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post Jan 8 2017, 07:27 AM, updated 9y ago

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Please help. Just move into a three-storey house and I want to know the best way to spread the wifi throughout the whole house. Thanks!

Would something like Orbi be good?

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post Jan 8 2017, 08:13 AM

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u`ll need to have a repeater on a place that didnt get the connection.. there is no one device solution

a) repeat the wifi connection (might not be great)
b) multiple hotspot (need to run cable on the house).

also suggest u to pickup the one that have 5ghz band instead of an old 2.4 ghz if u live in densed population..

u can find an example here on the vid, although he is using quite expensive device..
Pimp My Wifi - Solving Problems & Shopping at Sim Lim Square! << search on youtube.
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can you run cat6 cabling ? another option would be to transmit the signal through the power line but you need to make sure both sides are on the same electrical phase...

where is your modem going to be located?




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post Jan 8 2017, 09:18 AM

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For the best result, you would need to consider setting up access point on each floor.
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post Jan 8 2017, 09:20 AM

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Find a middle spot on the 2nd story.
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have your considered getting separate router and switch to connect to different APs?

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QUOTE(batman1172 @ Jan 8 2017, 09:20 AM)
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QUOTE(izzani94 @ Jan 8 2017, 07:27 AM)
Please help. Just move into a three-storey house and I want to know the best way to spread the wifi throughout the whole house. Thanks!

Would something like Orbi be good?
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1) a good ac wifi router for main connection
2) buy extra home with wifi capability to extend the existing wifi network to cover the entire house.

best solution.
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QUOTE(izzani94 @ Jan 8 2017, 07:27 AM)
Please help. Just move into a three-storey house and I want to know the best way to spread the wifi throughout the whole house. Thanks!

Would something like Orbi be good?
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i encounter this same problem, still haven't solved yet

tried using powerline, but diff phase cant use
tried wifi repeated, got better coverage but speed slow

the only method haven't tried yet is to route LAN cable thru the walls on each floors and setup wifi access point.
i think this method is the most stable and future proof method. especially for multiple storey building with thick walls.
this is also the most troublesome as you have to route the LAN cable, either thru the walls/ceiling
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QUOTE(izzani94 @ Jan 8 2017, 07:27 AM)
Please help. Just move into a three-storey house and I want to know the best way to spread the wifi throughout the whole house. Thanks!

Would something like Orbi be good?
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Orbi and other recent Qualcomm based consumer mesh wireless system seems promising if you don't have existing network wiring at different floor for APs, but it is still pricey. But IMO it is much better than using a single white elephant AC5300 router.
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post Jan 10 2017, 05:06 PM

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invest in wireless ac dual band router. put it in middle floor. hopefully your house less signal absorb / interference material such as thick curtains and glass door or cabinet.
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QUOTE(deadravel @ Jan 10 2017, 03:54 PM)
i encounter this same problem, still haven't solved yet

tried using powerline, but diff phase cant use
tried wifi repeated, got better coverage but speed slow

the only method haven't tried yet is to route LAN cable thru the walls on each floors and setup wifi access point.
i think this method is the most stable and future proof method. especially for multiple storey building with thick walls.
this is also the most troublesome as you have to route the LAN cable, either thru the walls/ceiling
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This.

The best is install CAT6 cable to all rooms.
Otherwise prepare to spend 1-2k on a good router.
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jan 10 2017, 10:31 PM)
This.

The best is install CAT6 cable to all rooms.
Otherwise prepare to spend 1-2k on a good router.
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i dont think even 1-2k router can pass thru those thick walls doh.gif
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QUOTE(deadravel @ Jan 10 2017, 10:33 PM)
i dont think even 1-2k router can pass thru those thick walls  doh.gif
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You'll be surprised. biggrin.gif
No full speed but at least still decent browsing speed.
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jan 10 2017, 10:36 PM)
You'll be surprised.  biggrin.gif
No full speed but at least still decent browsing speed.
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before i proceed with the drilling and access point in diff floor plan,
i will try the powerful router solution first. lol
r u using any? any to recommend?
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QUOTE(deadravel @ Jan 10 2017, 10:33 PM)
i dont think even 1-2k router can pass thru those thick walls  doh.gif
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Wifi signal had trouble penetrating metal and the slab in between floors contain a lot of steel so that's why it doesn't penetrate well.
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QUOTE(deadravel @ Jan 10 2017, 10:48 PM)
before i proceed with the drilling and access point in diff floor plan,
i will try the powerful router solution first. lol
r u using any? any to recommend?
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try getting Asus router with the hp behind the model number.

