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post Jan 11 2017, 02:15 PM, updated 9y ago

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Sarawak CM dies of heart attack

Wednesday, 11 January 2017 | MYT 2:24 PM
Sarawak CM dies of heart attack

BY SHARON LING


KUCHING: Sarawak Chief Minister Tan Sri Adenan Satem passed away Wednesday afternoon at the Sarawak General Hospital in Kota Samarahan.

He would have turned 73 on Jan 27.

Adenan became the fifth chief minister on Feb 28, 2014, replacing Tun Taib Mahmud.


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post Jan 11 2017, 02:17 PM

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Chief Minister of Sarawak has passed on.

May Allah guide him to the gates of heaven.
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post Jan 11 2017, 02:17 PM

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post Jan 11 2017, 02:18 PM

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legit source please. dont say source from facebook !!
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post Jan 11 2017, 02:18 PM

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manada .... put any link to verify this 1st lor ... later kena sedisyen act ...
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post Jan 11 2017, 02:18 PM

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post Jan 11 2017, 02:18 PM

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post Jan 11 2017, 02:19 PM

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post Jan 11 2017, 02:19 PM

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damn, i thought 2017 will be great Soviet Sarawak regain their point 9 agreement sad.gif

guess like it wont happen liao
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post Jan 11 2017, 02:20 PM

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post Jan 11 2017, 02:20 PM

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post Jan 11 2017, 02:20 PM

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post Jan 11 2017, 02:20 PM

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Official. Yet keluar news.


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post Jan 11 2017, 02:20 PM

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Institut Jantung Negara Kota Samarahan right?
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post Jan 11 2017, 02:21 PM

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post Jan 11 2017, 02:21 PM

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Dengan penuh kesedihan dan dukacita adalah dimaklumkan bahawa YAB CM telah kembali ke Rahmatullah pada jam 1.20 tengahari tadi di Hospital Jantung Samarahan.
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post Jan 11 2017, 02:21 PM

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Source all from my his family n colleagues in whatsapp group. Sure no tipu.


Yet to come out in news.

Im not the type spread false news
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post Jan 11 2017, 02:21 PM

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no official news on this. I think most probably fake

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post Jan 11 2017, 02:21 PM

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post Jan 11 2017, 02:22 PM

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post Jan 11 2017, 02:22 PM

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post Jan 11 2017, 02:23 PM

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Wow big blow to Sarawak.. he's doing good for ppl of Sarawak.

Make sure next cm not running dog for jibbye
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Yip meninggal di IJN Kota Samarahan jam 1320
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innalillah.. rip

great loss to all.. especially sarawakian... so much great things ahead for sarawak installed under his leadership .. unfortunately he is taken too early
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passed away at IJN samarahan at 1230pm due to heart failure. sad.gif
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Even though I don't really like him because of his intolerance and extremism, RIP.
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QUOTE(RoyMcAvoy @ Jan 11 2017, 02:25 PM)
Even though I don't really like him because of his intolerance and extremism, RIP.
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Don't subscribe to Islamist called intolerance?
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rip..

im not a fan of him but i saw he do good to my fellow sarawakian...

innalillah...
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He was a great leader of Sarawak. Alfatihah Tok Nan. Sedeh rasa nyawa kamek...
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hope they will be a good transition team to carry over his vision for the state, education policy etc
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http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...nan-satem-dies/

FMT already comfirm
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rip..

im not a fan of him but i saw he do good to my fellow sarawakian...

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Sin Chew also reports it
http://www.sinchew.com.my/node/1604482
(Translated)
Home News Instantly Domestic
2017-01-11 14:10
Sarbanesian leader Adnan died this afternoon
Tan Sri Adnan, Sarawak's chief minister, died at around 1:30 pm at the age of 72.

(Photo: Sin Chew Daily)
(Sarawak, Kuching, 11 November) Sarasota's chief minister, Tan Sri Adnan, died at about 1:30 pm at the age of 72.

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The head of the Sarawak People's Party and the local government minister, Datuk Sergeant Shen Gui-yin, confirmed the matter and will continue to verify the details with the Chief Executive's Office.

Article Source:
Sin Chew Net · 2017.01.11
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He died at the Kota Samarahan National Heart Institute (IJN), around 1.20pm.

Sarawak Chief Minister Adenan Satem passed away this afternoon, just two weeks shy of his 73rd birthday.

Adenan, who lead the Barisan Nasional (BN) to a resounding victory during the last Sarawak election, died at the Kota Samarahan National Heart Institute (IJN), around 1.20pm.

He assumed the position of Sarawak’s fifth chief minister on March 1, 2014 and helped BN retained the state with a higher majority than it had seen in decades.

State local government minister Dr Sim Kui Hian confirmed Adenan’s death to Sin Chew Daily and said he would be seeking more details on Adenan’s passing from the Chief Minister’s Office.

Youth and Sports Minister Khairy Jamaluddin conveyed his condolences to the family and the people of Sarawak on the passing of the chief minister.

More to come

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...nan-satem-dies/

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RIP CM.

Najib dah post tweeter?
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although im not his greatest fan
in the name of liberalism, he sacrifice some monumental islamic stuff
most probably to satisfy his multi-ethnic bn comrade
not blaming him also
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لَا يُكَلِّفُ اللَّهُ نَفْسًا إِلَّا وُسْعَهَا لَهَا مَا كَسَبَتْ وَعَلَيْهَا مَا اكْتَسَبَتْ رَبَّنَا لَا تُؤَاخِذْنَا إِن نَّسِينَا أَوْ أَخْطَأْنَا رَبَّنَا وَلَا تَحْمِلْ عَلَيْنَا إِصْرًا كَمَا حَمَلْتَهُ عَلَى الَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِنَا رَبَّنَا وَلَا تُحَمِّلْنَا مَا لَا طَاقَةَ لَنَا بِهِ وَاعْفُ عَنَّا وَاغْفِرْ لَنَا وَارْحَمْنَا أَنتَ مَوْلَانَا فَانصُرْنَا عَلَى الْقَوْمِ الْكَافِرِينَ
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as a sarawakian we just lost a great leader , all my colleague sadding not mood to work .
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QUOTE(BornToLive @ Jan 11 2017, 02:33 PM)
now i trust.. I do respect him.. even thou he knew he fail them much..Great leader by day way
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Innalillah

Meanwhile Rajah Beruk Putih still here
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Jan 11 2017, 02:34 PM)
Innalillah.

لَا يُكَلِّفُ اللَّهُ نَفْسًا إِلَّا وُسْعَهَا لَهَا مَا كَسَبَتْ وَعَلَيْهَا مَا اكْتَسَبَتْ رَبَّنَا لَا تُؤَاخِذْنَا إِن نَّسِينَا أَوْ أَخْطَأْنَا رَبَّنَا وَلَا تَحْمِلْ عَلَيْنَا إِصْرًا كَمَا حَمَلْتَهُ عَلَى الَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِنَا رَبَّنَا وَلَا تُحَمِّلْنَا مَا لَا طَاقَةَ لَنَا بِهِ وَاعْفُ عَنَّا وَاغْفِرْ لَنَا وَارْحَمْنَا أَنتَ مَوْلَانَا فَانصُرْنَا عَلَى الْقَوْمِ الْكَافِرِينَ
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innalillahi wainnailaihi rojiun.

a great leader.
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Oh no, I'm quite moved by his passing. Never felt this way about any BN leader.
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as i've not been following his accomplishments as CM, u guys mind sharing the good work that he's done for S'wak so far?

and no i'm not trolling i really want to know.
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watch as his death becomes the victory of all Malaysians, BN TUMBANG because no more deposit now
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so who will replace him as CM of Sarawak?
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macai dap spotted.
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Home > News > Nation
Wednesday, 11 January 2017 | MYT 2:24 PM
Sarawak CM dies of heart attack

BY SHARON LING









KUCHING: Sarawak Chief Minister Tan Sri Adenan Satem passed away Wednesday afternoon at the Sarawak General Hospital in Kota Samarahan.

He would have turned 73 on Jan 27.

Adenan became the fifth chief minister on Feb 28, 2014, replacing Tun Taib Mahmud.

Youth And Sports Minister Khairy Jamaluddin tweeted his condolences to Adenan's wife and his family.

"Condolences to Puan Sri Jamilah and family and the people of Sarawak over the passing of Chief Minister Tan Sri Adenan Satem. Al Fatihah," Khairy tweeted







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watch as his death becomes the victory of all Malaysians, BN TUMBANG because no more deposit now
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plz, just stfu, u making urself look really bad now
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whoever replace him will be macai BitchEND which means BYE BYE DEPOSIT BN  rclxm9.gif
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can you give it your bodo campaigning a rest dulu boleh tak ? org meninggal la
not surprised even Sarawak dap will be saddened by adenan's passing but you... nothing but a little worm
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RIP tok nan. Can't think of any good successor to continue his effort.
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watch as his death becomes the victory of all Malaysians, BN TUMBANG because no more deposit now
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Macai bodo x bertempat. Everyone's in mourning and some retard is cheering happily. Even if you want to, post in a few days la bodo

Anyway, RIP
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Mamak next...
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Is Sarawak gonna get a holiday for mourning?
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Wow, big blow S4S!
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he was so tough against corruption. i like him for that.


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oh come on. some really retard cheering.

stop it guys. politic nanti la

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Sad to hear the news.. RIP to a great leader.
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Woah shit. He was such a capable cm. so much better than the previous and all respect him even opposition. Dark days for Sarawak.
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watch as his death becomes the victory of all Malaysians, BN TUMBANG because no more deposit now
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Actually he was much better than the previous Sarawak CM. Adenan dared to go against on certain policies recommended / implemented by BN in Peninsular Malaysia.
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as i've not been following his accomplishments as CM, u guys mind sharing the good work that he's done for S'wak so far?

and no i'm not trolling i really want to know.
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so far the best is free toll in sarawak
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rip, salute you for the stands of multi cultural state, now I hope your successor won't back down to the extremist
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RIP to a Great Leader...

Coming next CM how will the non-bumi in Sarawak think right now???
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whoever replace him will be macai BitchEND which means BYE BYE DEPOSIT BN  rclxm9.gif
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If wrong people (pro-UMNO) taking over the post, you can say BYEBYE MALAYSIA.
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Current three deputy CM
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RIP. so is his successor? white king?
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He got three deputy CM
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RIP. Thank you for your contribution to the Sarawak.
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the only leader that we respect.

why not the "white rajah" ..damn
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He really did a lot of good deeds to people of Sarawak. Those are unpublished works by both sides of politicians.

Damn, I thought our future will be getting better that finally we had a good leader after so many years under White Hair.

The last state election I didn't vote. Reason was I really hate BN but I really want to vote for him. In the end I decided not to vote. Sad..

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why not the "white rajah" ..damn
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Look at Dr 91's still strong that the best answer...
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QUOTE(tr|n|ty @ Jan 11 2017, 03:05 PM)
He really did a lot of good deeds to people of Sarawak. Those are unpublished works by both sides of politicians.

