 Starter missing out from the box. Thanks. |
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Jul 10 2018, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jul 10 2018, 08:48 PM) Hi, bright enough to cover the whole room? yes enough....Mine is 16W. Still acceptable. Heard of one china brand LED T8 which is FSL. Which my condo is using for parking lot and around the building. This tube doesn't need starter. I wanna buy got starter wan so I can know whether can work or not. Wanna buy the warm white but only have the 20W only and I'm not confident to order online. If you are planning to install other LED Tube that uses starter. The Philips EMP Starter can be use for other type of T8. Tried the Philips EMP Starter to LEDUS T8 and vice versa still works. Now gonna find one shop to get the LED Starter Fuse as my LEDUS T8 Starter missing out from the box. Thanks. starter needed if you using fluorescent lamp casing ? can by pass the starter if you know to rewiring ... |
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Jul 10 2018, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Jul 10 2018, 09:12 PM) yes enough.... Using fluorescent lamp casing with starter.starter needed if you using fluorescent lamp casing ? can by pass the starter if you know to rewiring ... Don't wanna do wiring. Too dangerous. I don't perform all these kind of things. Will buy the T8 LED Tube Starter Fuse if I can find. Thanks. |
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Jul 10 2018, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Jul 10 2018, 08:29 PM) For current generation of HO(high output) variant, yes.http://www.lighting.philips.com/main/prof/...9002_EU/product QUOTE i installed ecofit 20w 2100lm....worth to change from ecofit to mas? Don't think so. You only save 6w in this case. Unless you could really benefit from 83 CRI upgrade, its more economical to just stick with your existing tube. QUOTE(frostier @ Jul 10 2018, 08:43 PM) You are right. Go for Master range Latest batch I install now is rated for 50k hours .Typical B50L70 is 30k hours for Master. Unless they change that since I left QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jul 10 2018, 08:48 PM) The Philips EMP Starter can be use for other type of T8. Of course it is. "EMP starter" is just extra fabulous name for dummy starter. The inside is just simple wire loop.Tried the Philips EMP Starter to LEDUS T8 and vice versa still works. This post has been edited by failed.hashcheck: Jul 10 2018, 10:20 PM |
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Jul 11 2018, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ Jul 10 2018, 10:18 PM) For current generation of HO(high output) variant, yes. I stand corrected. You are right. Master to begin with was 40k and 50k. Only Essential TLED was rated at 30k.http://www.lighting.philips.com/main/prof/...9002_EU/product Don't think so. You only save 6w in this case. Unless you could really benefit from 83 CRI upgrade, its more economical to just stick with your existing tube. Latest batch I install now is rated for 50k hours . Of course it is. "EMP starter" is just extra fabulous name for dummy starter. The inside is just simple wire loop. |
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Jul 17 2018, 08:10 PM
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Some LED tube (1 side) come with LED starter. any idea how it wire?
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Jul 17 2018, 08:27 PM
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Jul 17 2018, 11:53 PM
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Parking. Going to need the info here
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is the ecofit high output (HO) available in any supermarket?
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