I'm using RT-N12HP. Signal very strong.

There's also RT-N14UHP with 3 long antennas. Signal even stronger.

There's also RT-AC55UHP if you want dualband.

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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Jan 10 2017, 10:54 PM)
try getting Asus router with the hp behind the model number.

I'm using RT-N12HP. Signal very strong.

There's also RT-N14UHP with 3 long antennas. Signal even stronger.

There's also RT-AC55UHP if you want dualband.
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hah. i tried n14uhp before, doesn't give better performance for me, sweat.gif
haven't tried anything AC standard yet.
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QUOTE(deadravel @ Jan 10 2017, 10:48 PM)
before i proceed with the drilling and access point in diff floor plan,
i will try the powerful router solution first. lol
r u using any? any to recommend?
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I'm using 890L. I think this router (or get something at this level) can help you. However, best if you have friend and borrow to try it first. I'll recommend Asus AC3200 though since they have a technical support thread here. Assuming you're getting three storey house there might be a lot of people too, so yeah this router. smile.gif
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QUOTE(deadravel @ Jan 10 2017, 03:54 PM)
i encounter this same problem, still haven't solved yet

tried using powerline, but diff phase cant use
tried wifi repeated, got better coverage but speed slow

the only method haven't tried yet is to route LAN cable thru the walls on each floors and setup wifi access point.
i think this method is the most stable and future proof method. especially for multiple storey building with thick walls.
this is also the most troublesome as you have to route the LAN cable, either thru the walls/ceiling
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just get a mi router or other router as repeater, currently using mi router as repeater on second floor
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jan 10 2017, 11:01 PM)
I'm using 890L. I think this router (or get something at this level) can help you. However, best if you have friend and borrow to try it first. I'll recommend Asus AC3200 though since they have a technical support thread here. Assuming you're getting three storey house there might be a lot of people too, so yeah this router.  smile.gif
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thats the problem, no ppl that have power router to borrow. have to risk my own money n buy to test. sweat.gif

QUOTE(claudetan @ Jan 10 2017, 11:03 PM)
just get a mi router or other router as repeater, currently using mi router as repeater on second floor
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setup as repeater really canot la bro. tried.
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QUOTE(deadravel @ Jan 10 2017, 11:00 PM)
hah. i tried n14uhp before, doesn't give better performance for me,  sweat.gif
haven't tried anything AC standard yet.
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wow your house must be really big. Since you mentioned the powerline thing doesn't work coz different phases, is your house set up to be 1 phase 1 floor?

Sometimes they mix it up a bit. So there might be some plugs somewhere on different floor that might have the same phase. If it works, then connect the 14uhp to the homeplug and set as wireless AP.
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post Jan 11 2017, 08:50 AM

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Setup LAN cabling to each of the floors and then setup router on each of the floor. Wifi signal does not penetrate thick walls.
You may consider setting up a switch on the ground floor your house. The switch will connect with your ISP modem or router. From switch,the LAN cables will go to the each of the router on each of the floor.
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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Jan 10 2017, 11:49 PM)
wow your house must be really big. Since you mentioned the powerline thing doesn't work coz different phases, is your house set up to be 1 phase 1 floor?

Sometimes they mix it up a bit. So there might be some plugs somewhere on different floor that might have the same phase. If it works, then connect the 14uhp to the homeplug and set as wireless AP.
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not my house actually. but then
i haven really tried ur idea, maybe some plug on diff floor may have same phase sweat.gif
so far i tried with 2 plug nearer to center of the floor, but they dont work. guess i have to try with plug in the room.

hope ur suggestion work.
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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Jan 11 2017, 08:50 AM)
Setup LAN cabling to each of the floors and then setup router on each of the floor. Wifi signal does not penetrate thick walls.
You may consider setting up a switch on the ground floor your house. The switch will connect with your ISP modem or router. From switch,the LAN cables will go to the each of the router on each of the floor.
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this is the best solution...
similar to office setup with 50 floors
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post Jan 11 2017, 06:10 PM