Damn, I thought our future will be getting better that finally we had a good leader after so many years under White Hair.
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even then it was for a short term. he mentioned he's not going to stay for more than a term, which is 4 or 5 years


but at last, he went sooner than that. its a loss to sarawak indeed
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RIP.. a great loss for Sarawak
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Hopefully his successor will have the political will to follow in his footsteps.
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Actually he was much better than the previous Sarawak CM. Adenan dared to go against on certain policies recommended / implemented by BN in Peninsular Malaysia.
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That's exactly what I meant, he was the only reason why Sarawak still belongs to BN last Sarawak Election.
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a great and witty leader..been under his events for 2 years..now wondering who can replace him?

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Soviet Sarawak die with him liao..
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R.I.P Tok Nan.
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QUOTE(tr|n|ty @ Jan 11 2017, 03:05 PM)
He really did a lot of good deeds to people of Sarawak. Those are unpublished works by both sides of politicians.

Damn, I thought our future will be getting better that finally we had a good leader after so many years under White Hair.

The last state election I didn't vote. Reason was I really hate BN but I really want to vote for him. In the end I decided not to vote.  Sad..
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I got you

This is indeed a saddening news.

Never been in history for a State leader to go against gov that hard, pledging for his dear people.. And still, in names of government.

Can't wait to see days when my gen claim the throne.
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I remember when LKY passaway, a hardcore pro-malay retard member by the name of mecha..something did some happy dance and cheering.


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I remember when LKY passaway, a hardcore pro-malay retard member by the name of mecha..something did some happy dance and cheering.
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so? you dance now?
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That's exactly what I meant, he was the only reason why Sarawak still belongs to BN last Sarawak Election.
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Your behavior will only disgust voters. A person wouldnt show disrespect to the deceased, only animals like you.
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K


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A great lost for sarawak ,A sad day for Sarawakian
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Died this afternoon at 1.20 pm
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jAKIM, JAIS, MAIS, PAIS etc etc will setup office in Kuching next week. sad.gif

Sarawak will be goner if BN chooses the next leader.
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whoever replace him will be macai BitchEND which means BYE BYE DEPOSIT BN  rclxm9.gif
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macai BN
bye deposit BN

what?
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news like this make you wonder some people use all kinds of means to gain wealth, then suddenly die also cannot make use of those wealth.
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jAKIM, JAIS, MAIS, PAIS etc etc will setup office in Kuching next week.  sad.gif

Sarawak will be goner if BN chooses the next leader.
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not gonna happen.
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what are u trying to say bro? hahahah
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always the wrong people dying early...sign
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Heard that the Deputy is to succeed Adenan? If so, die lar... he's cursed by many as "useless".
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thread already open 1 hour ago. ts selow..
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4172203
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QUOTE(leonhang @ Jan 11 2017, 03:18 PM)

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There's a clear difference about being considerate and telling "the truth". Obviously you have done neither of these

QUOTE(superbike @ Jan 11 2017, 03:32 PM)
what are u trying to say bro? hahahah
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All his "political" comments are contradictory. Well, he is a retard so not surprised there
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jan 11 2017, 03:35 PM)
Heard that the Deputy is to succeed Adenan? If so, die lar... he's cursed by many as "useless".
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there are 3 dcm

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i dont get it too, explain pls.
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bila pula bijan nak pergi ......



















.... melawat arwah?
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This really came out of the blue. No wonder la my sarawakian kolik at workplace diam je. Usually kuat cakap
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I remember when LKY passaway, a hardcore pro-malay retard member by the name of mecha..something did some happy dance and cheering.
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you hardcore, dance and cheer la now?

if not, then why need to mention?

trying to create a situation?
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This was most unexpected. RIP.
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aku tak dapat menahan diri aku dari menulis ....

bila pula bijan nak pergi ......
.... melawat arwah?
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QUOTE(ironmaid89 @ Jan 11 2017, 03:44 PM)
Our Great leader condolence of CM death  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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QUOTE(EternalC @ Jan 11 2017, 03:38 PM)
there are 3 dcm

haha
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Oh yeah haha..... what I meant was Johari.....
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why the chicken not die yet?!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(kucinggemok @ Jan 11 2017, 03:32 PM)
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Sorrow day for Sarawakian
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i know man...
Adenan is good leader...
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QUOTE(veztev @ Jan 11 2017, 03:37 PM)
thread already open 1 hour ago. ts selow..
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4172203
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Long as he spread the news [s]with most responded-post[s] and serve us great.

It's clearly been 10+pages for a while now. Claiming ts slowpoke (at this state) will only reflect your retardness.


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I like what he did to resist the acceptance of Ban of Halal Cakes in McD in East Malaysia.

He will be missed.
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i know man...
Adenan is good leader...
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jan 11 2017, 03:48 PM)
Oh yeah haha..... what I meant was Johari.....
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When is chicken and hippo turn?
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this is shocking. he's such a people's person. i hope his legacy of hunting down the illegal loggers will continue with his successor.
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When is chicken and hippo turn?
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bad ppl die slower...
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A strong man worthy for the current Malaysia. Too bad he left early.
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what Sarawakian thought bout Abang Johari? good or bad?
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QUOTE(mak_ang @ Jan 11 2017, 04:01 PM)
sapadia adnan ni..
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QUOTE(mokumoku @ Jan 11 2017, 04:05 PM)
what Sarawakian thought bout Abang Johari? good or bad?
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kaki amno
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I tell u /k news is faster than the star and major newspaper.

True storey.
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QUOTE(mokumoku @ Jan 11 2017, 04:05 PM)
what Sarawakian thought bout Abang Johari? good or bad?
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He's pro gov.. Solid aupporter.

Not a vocal type (as expected).



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post Jan 11 2017, 04:09 PM

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successor is who??
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Sarawak best ever CM......does Sarawak able to find another good leader like him?
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when he become CM everyone say he no use
cuz pick by white hair
now everyone changes d
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White hair henchmen
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Still white hair control behind the scene
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Will Sarawak bn support pas hudud bill
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So now McD Sarawak can implement halal cake back like its fellow peninsula brethren?


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QUOTE(Michael2020 @ Jan 11 2017, 04:15 PM)
Seriously maybe need White Hair to pick another one......or else Najib/Umno will took this opportunity pick the new CM for Sarawak.
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but everyone complain about white hair
now expect white hair to decide

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ruginye...should stay longer and songlap more like the old CM...
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So now McD Sarawak can implement halal cake back like its fellow peninsula brethren?
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malaya?
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QUOTE(kding2 @ Jan 11 2017, 04:16 PM)
Am i supposed to care about this?
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seems like u cared enough to post
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lipoted? so butthurt nye...

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Wow, my post on pas hudud bill reported.
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Your post is reported in CM Sarawak Tan Sri Adenan Satem passed away
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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Jan 11 2017, 04:18 PM)
seems like u cared enough to post
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Well i had to tell someone, especially people like you, that not everyone give a damn about specific person's well being like you did or else you guys will have the delusion that everyone like that specific person.
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Come on respek liao. I jamal msti also i wont say those things u guys say.

Chill dlum
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QUOTE(kding2 @ Jan 11 2017, 04:20 PM)
Well i had to tell someone, especially people like you, that not everyone give a damn about specific person's well being like you did or else you guys will have the delusion that everyone like that specific person.
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need to tell ppl you dont give a damn..

ok
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taib mahmud memerintah lagi lama, dan hidup lg lama.

takziah adenan.
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taib mahmud memerintah lagi lama, dan hidup lg lama.

takziah adenan.
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QUOTE(Michael2020 @ Jan 11 2017, 04:21 PM)
Rumors have it that UMNO actually favors other candidate for CM post to replace Pek Mo.....so when Pek Mo already announce his retirement... umno DPM goes to Kuching to announce a new candidate for CM......Pek Mo knew this so before the DPM arrived at Kuching airport he announce Tan Sri Adenan Satem as CM.

Don't know true or not....
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Yup i also heard the same rumor. The other candidate is more pro UMNO. Hope he's not succeeding Adenan this time.
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White hair just simply choose a relative that listens to him. Easy.

Fame and popularity can be bought
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rip

real shocking
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QUOTE(mars2005 @ Jan 11 2017, 04:30 PM)
Yup i also heard the same rumor. The other candidate is more pro UMNO. Hope he's not succeeding Adenan this time.
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Definitely an opportunity for them to list umno dogs now.
Plenty of them in Sarawak now - all planted by umno, just waiting Pek moh to die
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Sigh, he's very vocal about all the nonsense happening in peninsula, especially religious stuff.

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rip. really sad day.
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Wonder what's going to happen to Sarawak after this. He kept UMNO in line in East Malaysia.
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I thought he is the most decent BN MB so far.
Sad.
I hope BN wont put some dumbfuck to replace him.
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QUOTE(Ripp87 @ Jan 11 2017, 04:42 PM)
Definitely an opportunity for them to list umno dogs now.
Plenty of them in Sarawak now - all planted by umno, just waiting Pek moh to die
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They can't do much as long as Christian still the majority.

They can't hurt the non muslim feelings like they do in semenanjung.
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Abg jo lean toward umno. That's why taib choose tok nan last time. I do hope non Malay/melanau become our next CM.

A big no candidate: awang tengah.
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That fuckin white haired bastard still alive, while arguably the best thing that ever happened to sarawak ended today. Don't be surprised that its business as usual pre adenan ERA thanks to abang jo being weak and fuck.
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damn, i thought 2017 will be great Soviet Sarawak regain their point 9 agreement sad.gif

guess like it wont happen liao
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after he gone, Taib come back as CM?
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That fuckin white haired bastard still alive, while arguably the best thing that ever happened to sarawak ended today. Don't be surprised that its business as usual pre adenan ERA thanks to abang jo being weak and fuck.
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who is abang jo?
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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Jan 11 2017, 04:50 PM)
Abg jo lean toward umno. That's why taib choose tok nan last time. I do hope non Malay/melanau become our next CM.

A big no candidate: awang tengah.
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u malay no support malay?
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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Jan 11 2017, 04:50 PM)
Abg jo lean toward umno. That's why taib choose tok nan last time. I do hope non Malay/melanau become our next CM.

A big no candidate: awang tengah.
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my friend whos father is quite close to awang tengah is literally so happy, asshole thinks hes going to get kantau, little does he know system is already in place and even the cm has to follow the system.
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QUOTE(kevinwawa @ Jan 11 2017, 04:53 PM)
u malay no support malay?
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Our Sarawak does not put race first.

Edit: I mean to say race is not the primary concern in many things. Meritocracy often triumphs race factor.

