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post Jan 2 2018, 11:51 AM

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so I just bought Switch because of this game... and I didnt regret. This game is good!

fighting Bosses is so fun!
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post Jan 2 2018, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(danger46 @ Jan 2 2018, 11:51 AM)
so I just bought Switch because of this game... and I didnt regret. This game is good!

fighting Bosses is so fun!
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I don't regret getting this game .
The game is good ( far from great ) but that's about it .

Xenoblade 1 is still my personal favorite among the blade series . And of course nothing ever came close to Gear and Saga 1

I was spoiled by all the God Tier jRPG like ToB , DQ11 and P5 last year sweat.gif


P/S : The only god tier aspect is definitely Mitsuda-san 's musics , no doubt about that

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post Jan 2 2018, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jan 2 2018, 12:06 PM)
I don't regret getting this game .
The game is good ( far from great ) but that's about it .

Xenoblade 1 is still my personal favorite among the blade series . And of course nothing ever came close to Gear and Saga 1

I was spoiled by all the God Tier jRPG like ToB , DQ11 and P5 last year  sweat.gif
P/S : The only god tier aspect is definitely Mitsuda-san 's musics , no doubt about that
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ya, its good but far from great but its worth to purchase a Switch for this and.. hate those little annoying thing like getting Rare Blade from Core Crystal and field skill rclxub.gif
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post Jan 2 2018, 06:13 PM

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The best part about the game is getting emotionally connected with the characters even the bad guy character is pretty good. By far it has one of the best character development all rounder. All your companions and even rare blades has a story and you feel connected. Those heart to heart shorts are good and hilarious. Persona series doesn't even have those. Your persona companions lacks any sort of character development outside of the main characters, unlike Xenoblade 2 blades which has a dedicated side quest, heart to heart moments.

If you didn't finish the game yet and also finish the first Xenoblade, then can't say you fully experience the story, as it is pretty much connected, which kinda leads to the future of Xenoblade 3 tongue.gif

Also the Xeno series seems connected in a lot of ways. So many connections in each series it's really fun to have a convo and speculate together. Also come on la, each game is it's own game, pointless comparing something that are totally different. We can literally compare to no end.

Personally if you compare the first game and XC2, 2 did a lot of good things all around, and the only thing that is lacking is that epic ending from the first game. But for me 2 had a lot of good characters developments that if you just compare it to the first game.. you might find the 2nd one a lot better and more enjoyable. 1 lacks in any replayability as well, while the 2nd game you can still do a lot of stuff after finishing the game.

Now i just look forward for the expansion pass, totally gonna buy it as soon as the story expansion is released. Which is around Fall's I think. Hoping it gives a more conclusive and extended ending to the series but that's a bit of a long shot probably.

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post Jan 2 2018, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Jan 2 2018, 06:13 PM)
The best part about the game is getting emotionally connected with the characters even the bad guy character is pretty good. By far it has one of the best character development all rounder. All your companions and even rare blades has a story and you feel connected. Those heart to heart shorts are good and hilarious. Persona series doesn't even have those. Your persona companions lacks any sort of character development outside of the main characters, unlike Xenoblade 2 blades which has a dedicated side quest, heart to heart moments.

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The Comparison between the h2h scenes from X2 and Persona is completely unfair in this case .

The persona series put the main focus on their main characters , the social links and even the side characters . And they are a lot more elaborated than the ones in Xenoblade 2 . I still don't think you should compare them , because there are more than hundreds of Persona in P5 and they already have a lot of characters which you can spend days hanging out with .




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post Jan 2 2018, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Jan 2 2018, 06:13 PM)
If you didn't finish the game yet and also finish the first Xenoblade, then can't say you fully experience the story, as it is pretty much connected, which kinda leads to the future of Xenoblade 3 tongue.gif

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Well we can agree to disagree here , but I would much rather have a proper Xenogears 2 , instead of Xenoblade 3 . I personally appreciate the deep writing , conflicted opinions with engrossing storytelling from gears a lot more . That is not that say I didn't enjoy blade 2 , I did and I like how each individual blade has extra side quests that opens up to their own background story, again the quest writings are still shallow and frustrating though.



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Personally if you compare the first game and XC2, 2 did a lot of good things all around, and the only thing that is lacking is that epic ending from the first game. But for me 2 had a lot of good characters developments that if you just compare it to the first game.. you might find the 2nd one a lot better and more enjoyable. 1 lacks in any replayability as well, while the 2nd game you can still do a lot of stuff after finishing the game.