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tried mesh wifi? If you can wait Asus is coming out with one soon
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QUOTE(rayz85 @ Jan 11 2017, 06:10 PM)
tried mesh wifi? If you can wait Asus is coming out with one soon
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izit? dint hear any news also. link pls
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post Jan 12 2017, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(deadravel @ Jan 11 2017, 11:46 PM)
izit? dint hear any news also. link pls
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https://www.engadget.com/2017/01/04/asus-hi...ot-mesh-router/

No release date but if you're in a hurry you could always get other brands such as below from amazon

http://a.co/4VYNLdg

Seems to have good review
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post Jan 12 2017, 10:27 AM

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wow i wonder how the asus AP match up against the competition

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Good morning, everyone! I’m looking for some expert advice or suggestions from anyone who has set up a 3-storey house and figured out the best deco or setup for optimizing performance.

I understand that factors like wall materials and layout play a role, but I’d like to hear about the most effective setups that have worked for others.

Here’s my current setup with Unifi 500 Mbps:
• Ground Floor: Router connected to a TP-Link M9 Plus mesh – Speed: 500 Mbps
• 2nd Floor (Middle Hall): TP-Link M5 mesh – Speed: 100–150 Mbps
• 3rd Floor (Master Bedroom): TP-Link M5 mesh – Speed: 20–30 Mbps (sometimes even lower)

Has anyone researched or implemented a more efficient setup? I’d love to hear your insights. Thanks in advance!
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QUOTE(vineshl @ Dec 30 2024, 07:49 AM)
Good morning, everyone! I’m looking for some expert advice or suggestions from anyone who has set up a 3-storey house and figured out the best deco or setup for optimizing performance.

I understand that factors like wall materials and layout play a role, but I’d like to hear about the most effective setups that have worked for others.

Here’s my current setup with Unifi 500 Mbps:
• Ground Floor: Router connected to a TP-Link M9 Plus mesh – Speed: 500 Mbps
• 2nd Floor (Middle Hall): TP-Link M5 mesh – Speed: 100–150 Mbps
• 3rd Floor (Master Bedroom): TP-Link M5 mesh – Speed: 20–30 Mbps (sometimes even lower)

Has anyone researched or implemented a more efficient setup? I’d love to hear your insights. Thanks in advance!
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Based on my experience, if use all M9 Plus speed will be double.
Ground Floor- M9 Plus 500 Mbps
2nd Floor- M9 Plus 150-250 Mbps
3rd Floor- M9 Plus 50-100 Mbps
Maybe bcoz tri-band.

When internet already 50-100Mbps for 1 floor; enough already for home use. (Let say my wife watch 4k netflix in masterbedroom + I use 4k tv for games on 3rd floor hall+ 2-4 phones/ gadgets)@ all on 3rd floor.
Now I am on 1Gbps (due to multiple upgrade speed); not much time different also download PS5 games on 3rd floor when I had 500Mbps.
If my speed down to 20-30 Mbps (which can happen time to time), then I will feel laggy.. Mean it not enough when we use multiple gadgets

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 22 2025, 01:17 PM
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post Jan 22 2025, 05:49 PM

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I met a dude claim he is from ITD TM & he draw this & say u can do whatever with the eth wall socket each floor.

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Use Mesh wifi. It is a game changer
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QUOTE(izzani94 @ Jan 8 2017, 07:27 AM)
Please help. Just move into a three-storey house and I want to know the best way to spread the wifi throughout the whole house. Thanks!

Would something like Orbi be good?
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There are many ways to do this :-

Option A

1. If your house already have LAN cables run through each floors, then use any wifi router to configure it as AP mode.
2. Configure the SSID to be the same name & same password on each router so that Smartphone or Laptop will auto-connect to the nearest unit.


Option B

1. If your house don't have any LAN cables.
2. Purchase TP-Link MESH Wifi devices, each floor with its own unit.
3. Depending on the flooring thickness, you may need to buy extra for the "in between floor".
4. Configure the Master unit and adopt all the Slave units.
5. Special Note, each MESH unit need a power-point so you need to ensure there's an extra plug point available.