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Sigh. Malaysia loose a great leader.
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hmm good people gone too early and evil ones lives longer. RIP
hopefully his successor will be a Dayak!
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Sigh. Malaysia loose a great leader.
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u crazy?
he is bn people
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QUOTE(Jas2davir @ Jan 11 2017, 04:51 PM)
That fuckin white haired bastard still alive, while arguably the best thing that ever happened to sarawak ended today. Don't be surprised that its business as usual pre adenan ERA thanks to abang jo being weak and fuck.
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But still in the end abg jo will be elected

The end of melanau aritocrat ruling in sarawak

And the coming of umno waves from malaya that will incite panic and racial hatred esp between the majority dayak and minor muslim
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WTF?
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QUOTE(kevinwawa @ Jan 11 2017, 04:58 PM)
u crazy?
he is bn people
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theres still a few thats good
but rare breed
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WTF?
good guy never last??
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moral of the story: be evil devil.gif
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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Jan 11 2017, 04:52 PM)
after he gone, Taib come back as CM?
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Pekmo now consider royalty status, impossible he back as CM...
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QUOTE(kevinwawa @ Jan 11 2017, 04:53 PM)
u malay no support malay?
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I'm no Malay. I support brave leader like tok nan. First time I feel really sad losing a politician.
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QUOTE(TheDeadlySins420 @ Jan 11 2017, 04:57 PM)
hmm good people gone too early and evil ones lives longer. RIP
hopefully his successor will be a Dayak!
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A dayak leader is always an imaginary thing

Even myself as a dayak dont trust the current dayak leader

Long as the alcohol and bigotry championing the lives of a dayak, a dayak CM would be just a dream
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QUOTE(blueblueoutofblue @ Jan 11 2017, 05:03 PM)
Pekmo now consider royalty status, impossible he back as CM...
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he's enjoying his current low profile status
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I believe since yesterday UMNO camp already meeting to discuss who should be the next CM..

Hopefully PekMo will do something..

But UMNO camp already learn the last mistake that their plan was derail by PeKmO by announcing Adenan as CM...

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QUOTE(edministrator @ Jan 11 2017, 05:07 PM)
he's enjoying his current low profile status
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Indeed he is now...

We will see in next few days after Almarhum Adenan funeral complete..

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Sarawak berkabung 7 hari bermula esok

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Kerajaan Sarawak mengumumkan tempoh berkabung tujuh hari bermula esok sebagai menghormati kematian Ketua Menteri, Tan Sri Adenan Satem.

Timbalan Ketua Menteri, Datuk Abang Johari Abang Openg, berkata sepanjang tempoh itu, bendera negeri akan dikibarkan separuh tiang, manakala semua acara rasmi ditangguhkan.

Seiring kedudukannya Allahyarham sebagai pemimpin yang banyak berjasa, beliau berkata, majlis pengebumian negeri akan diadakan esok.

"Jenazah Tan Sri Adenan akan dibawa dari kediamannya di Damai Jaya, Santubong ke Masjid Jamek Negeri, Petra Jaya untuk majlis penghormatan terakhir oleh rakyat dan kenamaan pada jam 10.30 pagi.

"Jenazah akan disembahyangkan sebelum dikebumikan di Tanah Perkuburan Islam Samariang, Petra Jaya selepas solat Zuhur," katanya pada sidang media di sini, sebentar tadi.

Hadir sama Timbalan Ketua Menteri, Datuk Douglas Uggah Embas dan Setiausaha Kerajaan Negeri, Tan Sri Morshidi Abdul Ghani.

Abang Johari turut menyifatkan kematian Adenan sebagai kehilangan besar kepada negeri dan negara, lebih-lebih lagi Allahyarham sarat dengan pengalaman.

"Allahyarham mengamalkan konsep kesederhanaan tetapi tegas memperjuangkan prinsipnya. Sarawak ada dalam jiwanya manakala Allahyarham adalah pemimpin yang amat dekat di hati rakyat," katanya.

http://www.bharian.com.my/node/233215
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QUOTE(kepong87 @ Jan 11 2017, 04:47 PM)
They can't do much as long as Christian still the majority.

They can't hurt the non muslim feelings like they do in semenanjung.
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Wasn't Sabah was also muslim minority state?

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QUOTE(TreyLey @ Jan 11 2017, 04:58 PM)
But still in the end abg jo will be elected

The end of melanau aritocrat ruling in sarawak

And the coming of umno waves from malaya that will incite panic and racial hatred esp between the majority dayak and minor muslim
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Some say wahab dollah could be the dark horse for next CM. Taib's protege. Michael toyad also in the mix iinm. Rumours said he convert to Muslim for the post last time. And yes, Both melanau.
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u crazy?
he is bn people
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He told his stuff who gave lots of excuses why they can't do their job during the meeting he had regarding coast line defends against intruders, "You better do your job, you want to become like Sabah?".

And he is vocal about alot of stuff in WM which what he said are all sensible. This is what a leader should be. Not those sampah rubbish minister who ask you to stay in the moon or bocor here and there. He has my respect, irregardless of where he sides. And this good CM makes it very hard for Sarawak to sway away from him, hence very hard to sway away from BN.

I believe it is a great loss to the nation.
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not all BN ppl are bad
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He is one of the very few BN people that is good.
Sigh.. the good one either die early or lose their job early.
Ong Tee Keat - lose job early.
Micheal Chong / Tengku Razali - never have high position
YB Tan Sri Adenen - RIP.
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A dayak leader is always an imaginary thing

Even myself as a dayak dont trust the current dayak leader

Long as the alcohol and bigotry championing the lives of a dayak, a dayak CM would be just a dream
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Douglas Uggah just appointed
lets see how it goes

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Jan 11 2017, 06:47 PM)
can you give it your bodo campaigning a rest dulu boleh tak ? org meninggal la
not surprised even Sarawak dap will be saddened by adenan's passing but you... nothing but a little worm
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he only one meh?

no replacement ah?

u telling me all the politician in Sarawak not capable?
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he only one meh?

no replacement ah?

u telling me all the politician in Sarawak not capable?
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He told his stuff who gave lots of excuses why they can't do their job during the meeting he had regarding coast line defends against intruders, "You better do your job, you want to become like Sabah?".

And he is vocal about alot of stuff in WM which what he said are all sensible. This is what a leader should be. Not those sampah rubbish minister who ask you to stay in the moon or bocor here and there. He has my respect, irregardless of where he sides. And this good CM makes it very hard for Sarawak to sway away from him, hence very hard to sway away from BN.

I believe it is a great loss to the nation.
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Indeed. He knows his state is an important FD for bn, he's not gonna be Malayan's toy boy that easily.

He is undeniably a better choice than opposition. Don't see forget there was a few seats where opposition contest at the same time, that was just stupid as hell, PAS too was contesting on their own. Sorry, can't blame sarawakian for not choosing those clowns that can't get their act together.
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Jan 11 2017, 05:43 PM)
Indeed. He knows his state is an important FD for bn, he's not gonna be Malayan's toy boy that easily.

He is undeniably a better choice than opposition. Don't see forget there was a few seats where opposition contest at the same time, that was just stupid as hell, PAS too was contesting on their own. Sorry, can't blame sarawakian for not choosing those clowns that can't get their act together.
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The good ones die early. Meanwhile some one is still in Aussie holiday-ing? Buy bags cincin?
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Bila west malaysian bercakap
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I am orang Malaya. sure I happy get medal
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hmm good people gone too early and evil ones lives longer. RIP
hopefully his successor will be a Dayak!
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nothing has changed with a dead adenan.

bijan's had screwed us left right top bottom front rear.
and still is screwing us left right top bottom front rear.
and will keep screwing us left right top bottom front rear.

i guess another jet trip in the air?
this time to sarawak.

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QUOTE(TreyLey @ Jan 11 2017, 05:04 PM)
A dayak leader is always an imaginary thing

Even myself as a dayak dont trust the current dayak leader

Long as the alcohol and bigotry championing the lives of a dayak, a dayak CM would be just a dream
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RIP. guy may be a part of BN, but his hard ass rule kept them idiots from west Malaysia from coming in and fuck up sarawaks multicultural and multiethnic community.

Heck, its thx to leaders like him that non Muslims can share a table with non muslims during lunch together, even if non muslims are eating stuff thats non halal or haram ,without being called out by religious bigots like in the west.
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RIP.  guy may be a part of BN,  but his hard ass rule kept them idiots from west Malaysia from coming in and fuck up sarawaks multicultural and multiethnic community.

Heck, its thx to leaders like him that non Muslims can share a table with non muslims during lunch together, even if non muslims are eating stuff thats non halal or haram ,without being called out by religious bigots like in the west.
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QUOTE(xenogearz88 @ Jan 11 2017, 06:22 PM)
RIP.  guy may be a part of BN,  but his hard ass rule kept them idiots from west Malaysia from coming in and fuck up sarawaks multicultural and multiethnic community.

Heck, its thx to leaders like him that non Muslims can share a table with non muslims during lunch together, even if non muslims are eating stuff thats non halal or haram ,without being called out by religious bigots like in the west.
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totally agree
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Since when does it matter wut race holds the cm post as long he or she's a Sarawakian? Dont take the bait thrown around by ppl from the other side.

Its just becos of BN's core is racial based that component parties need to toe in the line.

Hopeful the day will come that Sarawak and Sabah restores its full secular status.
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U mean it still hasn't? They voted for Biyen, right?
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Damn typo.

I meant non muslim sharing a table with muslims, even if nons are eating haram stuff.
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rip n condolences to the family

n here i thought he will open the floodgate that will empowers ppl of borneo... sarawak lost a great leader today
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QUOTE(TreyLey @ Jan 11 2017, 05:04 PM)
A dayak leader is always an imaginary thing

Even myself as a dayak dont trust the current dayak leader

Long as the alcohol and bigotry championing the lives of a dayak, a dayak CM would be just a dream
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So must race be a criteria for heading the CM post?
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His election campaign speeches were hilarious if u can understand the dialect.


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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Jan 11 2017, 05:11 PM)
Wasn't Sabah was also muslim minority state?
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After project ic, muslim is the majority in sabah now.
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Al Fatihah.
Truly a great leader.
Even me feels so sad.
If I'm singing Ibu Pertiwiku, surely I can't hold my tears.

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QUOTE(coklatua @ Jan 11 2017, 06:48 PM)
Al Fatihah.
Truly a great leader.
Even me feels so sad.
If I'm singing Ibu Pertiwiku, surely I can't hold my tears.
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QUOTE(coklatua @ Jan 11 2017, 06:48 PM)
Al Fatihah.
Truly a great leader.
Even me feels so sad.
If I'm singing Ibu Pertiwiku, surely I can't hold my tears.
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QUOTE(NGT1137 @ Jan 11 2017, 06:18 PM)
Now Bijan can put his yes man on the helm.
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I think everyone is thinking this.

What IF all your multi racial harmony is GONE by Bijan next YES MAN replacing Satem?

how how?
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he only one meh?

no replacement ah?

u telling me all the politician in Sarawak not capable?
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Hate to admit. But yeah, can't see any candidate with huge potential to fill his shoes.

Might end up with pek moh retake the CM post.
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Ada si bodoh kat semenanjung raikan kematian Adenan.
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It is a good thing to happen at Right time, this will pave way for UNMO to enter Sarawak politics
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see how many mosque vs how many church
u can already see who is still majority
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Hate to admit. But yeah, can't see any candidate with huge potential to fill his shoes.

Might end up with pek moh retake the CM post.
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walao so little confidence in other Sarawak leaders.

Have you all realized that he was 73 years old? Even had he been alive, he would not be able to go on forever.
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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Jan 11 2017, 07:44 PM)
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Taib and Adenan also Muslim

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If Indonesia can have Christian Governor, Maybe East Malaysia can have 1 as well.

You guys over there should do some changes.
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QUOTE(Rand @ Jan 11 2017, 08:01 PM)
Don't forget... Taib is still around. Not so easy for umno to get in.
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but problem is, as long as BN win in Sarawak, UMNO also win.