I do like the Blade system in X2 , particularly the designs but I can definitely tell XC2 is rushed and lacks polishing compare to blade 1, probably due to the relatively shorter development time and rushing to release before the holidays , they didn't even have a proper map system before patch 1.1.1

The massive grind for the rare blade - Gacha system ( without the microtransaction in this case ) also did not have any failsafe built into them , so you literally could spend up to 500 hours grinding the game and still won't get your last blade

P/S : The Link between X2 world and XBX is brilliant, Sea Cloud settings will always be my favorite jRPG settings. ( Remember Skies of Arcadia ? )

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post Jan 2 2018, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jan 2 2018, 09:04 PM)
Well we can agree to disagree here , but I would much rather have a proper Xenogears 2 , instead of Xenoblade 3 . I personally appreciate the deep writing , conflicted opinions with engrossing storytelling from gears a lot more . That is not that say I didn't enjoy blade 2 , I did and I like how each individual blade has extra side quests that opens up to their own background story, again the quest writings are still shallow and frustrating though.
I do like the Blade system in X2 , particularly the designs but I can definitely tell XC2 is rushed and lacks polishing compare to blade 1, probably due to the relatively shorter development time and rushing to release before the holidays , they didn't even have a proper map system before patch 1.1.1

The massive grind for the rare blade - Gacha system ( without the microtransaction in this case ) also did not have any failsafe built into them , so you literally could spend up to 500 hours grinding the game and still won't get your last blade i

P/S : The Link between X2 world and XBX is brilliant, Sea Cloud settings will always be my favorite jRPG settings. ( Remember Skies of Arcadia ? )
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Yeah unfair really to compare one game to another. That's why I prefer not to compare things and take the game as is. At most just the prequel or their other games for comparison. I blame a bit on Zelda Botw, Monolith was doing those world for it on top of Xenoblade 2 game, and as far as I know they were also making 2 while making X. So most the what falls short is definitely the development cycle I guess.
I like all the games I play btw, and if you didn't know yet P5 is like GOTY for me hehe.

Regarding gatcha system, a bet a lot would be frustrated about that. But most japanese people are into that kind of game tho, myself included. They might add an easier way to get a guaranteed rare blade maybe in the next few updates, who knows. And rng is not so bad on my end always get the things I want at least. Last 4 blades for me and around 135 hours in. I'm trying to get kosmos lol, but to no avail everything else pretty good for me, most of the rare blades comes for commom cores rather than rare or legendary, which is pretty weird.

Not sure of Xenogear 2 will ever happen, but I think XC3 is more likely to happen. Will be cool of it happens haha. Or maybe a new IP would be nice as well.
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post Jan 3 2018, 08:56 AM

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I want a Xenosaga Trilogy remaster before other thing hahaha.

Open up 12 Core last night... and all normal Blade. RNG!!
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post Jan 3 2018, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(danger46 @ Jan 3 2018, 08:56 AM)
I want a Xenosaga Trilogy remaster before other thing hahaha.

Open up 12 Core last night... and all normal Blade. RNG!!
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How many blades you acquired? And how far in are you? hmm.gif
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post Jan 3 2018, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Jan 3 2018, 11:48 AM)
How many blades you acquired? And how far in are you?  hmm.gif
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currently at Chapter 5.

Blade I have

Rex
-Pyra / Mythra
-Roc
-Wulfric
-Nim
-Sheba

Nia
-Dromarch
-Vess
-Finch
-Perun


Morag
-Brighid
-Kasandra
-Kora
-Electra

and waiting Praxis to get 'awake' thumbup.gif

so far I am enjoying this game thumbup.gif just hate the RNG core and field skill
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post Jan 3 2018, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(danger46 @ Jan 3 2018, 12:30 PM)
so far I am enjoying this game  thumbup.gif just hate the RNG core and field skill
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Ah around this time i still can resonate with common cores to get rare blades laugh.gif
sometimes if rng is kind you might get it.. but damn i also kinda have like love hate relationship with rng.
Legendary cores have given me just one rare blade so far.... i have more luck on common and rare cores sweat.gif
Kos-mos doesn't exist for me sadly, I think it will be the last rare blade I get.

Also noticed you get Kasandra early, wish I knew about it sooner..... got her pretty late in the game.