Option C

1. Lay new LAN cables to each floor's ceiling.
2. Buy TP-Link Omada series AP for each floors with PoE Adapter and mount it to each floor's ceiling.
3. All APs are to connect directly to Router.
4. Main router Wifi must be off to avoid conflicts.
5. Optional but recommended to also installed Omada SDN Application on any of the OLD/UNUSED PC, so you can have a centralized, features rich configuration & overview of your wifi network.


Hope this helps... cool2.gif

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QUOTE(vineshl @ Dec 30 2024, 07:49 AM)
Good morning, everyone! I’m looking for some expert advice or suggestions from anyone who has set up a 3-storey house and figured out the best deco or setup for optimizing performance.

I understand that factors like wall materials and layout play a role, but I’d like to hear about the most effective setups that have worked for others.

Here’s my current setup with Unifi 500 Mbps:
• Ground Floor: Router connected to a TP-Link M9 Plus mesh – Speed: 500 Mbps
• 2nd Floor (Middle Hall): TP-Link M5 mesh – Speed: 100–150 Mbps
• 3rd Floor (Master Bedroom): TP-Link M5 mesh – Speed: 20–30 Mbps (sometimes even lower)

Has anyone researched or implemented a more efficient setup? I’d love to hear your insights. Thanks in advance!
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I too have 3 storey corner house, but lucky for me the 2nd floor is where I place my 5G modem, Yeacomm sucking high speed from YES 5G.

Here's my setup :
2nd floor - Yeacomm 5G modem, telco YES, line speed 600-800 mpbs. Share out the internet using only Wifi, both 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz, with 2 SSID

Ground floor - Xiaomi AX3000 router, set up as bridge network connect to my 5 Ghz SSID from 2nd floor. Sharing out the wifi with a different set of SSID, both 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz [2.4G for smart switches, fridge, robot, air purifier]. When my mobile connect to the 5 Ghz network here, line speed 220-300 mpbs

3rd floor - Xiaomi AX1800 (well, I bought this earlier wink.gif ), set up as bridge network connect also to my 5 Ghz SSID from 2nd floor. Sharing out the wifi with the same SSID names as the ground floor, both 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz [2.4G for smart switches, fridge, robot, air purifier]. When my mobile connect to the 5 Ghz network here, line speed 150-200 mpbs. Another air purifier connect to the 2.4G network in 3rd floor. Smart TV connect to the 5G network in 3rd floor.

And my children are studying and working outstation, there is usually no one in 2nd floor. So I configured most of my TVs, HP and PC connecting to the SSID for ground floor (which is the same as 3rd floor). When I move up to 3rd floor at night, my HP will also join "the same" wifi network. No connecting loss here smile.gif

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jan 22 2025, 01:11 PM)
Based on my experience, if use all M9 Plus speed will be double.
Ground Floor- M9 Plus 500 Mbps
2nd Floor- M9 Plus 150-250 Mbps
3rd Floor- M9 Plus 50-100 Mbps
Maybe bcoz tri-band.

When internet already 50-100Mbps for 1 floor; enough already for home use. (Let say my wife watch 4k netflix in masterbedroom + I use 4k tv for games on 3rd floor hall+ 2-4 phones/ gadgets)@ all on 3rd floor.
Now I am on 1Gbps (due to multiple upgrade speed); not much time different also download PS5 games on 3rd floor when I had 500Mbps.
If my speed down to 20-30 Mbps (which can happen time to time), then I will feel laggy.. Mean it not enough when we use multiple gadgets
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i have 3 storeys too. probably you will benefit from MLO in wifi7? i have tplink deco be85 on each floor. connected via wireless uplink. even on top floor i can do 1gbps.
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QUOTE(paultantk @ Jan 23 2025, 08:18 PM)
i have 3 storeys too. probably you will benefit from MLO in wifi7? i have tplink deco be85 on each floor. connected via wireless uplink. even on top floor i can do 1gbps.
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Like I said b4; I dont care whether 500Mbps, 800Mbps or 1GBps (I use the latter bcoz free upgrade); very marginal upgrade in reality.
Maximum usage for netflix for 4k TV just up to 25Mbps only. Download PS5 games just time to time only (the different just few minutes only). If top floor get 100Mbps, I also ok already.
Most of gadgets still on Ground floor. 1Gbps is overkill for home use (even for me- 7 persons/house), I have 6 units 4k TVs.
I have wifi 7 router too (unifi free upgrade- but in reality, additional 24 months contract) but many gadgets still on wifi 6. Even PS5 (which use more data) use wifi 6. If phones (most of it already support wifi 7), 5-10Mbps speed already enough (no need 1Gbps).