And as long as umno win, there is really no racial or religious harmony.

Just look at the sort of people defending ajip,...like Jamal. They cause cancer mindset wherever they go.

You'll get the idea.
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QUOTE(Rand @ Jan 11 2017, 08:01 PM)
Don't forget... Taib is still around. Not so easy for umno to get in.
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Why u guys like taib and his gang? Bulldoze balak tree whole negeri not enough?
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We all hate Taib. But we hate umno more.

Arguably one of the only good things he did was keeping umno out.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 11 2017, 08:11 PM)
but problem is, as long as BN win in Sarawak, UMNO also win.

And as long as umno win, there is really no racial or religious harmony.

Just look at the sort of people defending ajip,...like Jamal. They cause cancer mindset wherever they go.

You'll get the idea.
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Yeah.. thats the truth as well. It was hard to vote for opposition knowing all the good that adenan was doing. Perhaps it will be easier to now.
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State and federal election arent the same. State we support Adenan and federal we want BN out. The only problem is that too many blind ppl voted BN for parliament.


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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 11 2017, 07:58 PM)
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You guys over there should do some changes.
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we already had native leaders as CM prior to taib mahmud.

we had no qualms with the race/religion of our CM. why do u have to focus too much on the race/religious side of things? even the chinese and hardcore DAP supporters here respect Adenan without taking into consideration his race/religion/background.
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Jan 11 2017, 07:25 PM)
Since when does it matter wut race holds the cm post as long he or she's a Sarawakian? Dont take the bait thrown around by ppl from the other side.

Its just becos of BN's core is racial based that component parties need to toe in the line.

Hopeful the day will come that Sarawak and Sabah restores its full secular status.
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Its just that in Peninsular, non Malays holding the positions of Head Minister / Chief Ministers are only but a more recent thing. Its not like In Sabah and Sarawak where such things have happened way before.

The thing is, right now, there are already signs of infighting. The best CM for Sarawakians is a CM that's Sarawak-centric.


That's why you see all news outlets are quoting Abang Johari. Borneo based news are reporting from other sources (not just zooming in from a certain person's announcements). That's how certain quarters want to paint the picture. Sarawak at this hour already has an acting CM, but for some reason(s), all quotes are sourced to another person, not the acting CM.

Just like you said, there's a bait, and hopefully Sarawakians make the better choice.


Already cybertroopers here are hoo-haa-ing that Abang Johari is going to be the CM. Peninsular are VERY desperate to have Abang Johari to be the CM. Only they will know why.
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Rip... he was a great leader and great man. Such a waste that Sarawak lost him. If only he could be CM at an earlier age.

He is a few who dare to fight federal. He is a visionary man. He really fought for sawawakians. Reject hudud, make english official, accept uec, and many more, are his legacy.

This post i dedicate to tan sri adenan satem. A man who dare to correct the past.
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QUOTE(issit! @ Jan 11 2017, 10:54 PM)
keeping umno out..but bn in?

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Look, it's simple really.
Over at West you have your boogieman card that BN like to play. Cina la, yahudi la. Over at Sarawak same modus operandi really, except boogie man is UMNO la, West Malaysia lah.
Truth is in Sarawak businesses are controlled by a select few. And this select few don't like competition from outside because they like the easy monopoly they have. So out comes the boogie man card. With nobody questioning the logic of it. If UMNO come who will vote for it? If West businesses open here, wouldn't new jobs be created? The only one that suffers is the old order.
Unfortunately sarawakians too thick to realize really. They're no different from the kampung UMNO, they want to feel proud over trivial stuff like can make largest bubur pedas or whatever.
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u make so much sense........ i will carry on belittling them.

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Rip... he was a great leader and great man. Such a waste that Sarawak lost him. If only he could be CM at an earlier age.

He is a few who dare to fight federal. He is a visionary man. He really fought for sawawakians. Reject hudud, make english official, accept uec, and many more, are his legacy.

This post i dedicate to tan sri adenan satem. A man who dare to correct the past.
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apparently, they are willing to support it now
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QUOTE(issit! @ Jan 11 2017, 11:21 PM)
last last they angry with semenanjung for stealing their oil revenues.

lmao.
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The sort of people who don't even realize they kena pusing and still proud of it. If federal give them bridges and roads they happy liaw even though so many roads and buildings economy still macam sampah because can't compete and refuse to let others join the fray.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sarawakian. But when your people are stupid, they're stupid. It is the way it is. Let them call me traitor la, whatever suits their kampung ego.
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putting all those songlap aside
one thing why west malaysian admire Adenan is because he speaks with sense
like reject hudud,mcd halal cake,use of Allah word
these are some issues which are really important to have a leader to speak and decide firmly

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Look, it's simple really.
Over at West you have your boogieman card that BN like to play. Cina la, yahudi la. Over at Sarawak same modus operandi really, except boogie man is UMNO la, West Malaysia lah.
Truth is in Sarawak businesses are controlled by a select few. And this select few don't like competition from outside because they like the easy monopoly they have. So out comes the boogie man card. With nobody questioning the logic of it. If UMNO come who will vote for it? If West businesses open here, wouldn't new jobs be created? The only one that suffers is the old order.
Unfortunately sarawakians too thick to realize really. They're no different from the kampung UMNO, they want to feel proud over trivial stuff like can make largest bubur pedas or whatever.
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Reminds me of our so call hero "PC Image". LOL Pikom kena haram cos of .... them
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Jan 11 2017, 11:15 PM)
Look, it's simple really.
Over at West you have your boogieman card that BN like to play. Cina la, yahudi la. Over at Sarawak same modus operandi really, except boogie man is UMNO la, West Malaysia lah.
Truth is in Sarawak businesses are controlled by a select few. And this select few don't like competition from outside because they like the easy monopoly they have. So out comes the boogie man card. With nobody questioning the logic of it. If UMNO come who will vote for it? If West businesses open here, wouldn't new jobs be created? The only one that suffers is the old order.
Unfortunately sarawakians too thick to realize really. They're no different from the kampung UMNO, they want to feel proud over trivial stuff like can make largest bubur pedas or whatever.
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Some truth, the rest mostly crap.

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Reminds me of our so call hero "PC Image". LOL Pikom kena haram cos of .... them
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Most businesses here are like that, there's only a few in control of it all really. That's why we don't have much choice.
So I really disagree with things like s4s, why are we protecting these "rights" when fact is they're abused by a select few? Has immigration control ever helped us get a proper paying job? No. Because we still have to work for the same few people. You ever noticed the s4s people driving around in luxury SUV? Will someone in a ninja king fight for the common people?
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Some truth, the rest mostly crap.
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Which rest, elaborate. Otherwise don't talk crap.
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Which rest, elaborate. Otherwise don't talk crap.
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"If UMNO come who will vote for it? If West businesses open here, wouldn't new jobs be created?"

And how is West businesses going to be better at creating jobs than existing businesses?

And how do you know their objective is creating jobs rather than maximizing their profits?

Petronas was employing mostly West Malaysians until Adenan told them to stop it.

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QUOTE(hown @ Jan 11 2017, 11:55 PM)
putting all those songlap aside
one thing why west malaysian admire Adenan is because he speaks with sense
like reject hudud,mcd halal cake,use of Allah word
these are some issues which are really important to have a leader to speak and decide firmly
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These issues, does sarawakian really care? Or do they think if they don't protest it then suddenly UMNO enforce all this on us. And then sarawakian pissed off and vote BN off?
It's non issues. West Malaysia never bothered about it here. PM probably had a laugh with the late Adenan Satem while chatting in Putrajaya.
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QUOTE(howszat @ Jan 12 2017, 12:07 AM)
"If UMNO come who will vote for it? If West businesses open here, wouldn't new jobs be created?"

And how is West businesses going to be better at creating jobs than existing businesses?

And how do you know their objective is creating jobs rather than maximizing their profits?

Petronas was employing mostly West Malaysians until Adenan told them to stop it.
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You've really bought into the whole shebang eh.
Should I give you a basic lesson in economics? They come, more jobs. Better economy. More competitive market, and by default job market. You think people open business don't need to hire workers kah? You think west Malaysian companies that stupid to bring their own people and the higher costs in?
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These issues, does sarawakian really care? Or do they think if they don't protest it then suddenly UMNO enforce all this on us. And then sarawakian pissed off and vote BN off?
It's non issues. West Malaysia never bothered about it here. PM probably had a laugh with the late Adenan Satem while chatting in Putrajaya.
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Don't be stupid. Your arguments are from the point of whether Sarawakian cares or not. You are not the appointed spokesman for Sarawakians.

Try something else, like specific reasons why or why not.




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You've really bought into the whole shebang eh.
Should I give you a basic lesson in economics? They come, more jobs. Better economy. More competitive market, and by default job market. You think people open business don't need to hire workers kah? You think west Malaysian companies that stupid to bring their own people and the higher costs in?
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Stupid answer.

Very little to do with economics. Mostly to do with politics.

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Don't be stupid. Your arguments are from the point of whether Sarawakian cares or not. You are not the appointed spokesman for Sarawakians.

Try something else, like specific reasons why or why not.
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You missed the point. The point is, we don't care about these issues. Do you? Or have you forgot how many times Sarawakian laugh when the halal issue or whatnot comes up. We don't give a toss, period. Or are you saying we're as sensitive as west Malaysian now?
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apparently, they are willing to support it now
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Such a shame. Dark days ahead for sarawakian. Hope sarawakian stays united upholds adenan's ideals. Dont be fallen like sabah.
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Jan 12 2017, 12:07 AM)
These issues, does sarawakian really care? Or do they think if they don't protest it then suddenly UMNO enforce all this on us. And then sarawakian pissed off and vote BN off?
It's non issues. West Malaysia never bothered about it here. PM probably had a laugh with the late Adenan Satem while chatting in Putrajaya.
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laugh or not
still better than MCA Gerakan here keep quiet still expecting us to vote for them lah
Sarawakian cares actually,especially hudud bill
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You missed the point. The point is, we don't care about these issues. Do you? Or have you forgot how many times Sarawakian laugh when the halal issue or whatnot comes up. We don't give a toss, period. Or are you saying we're as sensitive as west Malaysian now?
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I am saying you are speaking for the whole of Sarawak, and that's rubbish. Hint: you can stop saying "we".

Speak for yourself, and argue the reasons.

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Stupid answer.

Very little to do with economics. Mostly to do with politics.
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Lol dude, you don't know what you're saying simple as that. One day you'll wake up and see things for what they really are. When your children has to scrape by on 3000 salary with a degree in the year 2030 because nobody but shin yang would hire them at that price. And the wealth from the previous generation all sponged up by the Ling and Tings
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QUOTE(howszat @ Jan 12 2017, 12:17 AM)
I am saying you are speaking for the whole of Sarawak, and that's rubbish. Hint: you can stop saying "we".

Speak for yourself, and argue the reasons.
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Sarawakians love to say how harmonious they are. How the racism issues in the West has never bothered them. That they wouldn't be like that. That they're tolerant.
Is that true now, or a lie?
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laugh or not
still better than MCA Gerakan here keep quiet still expecting us to vote for them lah
Sarawakian cares actually,especially hudud bill
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DAP cares. The man on the street doesn't give a shit. It's just a scare tactic. Ain't never happening here. BN would never risk pissing off its FD by such stupid moves.

