yes

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Added on April 9, 2009, 5:38 pm

they will not give you money, unless it is a new scholarship, which will add to your bond......

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Added on April 9, 2009, 5:40 pm

working in other countries has nothing to do with how many years you have worked with the gov........

Anyway, doing IMU-PMS or full course overseas is very expensive, and pls prepare at least RM600K. Might be more.

could go up to 1 million depending on what city you are in. some people claim going to melbourne U could be as expensive as 800 to 900K. but it depends on your extra cost. do you club and spend alot of money shopping. maintaining a car etc.

so its hard to say. but the guidelines i follow would be the uni's suggest living expenses and bump it up more( maybe 20 to 30%) and think of extra expenses you might incure. alot of place dont give internet connection. and that can be hefty overseas depending on your needs. telco line fees etc.

Ibrahimovic, 680K is pretty cheap even for belfast. 

St.Andrew's foundation is only for a year i have a friend doing maths and physics foundation, and another who might start this sept. but if you have the money might as well, but i think your ABBB from STPM can def get you a spot in IMU. but 680K i also go already...

yes......many of imu students are those who have applied direct to these med schools and failed to secure a place, especially to oz undergrad med schools......eg, someone with ter 94 will have no chance of getting direct entry, but after imu, have a reasonable chance of getting oz.......althought the winds of change has swept through the landscape, oz is now the fav destination, not uk anymore with the new immigrations rules.....and it becomes that much harder when almost everybody puts oz as their top choices........

hi. just wanna ask anyone here study medic in romania?? or planning to? pls pls advise.

and also what do you guys do if the med sch you studied is not accepted in malaysia?

sorry for the troubles. thanks

Hey limeuu,

Yea, that's the problem.
It's a choice now, I have to choose upon entering, and wont be eligible for other PMS schools.
If I dont get the Bmed Second Upperclass degree, I'll be trying my luck or end up staying in Malaysia.
(Another Risk)

Thanks Hypermax, that's a strong point you got there.

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Added on May 10, 2009, 1:24 pmHey limeuu,

Can you brief me on what the 9 months is about?
Like What I would be expecting for a research, and how am I assessed.

Thanks

I don't know why you're so caught up on to Romania. but basically obtaining working visa as a doctor in non-uk country is gonna be a bit difficult. having speak the language of that country. and many other factors.

be careful of agents and universities who seemingly place their living expenses so low. you might end up spending more than you can afford. so dont trust all the agents.

depending on your result, you can go to any of the IPTS in malaysia. many of them accept low grades, manipal-melaka was BCC , IMU was BBC, AIMST am not sure. so at the end of the day insurance in your degree, and you know for a fact a loan from PTPTN can be secured, malaysia sounds like a better destination rather than romania. you might not qualify for monash though, heard they have high entry results.

There, you have said it yourself.

This should have deterred you from doing med.

We don't care how passionate you are, how much you want to be a doctor or how much you want to sacrifice.. (insert some nonsense crap here)

Bad results=No go

If you can't do it in high school, you can't do it in uni. Its as simple as that.

No bullshit about how you will study hard, work hard, ask lecturers, read a lot etc. because it won't happen. I repeat, IT WON'T HAPPEN.

I'm not trying to be rude or mean. I'm just telling you the facts. Medicine is a complicated. You don't stop studying in uni, you study throughout your life.
Take the swine flu for example. Never before has the world seen a mutation of both swine and human flu.

Another example...asthma. What causes asthma?

As a lay person, you might think its just a simple disease. But in truth, WE DO NOT KNOW. We do not know what mechanisms take place. There are so many hypothesis (eg. TH2), but no one can guarantee you a 100% that asthma is caused by that. There are so many factors involved, research is going on. You might be taught something one day....and that turns out to be wrong the next day.