If someone ask me; 300Mbps or 500Mbps also enough for typical Malaysian home as long that ping is good. As long that, any room not get below 20-30Mbps, it will be fine..
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QUOTE(msrazi @ Jan 22 2025, 05:49 PM)
I met a dude claim he is from ITD TM & he draw this & say u can do whatever with the eth wall socket each floor.

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This is what I want to do b4.
We can put ethernet port each floor (typical 3 storey home), then direct connect to AP router.
Can follow electrical route or TV antenna route (which obviously directly will go to top floor ceiling), just pull LAN cable. No need to hack, just follow existing conduit.

But lastly forgo the idea.
I dont see real benefits although it will boost my Tplink Deco speed a little.
Sekarang pun tgk 4k TV xda lag, CCTV also function like normal, average speed around the house 200Mbps+. If I boost it up, to get 1Gbps, I also get basically same thing (bukan nampak gambar lagi clear pun).
Maybe in future la if there is 8k TVs & PS6 8k games, then I will reconsider this idea.

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The drawing is a simplified sketch for basic home networking & fundamental to build a full speed multi storey building network.

For your situation, the benefits are:
1) Your can put RG router at suitable storey depends on your choice.


2) Only need 2 APs, each one locate at non RG router level.

3) Your internet speed is 500Mbps for 3 or more storey because the wall socket extend your router full speed LAN port either 1Gbe or 2.5G to AP. In easy word is the cable carry & connect your 500Mbps internet speed direct to your AP. No one tell you right?
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Mesh wi fi will be the answer
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Jan 31 2025, 08:47 PM)
Mesh wi fi will be the answer
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Example :

Ground floor - Main Router

1st floor - mesh router (connected wirelessly to Main Router), can this mesh router connect to a PC with Lan cable?
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1st floor - mesh router (connected via Lan cable to Main Router) better?

I recalled reading somewhere, that mesh router can be connected to Main Router via both wireless or Lan cable also can right?
& mesh router can be connected to PC/devices via wifi or Lan cable also can, correct?
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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Feb 5 2025, 07:51 AM)
Example :

Ground floor - Main Router

1st floor - mesh router (connected wirelessly to Main Router), can this mesh router connect to a PC with Lan cable?
or
1st floor - mesh router (connected via Lan cable to Main Router) better?

I recalled reading somewhere, that mesh router can be connected to Main Router via both wireless or Lan cable also can right?
& mesh router can be connected to PC/devices via wifi or Lan cable also can, correct?
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Yes, correct for all
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mine 3 storey house, use tenda mesh router as a solution for now, work ok.

But the mesh router (MW6) already more than 5 yrs looking to upgrade now. stil found no solution.

Cannot afford to have physical cable so looking for mesh with dedicated backhaul
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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Feb 5 2025, 07:51 AM)
Example :

Ground floor - Main Router

1st floor - mesh router (connected wirelessly to Main Router), can this mesh router connect to a PC with Lan cable?
or
1st floor - mesh router (connected via Lan cable to Main Router) better?

I recalled reading somewhere, that mesh router can be connected to Main Router via both wireless or Lan cable also can right?
& mesh router can be connected to PC/devices via wifi or Lan cable also can, correct?
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What do u mean router connect to pc with lan cable?
Do u mean ur pc want to use cable instead of wifi?
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 5 2025, 09:28 AM)
What do u mean router connect to pc with lan cable?
Do u mean ur pc want to use cable instead of wifi?
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Yes, means, Mesh router connected to Main Router via wireless, then PC connect to Mesh Router via cable.

So from the explanations above, apparently, all routers can be connected via wireless or wired also can, and all devices can be connected to Main Router or Mesh Routers via wifi or wired also can.

Excellent, means Mesh is perfect. 👍

 

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