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Lol dude, you don't know what you're saying simple as that. One day you'll wake up and see things for what they really are. When your children has to scrape by on 3000 salary with a degree in the year 2030 because nobody but shin yang would hire them at that price. And the wealth from the previous generation all sponged up by the Ling and Tings
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One day you will wake and realize you are an idealistic, and West Malaysia companies coming will not solve the problems you naively believe they will.

They may have some effect, but they will not make the massive changes you are implying.

Apart from saying Shing Yang, why don't you come up with more concrete examples?

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Jan 12 2017, 12:20 AM)
DAP cares. The man on the street doesn't give a shit. It's just a scare tactic. Ain't never happening here. BN would never risk pissing off its FD by such stupid moves.
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Now you are being ridiculous. DAP cares?

That's bullshit. DAP is full of people who are out to create mischief and opposition. They do very, very little in the way of constructive opposition.

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QUOTE(howszat @ Jan 12 2017, 12:21 AM)
One day you will wake and realize you are an idealistic, and West Malaysia companies coming will not solve the problems you naively believe they will.

They may have some effect, but they will not make the massive changes you are implying.

Apart from saying Shing Yang, why don't you come up with more concrete examples?
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Is shin yang not concrete enough for you? Do you know how many industries they control? What do you want then?
West Malaysian companies would bring much needed competition, raising standards. The real reason many Sarawakian businessmen don't like the idea is just that. They've no incentive to be competitive otherwise. Pay you peanuts, then sell you something expensive. A job seeker would however see increased chances at employment. Do you know how many sarawakians have left in search of work? KL is chock full of them.
What massive change are you talking about? What idealism? Don't project. The best for us would be to match Penang's economy or close. In fact, anything is better than this current dead economy.
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QUOTE(howszat @ Jan 12 2017, 12:24 AM)
Now you are being ridiculous. DAP cares?

That's bullshit. DAP is full of people who are out to create mischief and opposition. They do very, very little in the way of constructive opposition.
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Yep. They're full of crap. Hence the scare tactics. Ooh look UMNO wants hudud. Ooh look BN wants to remove Chinese schools. Sounds familiar?
It's exactly that. Scare tactics. And again, is BN that dumb. You can say what you like about them, but fact is they've been in power for so long. And it's not by luck.
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Whatever kind of a person he was, Msia has been doomed bcs BN still rules, due to majority votes that came from Sarawak. Sarawakians just don't realize that. Feel KL/Selangor people's pain. It's unbearable
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QUOTE(howszat @ Jan 12 2017, 12:24 AM)
Now you are being ridiculous. DAP cares?

That's bullshit. DAP is full of people who are out to create mischief and opposition. They do very, very little in the way of constructive opposition.
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You are ignorant.

Really.

If DAP isn't doing any ministry work, people will know.

Just stop your propaganda lah. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Jan 12 2017, 12:20 AM)
DAP cares. The man on the street doesn't give a shit. It's just a scare tactic. Ain't never happening here. BN would never risk pissing off its FD by such stupid moves.
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better be safe than never
it's good to have someone to fight against jakim ridiculous policy,and this is Adenan
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Its just that in Peninsular, non Malays holding the positions of Head Minister / Chief Ministers are only but a more recent thing. Its not like In Sabah and Sarawak where such things have happened way before.

The thing is, right now, there are already signs of infighting. The best CM for Sarawakians is a CM that's Sarawak-centric.
That's why you see all news outlets are quoting Abang Johari. Borneo based news are reporting from other sources (not just zooming in from a certain person's announcements). That's how certain quarters want to paint the picture. Sarawak at this hour already has an acting CM, but for some reason(s), all quotes are sourced to another person, not the acting CM.


Just like you said, there's a bait, and hopefully Sarawakians make the better choice.
Already cybertroopers here are hoo-haa-ing that Abang Johari is going to be the CM. Peninsular are VERY desperate to have Abang Johari to be the CM. Only they will know why.
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I noticed that too...


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better be safe than never
it's good to have someone to fight against jakim ridiculous policy,and this is Adenan
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I can't say much without being disrespectful to the deceased. So let's just leave it.
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Jan 12 2017, 12:36 AM)
Is shin yang not concrete enough for you? Do you know how many industries they control? What do you want then?
West Malaysian companies would bring much needed competition, raising standards. The real reason many Sarawakian businessmen don't like the idea is just that. They've no incentive to be competitive otherwise. Pay you peanuts, then sell you something expensive. A job seeker would however see increased chances at employment. Do you know how many sarawakians have left in search of work? KL is chock full of them.
What massive change are you talking about? What idealism? Don't project. The best for us would be to match Penang's economy or close. In fact, anything is better than this current dead economy.
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I am aware that Sarawakians have left in search of work.

They pay peanuts, people leave. So they can't hire people they want. So they don't get the work done. Is that the case?

Sell you something expensive? Well you can buy online. overseas, etc.

As I said earlier, some of your points are valid. And what I meant by idealism is "letting West Malaysian businesses in" is not going to solve all your problems, because most of them are already here, think banks, supermarkets, business franchises etc.

And can you list the ones that want to be in, but NOT allowed in?

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Whatever kind of a person he was, Msia has been doomed bcs BN still rules, due to majority votes that came from Sarawak. Sarawakians just don't realize that. Feel KL/Selangor people's pain. It's unbearable
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Some people worry about the future. Some people can't think beyond what to have for lunch.
Some people call it relaxed. Some people see it as lazy.
Some people never tasted good food. So they think junk tastes delicious.

Know what I mean?
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You are ignorant.

Really.

If DAP isn't doing any ministry work, people will know.

Just stop your propaganda lah.  rolleyes.gif
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No, not ignorant.

You are stupid. DAP is doing propaganda work, and they get voted in because they voice people's frustration.

Ministry work? Maybe, but not where I am.

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No, not ignorant.

You are stupid. DAP is doing propaganda work, and they get voted in because they voice people's frustration.

Ministry work? Maybe, but not where I am.
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DAP is doing more ministry work more than all your believed propaganda combined.

The reason you don't know is because you're ignorant.

Malas want to argue with you if you think you're right and I'm wrong.



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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 12 2017, 12:55 AM)
DAP is doing more ministry work more than all your believed propaganda combined.

The reason you don't know is because you're ignorant.

Malas want to argue with you if you think you're right and I'm wrong.
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For goodness sake.

A political party needs to engage in politics.

I want ministry, I donate to charity.

Malas? More like complete ignorance.

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QUOTE(howszat @ Jan 12 2017, 12:48 AM)
I am aware that Sarawakians have left in search of work.

They pay peanuts, people leave. So they can't hire people they want. So they don't get the work done. Is that the case?

Sell you something expensive? Well you can buy online. overseas, etc.

As I said earlier, some of your points are valid. And what I meant by idealism is "letting West Malaysian businesses in" is not going to solve all your problems, because most of them are already here, think banks, supermarkets, business franchises etc.

And can you list the ones that want to be in, but NOT allowed in?
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They can't hire people they want? What do they care if sarawakians refuse to work for peanuts? They just hire foreigners. They control immigration after all. Them points am I right.
And it is with this points that they are abusing to the max. Letting in whoever benefits them, shutting out direct competition in the guise of "protecting Sarawak". Protecting Mr. Monopoly's business more like. Ever wondered why a lot of franchise items here more expensive than it's counterparts in the West?
Policies like this is stagnating the economy here. And with a stagnant economy and migrating spending power, who the heck wants to come here anymore. You see the vicious cycle in play?
I don't know what the future would be. It's enough to know present policies will destroy us.

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They can't hire people they want? What do they care if sarawakians refuse to work for peanuts? They just hire foreigners. They control immigration after all. Them points am I right.
And it is with this points that they are abusing to the max. Letting in whoever benefits them, shutting out direct competition in the guise of "protecting Sarawak". Protecting Mr. Monopoly's business more like. Ever wondered why a lot of franchise items here more expensive than it's counterparts in the West?
Policies like this is stagnating the economy here. And with a stagnant economy and migrating spending power, who the heck wants to come here anymore. You see the vicious cycle in play?
I don't know what the future would be. It's enough to know present policies will destroy us.
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You are speculating about:

- hire foreigners. You have facts? How many, what percentage? Do you actually know how hard it is to get non-Sarawakians into Sarawak? (I suspect you dont')
- more expensive? Is Starbucks more expensive? I don't know. How do you plan to make Starbucks cheaper? Why don't people just go to kopitiam?
- shutting out direct competition - can you name a few?

Can you provide more information?



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You are speculating about:

- hire foreigners. You have facts? How many, what percentage? Do you actually know how hard it is to get non-Sarawakians into Sarawak? (I suspect you dont')
- more expensive? Is Starbucks more expensive? I don't know. How do you plan to make Starbucks cheaper? Why don't people just go to kopitiam?
- shutting out direct competition - can you name a few?

Can you provide more information?
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Do you know, we have North Koreans working in our coal mines.
Ever been to a construction site?
Among others. Immigration is hard for small fish perhaps, but nothing for those who "matter". Just a phone call away. You find it hard? Sorry, you're just not connected enough. Not like there's a process or whatever, it's all at the discretion of someone too.
I don't want cheaper, I want equal get it. Instead of protectionism policies.
Did you ever try to tender for a government contract? Only to find out you can't fulfil it because the supply chain is controlled by a large corporation who would price supplies unreasonably to you and you have no options as they control the material? In the end you have to give them the contract and sub from them at a fraction of what you could have earned? This is local. West Malaysian? Just outright reject or close applications to them, reserved for Sarawakians.

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Jan 12 2017, 01:21 AM)
Do you know, we have North Koreans working in our coal mines.
Ever been to a construction site?
Among others. Immigration is hard for small fish perhaps, but nothing for those who "matter". Just a phone call away. You find it hard? Sorry, you're just not connected enough. Not like there's a process or whatever, it's all at the discretion of someone too.
I don't want cheaper, I want equal get it. Instead of protectionism policies.
Did you ever try to tender for a government contract? Only to find out you can't fulfil it because the supply chain is controlled by a large corporation who would price supplies unreasonably to you and you have no options as they control the material? In the end you have to give them the contract and sub from them at a fraction of what you could have earned? This is local. West Malaysian? Just outright reject or close applications to them, reserved for Sarawakians.
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But previously, you were arguing that those who got paid "peanuts" could come in.

Now you agree it's hard for small fish, and twisted your argument into "not connected enough".

Pointless to argue about all your other rubbish points, because you are dishonest and keep changing your arguments.

You really need to learn HONESTY, and not keeping changing twisting your arguments.

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QUOTE(howszat @ Jan 12 2017, 01:28 AM)
But previously, you were arguing that those who got paid "peanuts" could come in.

Now you agree it's hard for small fish, and twisted your argument into "not connected enough".

Pointless to argue about all your other rubbish points, because you are dishonest and keep changing your arguments.