Another one which you might be more familiar with... Panadol. How does it cause an analgesic effect? No one is sure. There are many hypothesis, but no one definitely knows. Google it up if you don't believe me. (Look at renown websites or pharmacology books, not websites like wikipedia)

Are you willing to commit for your entire life? If you can't handle something like SPM etc, you can't handle this.

thank you very much for the advise!

ahh.. im feeling tense already.

at first i was so sure, yes im going romania im going romania.. i applied online and all.. now just waiting for money from my parents..

now you all really made me think am i qualify even to be a doctor..

i was reading the first post when i was overwhelmed bout heart vs brain thingy.. cuz i have a good heart.. then half way i jumped to last 30 posts.. then i felt doctors are really really realistics.. its like dreams crashers..

i might not be, ok, i am not good in academic wise but i have real strong passion towards medic. i also dunno why. and i saved.. not lifes.. but just whenever someone is feeling unwell, got cut, or whatever (during camps especially), i will be the one helping them. guess im better off being a nurse huh.. haha.

and during class, i will be the one understood what was teacher talking about.. even good students ask me.. but when it comes to what was the disease call again? im screwed.. yup, i do understand this will be another nono for me to be a doctor.

i will think twice.. whether to be a guinea pig or take another pre u..

ahh.. i copied down the book list though. will try to read and see i will still have interest on it or not.

btw, i will update some progress ya. maybe first guinea pig who succeeds! sorry sorrry.. hehehehe

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Added on May 12, 2009, 2:14 ami've thought it through..

i will stil..

stil not the time to give up yet..

prob i need to be knocked down real hard real hard then only i will do something bout it..

because i went and did a bit of research, i believe i still stand a chance. slim, not a bright choice, but i will still continue..

i will not blame, will not whine, i will live my life without regrets.

is not just DR title.

to me, is much more.

kaiying, gogogo!!

Hey chill guys,
kaiying already stated that she's not fascinated with the Dr title, yea maybe sometimes people confuse passion with compassion.

And she's well-aware of her lackluster in academic merits is a serious hindrance.

For Now, maybe she'll have to succumb to it, but I'm sure she can fullfill the passion and compassion somewhere else in the immense health science field.

Now, my ( silly question warning)

Hey, is it possible for a doctor to balance and intercalate an extra interest in his, Years of medical studies, and Voyage of medical career?

Thanks and Good Morning form an Insomniac.

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Added on May 12, 2009, 9:51 amBut seriously, I thought the career wont be that demanding after the 7 years, when one's a Medical Officer.

Thanks

(I'm asking this because I really think that I dont know thorough enough about a Doctor's life.)

Looks like I've been naive here, after all, it's impossible to Live a Doctor's life or even live the student life without a 100% commitment and devotion.

Seriously thinking of to reject the IMU offer now. got 36 hours left. And you guys must be wondering that, a real passionate doctor wanna-be wont be in such thoughtful considerations like me now, right?

Thanks

haha, but after stumbling through all the posts, I'm starting to think that, this isnt just about studies, then what happens after the housemanship?
Clearly Medicine doesnt leads to a career which one can do with a part-time attitude.

More and more I started to think that I'm entering IMU to TRY the MBBS (with dad's money, quoted) to TRY coping with my true side, not to DO the MBBS.

phew. ( needs some time to organise my thoughts)

But I'm very grateful for the existence of this thread somewhere in our bolehland. And I spent the whole night to midnight reading through the posts( Insomnia). It's warming to see the right people embarking on the rightest dreams, and people who crossed the paths, made their faithful decisions. Feels like everyone's moving on with time in their place.

And limeuu, Hypermax, Chika138...for the continuous support devoted into this thread.

Thanks

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Added on May 12, 2009, 3:03 pmDont get me wrong, I'm not blindly obsessed with Th honorable Dr  title, but when it comes to pinpoints of life, sometimes it really makes me wonder If the achievement I wanted out of life is in order, thus making me feel like I cant commit fully into the medical studies

Why not? Hospitals are just like any other place, with telecommunication infrastructure. Probably more than the average place.

Tried that one, hmm, maybe I should try to find medic books in MPH, and give it a little study.

Besides that, is there anyway I can see a Doctor's life in a more realistic view? Rather than Watching House or ER...

Thanks

Try entering either IMU or Melaka-Manipal with BBC now

By meeting the min requirement doesn't mean that one has secured a place in that particular school.

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Added on May 13, 2009, 11:02 pm
Can a specialist spend so much time on an internet forum while working in hospital? If i am not mistaken, limeuu is a surgeon.