Yeah field skill I also find it a bit of a problem. But got used to it at some point, after getting a lot of rare blades, not much of a hassle at least.
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post Jan 3 2018, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Jan 3 2018, 12:45 PM)
Ah around this time i still can resonate with common cores to get rare blades  laugh.gif
sometimes if rng is kind you might get it.. but damn i also kinda have like love hate relationship with rng.
Legendary cores have given me just one rare blade so far.... i have more luck on common and rare cores  sweat.gif
Kos-mos doesn't exist for me sadly, I think it will be the last rare blade I get.

Also noticed you get Kasandra early, wish I knew about it sooner..... got her pretty late in the game.

Yeah field skill I also find it a bit of a problem. But got used to it at some point, after getting a lot of rare blades, not much of a hassle at least.
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maybe because I start the game late (better late then never tongue.gif )... so alot of guide is on the internet now.. so by following some guide to get Blade from Sidequest rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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Just finished the story mode after 172 hours... Overall very enjoyable, but better get use to the combo & elemental things, you'll need it smile.gif
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post Jan 3 2018, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(danger46 @ Jan 3 2018, 01:09 PM)
maybe because I start the game late (better late then never  tongue.gif )... so alot of guide is on the internet now.. so by following some guide to get Blade from Sidequest  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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I don't wanna spoil myself and such, so never looked into any guides when it comes to this game. Kinda like the surprise of seeing the rare blades for the first time. But yeah adter a while found out you can obtain a blade from side quest and what not, so I looked into it after having just a few left to collect.

QUOTE(CKL11 @ Jan 3 2018, 08:46 PM)
Just finished the story mode after 172 hours... Overall very enjoyable, but better get use to the combo & elemental things, you'll need it smile.gif
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How much would you rate this game, and what do you like the most about it?
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post Jan 4 2018, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(CKL11 @ Jan 3 2018, 08:46 PM)
Just finished the story mode after 172 hours... Overall very enjoyable, but better get use to the combo & elemental things, you'll need it smile.gif
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my favorite combo is Fire Fire Fire, Fire Fire Holy. rclxm9.gif So far I have no problem with boss... always die by suddenly jumping off the cliff and kill by level 90 mob lol

QUOTE(Rei7 @ Jan 3 2018, 09:33 PM)
I don't wanna spoil myself and such, so never looked into any guides when it comes to this game. Kinda like the surprise of seeing the rare blades for the first time. But yeah adter a while found out you can obtain a blade from side quest and what not, so I looked into it after having just a few left to collect.
How much would you rate this game, and what do you like the most about it?
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I didnt check guide until Chapter 4.. so seeing
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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Jan 3 2018, 09:33 PM)
How much would you rate this game, and what do you like the most about it?
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Suppose to be 5/5 stars if not for the map & other annoying issues, but still worth 4 stars. Seldom get any great story driven RPG nowadays, couldn't stop during the year end holiday season, end up didn't play splatoon & zelda at all.

Similar to the last 2 entries, still playing this game after completed the story mode. Looking forward to DLC content, hope the next update can fix some of the issue on map as promised though.

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post Jan 8 2018, 10:28 AM

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also get 4/5 from me..

Not good
-The annoying map.
-A lot of backtrack sidequest
-RNG core crystal
-Eng voice kinda suck.. lol (doesnt feel the omhp during the cutscene)


I finally at Chapter 9 now.
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xb2 is rushed yes. xb2 is short dev time, idk ~2 years is short now i guess?
not sure what's next for xenoblade series. they already spread thin post xbx with ~1/2 helping botw & ~1/2 doing xb2 (just a guesstimate). considering they're most likely doing that medieval action game right now, any new xenoblade game (be it xb3 or xbx2) will probably take more time to exist since i doubt they can split into half like what they did with botw/xb2.
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post Jan 8 2018, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(danger46 @ Jan 8 2018, 10:28 AM)
Eng voice kinda suck.. lol (doesnt feel the omhp during the cutscene)
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That is what makes the game bad actually. The voice acting in English are really bad. Homura is not as the gentle type with english voice. Tora is just one annoying noppon in english, while in Japanese he is really cute. Lots of really bad stuff, always feel sorry for those who play Japanese game with english dub. Doesn't convey a lot of things well, and pretty much doesn't give much feel sadly if it's the english voice, and doesn't potray the character that well either.
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post Jan 9 2018, 11:28 AM

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wow Chapter 9
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Seriously.. the battle system is so good but it took 7 Chapters to make it great cry.gif



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