You really need to learn HONESTY, and not keeping changing your arguments.
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Eh, your English comprehension got problem or what. Read my post again. I think you're dyslexic perhaps, why is your brain censoring some words out, even whole sentences.
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Eh, your English comprehension got problem or what. Read my post again. I think you're dyslexic perhaps, why is your brain censoring some words out, even whole sentences.
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No problem, first you claim those paid "peanuts" could come in.

Now, you claim "but nothing for those who "matter"."

Two different things.



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First you said: "What do they care if sarawakians refuse to work for peanuts? They just hire foreigners. They control immigration after all."

Then you said: "Immigration is hard for small fish perhaps, but nothing for those who "matter". Just a phone call away. You find it hard? Sorry, you're just not connected enough."

Make up your mind. They just hire foreigners, or is hard for small fish?


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No problem, first you claim those paid "peanuts" could come in.

Now, you claim "but nothing for those who "matter"."

Two different things.
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When has anyone said that. Like I said, read again.
I really think you should improve your English. If you have trouble understanding such a simple sentence. Ask anyone.
You seem to think this is an argument. Where there is a winner and a loser. And yet up to now I have no idea what you want apart from to say I'm wrong by hook or by crook. You got too much free time?
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QUOTE(howszat @ Jan 12 2017, 01:36 AM)
First you said: "What do they care if sarawakians refuse to work for peanuts? They just hire foreigners. They control immigration after all."

Then you said: "Immigration is hard for small fish perhaps, but nothing for those who "matter". Just a phone call away. You find it hard? Sorry, you're just not connected enough."

Make up your mind. They just hire foreigners, or is hard for small fish?
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Aduh. "They" refer to the big fish obviously lah. Why you have trouble keeping up with the conversation here dude
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Jan 12 2017, 01:37 AM)
When has anyone said that. Like I said, read again.
I really think you should improve your English. If you have trouble understanding such a simple sentence. Ask anyone.
You seem to think this is an argument. Where there is a winner and a loser. And yet up to now I have no idea what you want apart from to say I'm wrong by hook or by crook. You got too much free time?
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Now, the classic dishonesty.

Instead of answering the points directly, you avoided my direct questions, and do some stupid waffling about my English.

Don't change the topic - back to my points: they can just hire, or is it hard for small fish? Two different contradictory statements.

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Aduh. "They" refer to the big fish obviously lah. Why you have trouble keeping up with the conversation here dude
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Big fish work for peanuts? Are you crazy?

What makes you think that Sarawak can hire big fish for peanuts?

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Big fish work for peanuts? Are you crazy?
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My friend, I think you need to go sleep lol. And read back what you wrote in the morning. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
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I'm honest and say don't worry about me.

Whereas for the last few posts, you avoided addressing the topic directly, and tried your very best to change the topic.

That's dishonest, and you tried some pathetic comebacks.

You really need to try honesty. That's one of the important things in life.

But feel free to enlighten anyone else who's listening.

First, you said they can employ anyone for "peanut".

Then, you change your tune to "big fish".

If you don't explain, everyone can see your dishonesty.

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I'm honest and say don't worry about me.

Whereas for the last few posts, you avoided addressing the topic directly, and tried your very best to change the topic.

That's dishonest, and you tried some pathetic comebacks.

You really need to try honesty. That's one of the important things in life.
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You really need to try not being so confused. Or weird. I'd be worried if you're honest in believing what you say, you seem a special kind of delusional.
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Reminder with quotes"

First you said: "What do they care if sarawakians refuse to work for peanuts? They just hire foreigners. They control immigration after all."

Then you said: "Immigration is hard for small fish perhaps, but nothing for those who "matter". Just a phone call away. You find it hard? Sorry, you're just not connected enough."

Make up your mind. They just hire foreigners, or is hard for small fish?


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You really need to try not being so confused. Or weird. I'd be worried if you're honest in believing what you say, you seem a special kind of delusional.
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Please answer the question. Is it hard for small fish or not?

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da lagik sikok ya berbunyi, nang urg malaya tok carik klaie jak, iboh kau loba gilak polah polah faham giya bah. ingga ku ngga. sut palak pele kelak. lubang perut sidak tok.
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besa lh..dari election discussion yg sama perihal org srwk..neyda lain discussion mun dh 20 pages lebih
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da lagik sikok ya berbunyi, nang urg malaya tok carik klaie jak, iboh kau loba gilak polah polah faham giya bah. ingga ku ngga. sut palak pele kelak. lubang perut sidak tok.
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Hahah yala ku mls mk mlyn sidak.. skalo kta d entamnya mun mlyn dak lepeh tk.. ada sikok ya tek lu mbak bertumbok.. lewat juak eh.. kla, chaw lok.. gus ku noceng dr lyn sidak..
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guess like it wont happen liao
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Jan 12 2017, 01:36 AM)
Is shin yang not concrete enough for you? Do you know how many industries they control? What do you want then?
West Malaysian companies would bring much needed competition, raising standards. The real reason many Sarawakian businessmen don't like the idea is just that. They've no incentive to be competitive otherwise. Pay you peanuts, then sell you something expensive. A job seeker would however see increased chances at employment. Do you know how many sarawakians have left in search of work? KL is chock full of them.
What massive change are you talking about? What idealism? Don't project. The best for us would be to match Penang's economy or close. In fact, anything is better than this current dead economy.
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You know, as much flak Shin Yang gets, they're the only one of the very few heavyweights that could actually do work. Not waiting to be fed. Initially a large part of the Pan Borneo projects in Sarawak would have been fully-subcontracted to west Malaysian companies. If it wasn't for certain figures, no Sarawakian companies would have gottten a direct contract. Even now, most, if not many are "sub contractors" with the fat layer being in West Malaysia. Some 'competition'.


Secondly,to a certain extent almost everything that both Sabah and Sarawak imports by sea and air routes, would have to go through Peninsular Malaysia first. NO EXCEPTIONS. Because of the cabotage policies implemented. Not even mentioning how much of "chains" needed just to transport something from somewhere in Peninsular before it even reaches the ports of Sabah and Sarawak. Sarawak has it better since they can import directly from Indonesia with a far cheaper price (Kuching is without a doubt nearer to the more developed parts of Indonesia, regardless of land or sea route). The same goes for vice versa too. Except, the ones at the chokepoints are mostly Peninsular companies.

Yes, this is the "competition". You're spiting Shin Yang, but forget that in the overall picture, the wolves and jackals are numerous that every Sarawakian companies are under the mercy of these players from Peninsular.
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You know, as much flak Shin Yang gets, they're the only one of the very few heavyweights that could actually do work. Not waiting to be fed. Initially a large part of the Pan Borneo projects in Sarawak would have been fully-subcontracted to west Malaysian companies. If it wasn't for certain figures, no Sarawakian companies would have gottten a direct contract. Even now, most, if not many are "sub contractors" with the fat layer being in West Malaysia. Some 'competition'.
Secondly,to a certain extent almost everything that both Sabah and Sarawak imports by sea and air routes, would have to go through Peninsular Malaysia first. NO EXCEPTIONS. Because of the cabotage policies implemented. Not even mentioning how much of "chains" needed just to transport something from somewhere in Peninsular before it even reaches the ports of Sabah and Sarawak. Sarawak has it better since they can import directly from Indonesia with a far cheaper price (Kuching is without a doubt nearer to the more developed parts of Indonesia, regardless of land or sea route). The same goes for vice versa too. Except, the ones at the chokepoints are mostly Peninsular companies.

Yes, this is the "competition". You're spiting Shin Yang, but forget that in the overall picture, the wolves and jackals are numerous that every Sarawakian companies are under the mercy of these players from Peninsular.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Jan 12 2017, 08:36 AM)
You know, as much flak Shin Yang gets, they're the only one of the very few heavyweights that could actually do work. Not waiting to be fed. Initially a large part of the Pan Borneo projects in Sarawak would have been fully-subcontracted to west Malaysian companies. If it wasn't for certain figures, no Sarawakian companies would have gottten a direct contract. Even now, most, if not many are "sub contractors" with the fat layer being in West Malaysia. Some 'competition'.
Secondly,to a certain extent almost everything that both Sabah and Sarawak imports by sea and air routes, would have to go through Peninsular Malaysia first. NO EXCEPTIONS. Because of the cabotage policies implemented. Not even mentioning how much of "chains" needed just to transport something from somewhere in Peninsular before it even reaches the ports of Sabah and Sarawak. Sarawak has it better since they can import directly from Indonesia with a far cheaper price (Kuching is without a doubt nearer to the more developed parts of Indonesia, regardless of land or sea route). The same goes for vice versa too. Except, the ones at the chokepoints are mostly Peninsular companies.

Yes, this is the "competition". You're spiting Shin Yang, but forget that in the overall picture, the wolves and jackals are numerous that every Sarawakian companies are under the mercy of these players from Peninsular.
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QUOTE(howszat @ Jan 12 2017, 12:57 AM)
For goodness sake.

A political party needs to engage in politics.

I want ministry, I donate to charity.

Malas? More like complete ignorance.
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If you don't believe me, if you know where is Seputeh and Taman Desa.

Ask any shopkeeper or residence there.

Ask if Theres Kok is doing her Job as a MP of that area.

You can do this and be shock that contrary to the UMNO malay popular belief, She does more for her work than politicizing.

You can do this and really find out what is the truth or

You can stay where you are as an ignorant person.


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If you don't believe me, if you know where is Seputeh and Taman Desa.

Ask any shopkeeper or residence there.

Ask if Theres Kok is doing her Job as a MP of that area.

You can do this and be shock that contrary to the UMNO malay popular belief, She does more for her work than politicizing.

You can do this and really find out what is the truth or

You can stay where you are as an ignorant person.
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Teresa Kok personally good MP. She is hardworking MP.
But sometimes, she just cakap lepas which not good for Sarawakian & Sabahan unity. There are times where she provoke them.
That's why Adenan Satem ban her travel to Sarawak & followed by Sabah.
Too much politicing is not good.

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Udah gik kelaie... Derailed abis tered tok bah... Terusuk keretapi...
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nang bena bos..lari dri topik abis tered tok.pa slh kta discuss pa na dh dpolah late Tok Nan.bak kata nya dolok "dh na patah pinggang mun drive dri kuching p miri".nektok nasib da pan borneo.org seberang xtau pok seksa kta kat swak tok.bok na maju kit swak.bkn Tok Nan da magic wand trus maju smua and tukr smua policy.
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Fenomena.

Sik pernah dengar orang Malaysia bersedih lekak dipadah "Isok cuti pok". Tok first time.

Aritok juak la first time hati rasa piluk dengar pemimpin pergi meninggalkan kita. Dari di ofis sampei ke metrocity, dalam radio gik, di jeraya, suram rasa suasana. Di facebook, twitter boh padah gik la.

Dalam ati, semua ngenang Tok Nan. Bait nya melayu ka cina ka iban ka urang melaya ka urang sabah ka dacing ka roket ka semua sama-sama bersedih. Sampei ke manusia annoying sentiasa nganok government pun nangis eh. Cayak ko? Aaa..

Selain dari ya, majoriti terpikir, sine arah tuju kita pastok? Sapa gik nak nyambong usaha Tok Nan lamak tok? Semua nampak kelam jak. Bila ditanyak, semua berik jawapan sama: "Aku sik nampak sapa dapat jadi CM pastok. Sikda yang layak."

For me, sapa pun jadi CM, sama-sama kita doakan nya mampu meneruskan perjuangan Tok Nan. Jangan terus judge.

Cuma nak madah, arap pemimpin-pemimpin sedia ada (and kita juak) dapat nangga la camne reaksi orang Sarawak kinek tok masa dengar berita pemergiannya. Tok la tanda-tanda seorang manusia ya disayang and dihormati orang ramai. Tok semua sik dapat dijual beli. You have to earn it!

Kenak nya gya? Kerana nya dekat dengan rakyat (or orang dibah).

Sik ada nya masok ofis request lif pakei nya sorang jak.

Sik ada nya berisik private jet (or pakei jet perentah) bercuti.

Sik ada nya gago nak main golf dengan obama.

Humble. Chillax. Minum kedei kopi kedak orang biasa. Tunggah Tok Nan or CM pun ok. Protokol2 mana yang sik perlu tolak tepi. Ciri-ciri tok nang orang suka (ya banyak orang share hal Tok Nan, TGNA, YDP Agong).

So arap-arap kita belajar dari fenomena tok. Jangan idup rasa kaya rasa best gilak walaupun nang kaya. Mun x kaya boh padah gik la. InsyaAllah orang hormat & sayang.

Sama-sama kita sedekahkan Al-Fatihah & berharap & berdoa, negeri kita terus sukses dan perjuangan Tok Nan bukan nya sik dilupak jak tapi diteruskan. That's the best way to honour him.
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Fenomena.

Sik pernah dengar orang Malaysia bersedih lekak dipadah "Isok cuti pok". Tok first time.

Aritok juak la first time hati rasa piluk dengar pemimpin pergi meninggalkan kita. Dari di ofis sampei ke metrocity, dalam radio gik, di jeraya, suram rasa suasana. Di facebook, twitter boh padah gik la.

Dalam ati, semua ngenang Tok Nan. Bait nya melayu ka cina ka iban ka urang melaya ka urang sabah ka dacing ka roket ka semua sama-sama bersedih. Sampei ke manusia annoying sentiasa nganok government pun nangis eh. Cayak ko? Aaa..

Selain dari ya, majoriti terpikir, sine arah tuju kita pastok? Sapa gik nak nyambong usaha Tok Nan lamak tok? Semua nampak kelam jak. Bila ditanyak, semua berik jawapan sama: "Aku sik nampak sapa dapat jadi CM pastok. Sikda yang layak."

For me, sapa pun jadi CM, sama-sama kita doakan nya mampu meneruskan perjuangan Tok Nan. Jangan terus judge.

Cuma nak madah, arap pemimpin-pemimpin sedia ada (and kita juak) dapat nangga la camne reaksi orang Sarawak kinek tok masa dengar berita pemergiannya. Tok la tanda-tanda seorang manusia ya disayang and dihormati orang ramai. Tok semua sik dapat dijual beli. You have to earn it!

Kenak nya gya? Kerana nya dekat dengan rakyat (or orang dibah).

Sik ada nya masok ofis request lif pakei nya sorang jak.

Sik ada nya berisik private jet (or pakei jet perentah) bercuti.

Sik ada nya gago nak main golf dengan obama.

Humble. Chillax. Minum kedei kopi kedak orang biasa. Tunggah Tok Nan or CM pun ok. Protokol2 mana yang sik perlu tolak tepi. Ciri-ciri tok nang orang suka (ya banyak orang share hal Tok Nan, TGNA, YDP Agong).

So arap-arap kita belajar dari fenomena tok. Jangan idup rasa kaya rasa best gilak walaupun nang kaya. Mun x kaya boh padah gik la. InsyaAllah orang hormat & sayang.

Sama-sama kita sedekahkan Al-Fatihah & berharap & berdoa, negeri kita terus sukses dan perjuangan Tok Nan bukan nya sik dilupak jak tapi diteruskan. That's the best way to honour him.
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i'll be honest, a lot of DAP work is reaching out to rural villages and giving them monetary assistance to build church, road, water and electricity from mains. But there are many kampung I gone to who dont want to accept political money bcos it comes with certain "attachments". I worked with a few pastors who refuse to take DAP money and rather do things themselves rather than become reliant on other ppl. It's just the stubborn mentality there.

Also, there's a lot of hate towards SIB by the independents, and I keep on hearing about the red tape and bureaucracy issues with that church. I think that the rough and forceful proselytizing done by SIB soured a lot of the minorities into being very suspicious of funding coming from a large organization.
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QUOTE(mohdyakup @ Jan 12 2017, 01:16 PM)
Fenomena.

Sik pernah dengar orang Malaysia bersedih lekak dipadah "Isok cuti pok". Tok first time.

Aritok juak la first time hati rasa piluk dengar pemimpin pergi meninggalkan kita. Dari di ofis sampei ke metrocity, dalam radio gik, di jeraya, suram rasa suasana. Di facebook, twitter boh padah gik la.

Dalam ati, semua ngenang Tok Nan. Bait nya melayu ka cina ka iban ka urang melaya ka urang sabah ka dacing ka roket ka semua sama-sama bersedih. Sampei ke manusia annoying sentiasa nganok government pun nangis eh. Cayak ko? Aaa..

Selain dari ya, majoriti terpikir, sine arah tuju kita pastok? Sapa gik nak nyambong usaha Tok Nan lamak tok? Semua nampak kelam jak. Bila ditanyak, semua berik jawapan sama: "Aku sik nampak sapa dapat jadi CM pastok. Sikda yang layak."

For me, sapa pun jadi CM, sama-sama kita doakan nya mampu meneruskan perjuangan Tok Nan. Jangan terus judge.

Cuma nak madah, arap pemimpin-pemimpin sedia ada (and kita juak) dapat nangga la camne reaksi orang Sarawak kinek tok masa dengar berita pemergiannya. Tok la tanda-tanda seorang manusia ya disayang and dihormati orang ramai. Tok semua sik dapat dijual beli. You have to earn it!

Kenak nya gya? Kerana nya dekat dengan rakyat (or orang dibah).

Sik ada nya masok ofis request lif pakei nya sorang jak.

Sik ada nya berisik private jet (or pakei jet perentah) bercuti.

Sik ada nya gago nak main golf dengan obama.

Humble. Chillax. Minum kedei kopi kedak orang biasa. Tunggah Tok Nan or CM pun ok. Protokol2 mana yang sik perlu tolak tepi. Ciri-ciri tok nang orang suka (ya banyak orang share hal Tok Nan, TGNA, YDP Agong).

So arap-arap kita belajar dari fenomena tok. Jangan idup rasa kaya rasa best gilak walaupun nang kaya. Mun x kaya boh padah gik la. InsyaAllah orang hormat & sayang.

Sama-sama kita sedekahkan Al-Fatihah & berharap & berdoa, negeri kita terus sukses dan perjuangan Tok Nan bukan nya sik dilupak jak tapi diteruskan. That's the best way to honour him.
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Gaduh dalam udah. Manyuh amai belah bagi. Aku cuma harap perintah baru bawah CM baru kekal kukuh. Macam nuan jaku, aku pun madah tusah mau jaku, siapa yang ulih, siapa yang layak. Tusah amai. Aku doakan semoga Sarawak kekal bebas dari segala buruk dan bertambah makmur.

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You know, as much flak Shin Yang gets, they're the only one of the very few heavyweights that could actually do work. Not waiting to be fed. Initially a large part of the Pan Borneo projects in Sarawak would have been fully-subcontracted to west Malaysian companies. If it wasn't for certain figures, no Sarawakian companies would have gottten a direct contract. Even now, most, if not many are "sub contractors" with the fat layer being in West Malaysia. Some 'competition'.
Secondly,to a certain extent almost everything that both Sabah and Sarawak imports by sea and air routes, would have to go through Peninsular Malaysia first. NO EXCEPTIONS. Because of the cabotage policies implemented. Not even mentioning how much of "chains" needed just to transport something from somewhere in Peninsular before it even reaches the ports of Sabah and Sarawak. Sarawak has it better since they can import directly from Indonesia with a far cheaper price (Kuching is without a doubt nearer to the more developed parts of Indonesia, regardless of land or sea route). The same goes for vice versa too. Except, the ones at the chokepoints are mostly Peninsular companies.

Yes, this is the "competition". You're spiting Shin Yang, but forget that in the overall picture, the wolves and jackals are numerous that every Sarawakian companies are under the mercy of these players from Peninsular.
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You're right.
Please understand though, my contention isn't with a single entity. Shin yang is just endemic of the larger problem we face. Why aren't we competitive? Why have we been left behind in progress? All this can be attributed to our political leaders, we can't just blame the west for holding us back all the time.
Sarawak is just as complicit.

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nang bena bos..lari dri topik abis tered tok.pa slh kta discuss pa na dh dpolah late Tok Nan.bak kata nya dolok "dh na patah pinggang mun drive dri kuching p miri".nektok nasib da pan borneo.org seberang xtau pok seksa kta kat swak tok.bok na maju kit swak.bkn Tok Nan da magic wand trus maju smua and tukr smua policy.
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You're right.
Please understand though, my contention isn't with a single entity. Shin yang is just endemic of the larger problem we face. Why aren't we competitive? Why have we been left behind in progress? All this can be attributed to our political leaders, we can't just blame the west for holding us back all the time.
Sarawak is just as complicit.
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I'm not going to defend Shin Yang. After all everyone knows that Shin Yang, as big as it is today, is a reminder of Taib's era where he had tendrils and arms into everywhere, everything.

If you think we can't blame the west, think hard again.

Petronas made Shell close the one and only refinery in Miri. The only one and only refinery in entire of East Malaysia (bar Brunei). Instead now they have plans for refinery in West Malaysia (and ironically they ain't even in Kelantan and Terengganu).

Petronas laid off workers. Guess what? Higher staffs are from Peninsular.


SOP (Sarawak Oil Palm) laid off workers, retained almost all peninsular staff, much to the chagrin of the laid off workers. Competence issue aside (because we all know they had to downsize), the real crux is the fact that the pie that Sarawak had is shrinking. Now if Sarawak doesn't fight toe to nail for the size, it can never grow.

There is a port in Bintulu. Ships pay RM1 million per entry. Guess who owns the port? Federal in Putrajaya. Not Kuching. The money is paid there. But the infrastructure is in Bintulu. You think locals will be content staring at those money which was rightfully Sarawak government to be taken away just like that?

The real problem was if there's a pie, its shinking in size. Worse, the percentage of the pie that used to be of Sarawak's, is now getting even smaller. Look at the Pan Borneo project. Its paid for entirely by the Sarawakians. How? By deducting the annual allocation to Sarawak. Its not even a "federal" extra-ordinary budget. Its not like Federal said "lets set aside xxyyzz billions specially for Sabahans and Sarawakians for the Pan Borneo project". And yet the HEAD of the project are those in Peninsular.

to put it bluntly in a tl;dr form:

Project Pan Borneo should have been:

- fully funded by federal govt
- headed entirely by State Government (respective sides) with their own contractors and subcontractors

instead, it is

- funded by the state govt by slashing their annual allocation by the fed
- headed by consortiums in Peninsular (based entirely in Peninsular)
- projects ran by west malaysians in all key positions. keyword: ALL
- layers and layers of fat with only bits and parts alloted to Sarawakian companies and subcontractors.

so instead of its current form; might as well do the following:

- let state govt allocate (without saying anything) from the yearly allocation
- appoint contractors locally (no peninsular companies allowed)
- appoint all locals

and you get all the benefits above, minus the fats and money transactions going to peninsular. But it didn't. Because somebody promised something and delivered entirely different. Else why would Adenan Satim voiced his grievances in the Parliament as the CM of Sarawak, and only Borneo based newspapers even bothered to report about it? Think.


If you think opening up to the peninsular is a "GREAT" move, think again. It isn't that the 'rage' against the peninsular was something that came up overnight. Its something that was already brewing way long before.

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I'm not going to defend Shin Yang. After all everyone knows that Shin Yang, as big as it is today, is a reminder of Taib's era where he had tendrils and arms into everywhere, everything.

If you think we can't blame the west, think hard again.

Petronas made Shell close the one and only refinery in Miri. The only one and only refinery in entire of East Malaysia (bar Brunei). Instead now they have plans for refinery in West Malaysia (and ironically they ain't even in Kelantan and Terengganu).

Petronas laid off workers. Guess what? Higher staffs are from Peninsular.
SOP (Sarawak Oil Palm) laid off workers, retained almost all peninsular staff, much to the chagrin of the laid off workers. Competence issue aside (because we all know they had to downsize), the real crux is the fact that the pie that Sarawak had is shrinking. Now if Sarawak doesn't fight toe to nail for the size, it can never grow.

There is a port in Bintulu. Ships pay RM1 million per entry. Guess who owns the port? Federal in Putrajaya. Not Kuching. The money is paid there. But the infrastructure is in Bintulu. You think locals will be content staring at those money which was rightfully Sarawak government to be taken away just like that?

The real problem was if there's a pie, its shinking in size. Worse, the percentage of the pie that used to be of Sarawak's, is now getting even smaller. Look at the Pan Borneo project. Its paid for entirely by the Sarawakians. How? By deducting the annual allocation to Sarawak. Its not even a "federal" extra-ordinary budget. Its not like Federal said "lets set aside xxyyzz billions specially for Sabahans and Sarawakians for the Pan Borneo project". And yet the HEAD of the project are those in Peninsular.

to put it bluntly in a tl;dr form:

Project Pan Borneo should have been:

- fully funded by federal govt
- headed entirely by State Government (respective sides) with their own contractors and subcontractors

instead, it is

- funded by the state govt by slashing their annual allocation by the fed
- headed by consortiums in Peninsular (based entirely in Peninsular)
- projects ran by west malaysians in all key positions. keyword: ALL
- layers and layers of fat with only bits and parts alloted to Sarawakian companies and subcontractors.
If you think opening up to the peninsular is a "GREAT" move, think again. It isn't that the 'rage' against the peninsular was something that came up overnight. Its something that was already brewing way long before.
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Exactly. And all this is made possible with complicit politicians on our side.
The late CM might be on the right path, but with politics in Malaysia how can one be sure it's just not part of a bigger plan against the people. Divide and conquer. Boogie man. All these are classic ruses to rile and influence the people.
I understand perfectly why Sarawakians mistrust the West, but are we sure we have our enemies right?

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Exactly. And all this is made possible with complicit politicians on our side.
The late CM might be on the right path, but with politics in Malaysia how can one be sure it's just not part of a bigger plan against the people. Divide and conquer. Boogie man. All these are classic ruses to rile and influence the people.
I understand perfectly why Sarawakians mistrust the West, but are we sure we have our enemies right?
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No. True unity lies within the people of the state.

If the state is united, they can do things on their own. Sarawak, in hindsight or in foresight, despite giving away a lot of powers to Federal, has somewhat a lot of powers within that they can freely regulate and exercise. They should do it.

Without saying much, there are ministers that are ministers for so long, but never got the nod to be the CM.
There are even other kinds of wolves and jackals waiting. Let alone the hyenas, vultures, crocs and piranhas.

A lot of the laws in Sarawak are in such a way that irregardless whatever happens to Peninsular, or Sabah, Sarawak can shape its future within Malaysia even with or without autonomy. There are a lot of connecting reasons, like the cabotage policies (which means that heavy industry can only support local industry, not meant to be exported because Sarawak exports will NEVER be competitive with the cabotage policies). Like the very recent ruling that Sarawak has the rights to use satelite TVs. Or the fact that no matter what kind of court cases, only Sarawakian based lawyers can be called upon to represent their clients.

The thing you're asking for is entirely not viable for Sarawak when Sarawak needs the protection it can to develop within.
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bena bos..na dak kt atas tok banyak glak klaka hal politik.Tok Nan dh ninggal pun x respect.mun mok buka lh tered lain.klaka kt sia.mun rsa pandei glak jd wakil tuk jd yb.mun x antar lh memo na kita x puas ati p menteri na.tok bashing ctok jak.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Jan 12 2017, 02:10 PM)
No. True unity lies within the people of the state.

If the state is united, they can do things on their own. Sarawak, in hindsight or in foresight, despite giving away a lot of powers to Federal, has somewhat a lot of powers within that they can freely regulate and exercise. They should do it.

Without saying much, there are ministers that are ministers for so long, but never got the nod to be the CM.
There are even other kinds of wolves and jackals waiting. Let alone the hyenas, vultures, crocs and piranhas.

A lot of the laws in Sarawak are in such a way that irregardless whatever happens to Peninsular, or Sabah, Sarawak can shape its future within Malaysia even with or without autonomy. There are a lot of connecting reasons, like the cabotage policies (which means that heavy industry can only support local industry, not meant to be exported because Sarawak exports will NEVER be competitive with the cabotage policies). Like the very recent ruling that Sarawak has the rights to use satelite TVs. Or the fact that no matter what kind of court cases, only Sarawakian based lawyers can be called upon to represent their clients.

The thing you're asking for is entirely not viable for Sarawak when Sarawak needs the protection it can to develop within.
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I'm talking about a larger scale here, Sarawak in Malaysia as a whole. Division, against the West.
Ask yourself honestly, what can Sarawak really do. As I said, the late Adenan sends the right message. But can he really reverse the years of decline given time? Can anyone? No, when we're sabotaged by our own kind. We're stifled by their greed. And in the end it just plays into the BN master plan.
Sarawak should stop blaming everything on the West, and look to itself to be a part of Malaysia. The West is nothing more than bad cop at this stage, manipulating Sarawak and holding their FD. Know what I mean?
Anyone who thinks that Sarawak can survive on its own isn't thinking right.
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I'm talking about a larger scale here, Sarawak in Malaysia as a whole. Division, against the West.
Ask yourself honestly, what can Sarawak really do. As I said, the late Adenan sends the right message. But can he really reverse the years of decline given time? Can anyone? No, when we're sabotaged by our own kind. We're stifled by their greed. And in the end it just plays into the BN master plan.
Sarawak should stop blaming everything on the West, and look to itself to be a part of Malaysia. The West is nothing more than bad cop at this stage, manipulating Sarawak and holding their FD. Know what I mean?
Anyone who thinks that Sarawak can survive on its own isn't thinking right.
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One thing that irks me, is that your message of BN this BN that.

This is NOT about asal bukan BN. I don't think a lot of people give two hoots which coalitions of parties. At ground level, its which leaders that they can respect and elect. At state level, who can command respect of parties, govt or opposition.

You yap about "division". Yet you spew about "asal bukan BN"-esque talks about "BN master plan", "divide and conquer".

Is it wrong for the citizens of the state to state what's right for their state?
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So must race be a criteria for heading the CM post?
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It's a human nature to be racist, it doesnt have to be a hatred racism but it covers many aspect in our lives.

Many times we discuss about that, we championing and elevate democracy as the pillar of the Constitution

But whenver it comes to elect someone to be our leader, deep inside we support our kind who has the same mutual interest as ours. It's our instinct to be that way, we were brought that way.

If not u will see an Asian become the president of USA, a pakistani leading UK presidential election and a sub saharan or tribe from the inner china steppe the next premier of China

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QUOTE(TreyLey @ Jan 12 2017, 07:52 PM)
It's a human nature to be racist, it doesnt have to be a hatred racism but it covers many aspect in our lives.

Many times we discuss about that, we championing and elevate democracy as the pillar of the Constitution

But whenver it comes to elect someone to be our leader, deep inside we support our kind who has the same mutual interest as ours. It's our instinct to be that way, we were brought that way.

If not u will see an Asian become the president of USA,  a pakistani leading UK presidential election and a sub saharan or tribe from the inner china steppe the next premier of China
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Nope, the only race is the human race. Now get that screwed in your damn head before you get purged, heretic!
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Nope, the only race is the human race. Now get that screwed in your damn head before you get purged, heretic!
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Sure the next PM of Malaysia in the next 20 years is a bangladeshi, hope he will do well
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if he's capable, why not? kau sendiri yang bodoh
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Definitely an opportunity for them to list umno dogs now.
Plenty of them in Sarawak now - all planted by umno, just waiting Pek moh to die
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I can't be sure on that. But with Pek Mo is still alive, that is actually a good thing. I hope he still have the power to influence the decision, to safeguard the state's interest, or may be his, so long as not to benefit the western government officers.
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QUOTE(mars2005 @ Jan 13 2017, 12:32 PM)
I can't be sure on that. But with Pek Mo is still alive, that is actually a good thing. I hope he still have the power to influence the decision, to safeguard the state's interest, or may be his, so long as not to benefit the western government officers.
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QUOTE(SyathibiyMegat @ Jan 12 2017, 12:41 AM)
Whatever kind of a person he was, Msia has been doomed bcs BN still rules, due to majority votes that came from Sarawak. Sarawakians just don't realize that. Feel KL/Selangor people's pain. It's unbearable
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Everyone knows how much the middle class in the country suffers. But the change will bring more harm than good to them. Recap the policies sold by the opposition if you don't know what i mean.
I would say you don't realize the consequence of sarawak if they are ruled by opposition at this time or near future. Until then, malaysia is not ready to change.

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if he's capable, why not? kau sendiri yang bodoh
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Cakap orang bodoh, good intellectual arguement, very good indeed
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Cakap orang bodoh, good intellectual arguement, very good indeed
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Racism is intellectual?
More like primitive mindset.
Congrats noob
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Racism is intellectual?
More like primitive mindset.
Congrats noob
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Flaming is intellectual indeed
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racism is the lowest, most primitive form of collectivism
go figure.

Just because you're incapable of anything beyond your primitive mindset, doesn't mean you have to make a case for it
dont geddit? I dont expect you to anyway.
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Jan 16 2017, 01:08 AM)
racism is the lowest, most primitive form of collectivism
go figure.

Just because you're incapable of anything beyond your primitive mindset, doesn't mean you have to make a case for it
dont geddit?  I dont expect you to anyway.
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Didnt expect yet expecting much by explaining much.. I get it yang bodoh
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post Jan 16 2017, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(TreyLey @ Jan 16 2017, 01:26 PM)
Didnt expect yet expecting much by explaining much.. I get it yang bodoh
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Fuck off racist jackass

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