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Enquiries/Recommendations Notebook Recommendation Thread v.29

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myway1985
post Jan 16 2017, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(louis89 @ Jan 16 2017, 01:15 PM)
haha so ur meaning is get the i7-6700 with gtx 1070 (without gsync) instead of i7-7700 with gtx 1060 (with gsync)?
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Yes... Very disappointed wif kabylake... Bangsawan series ..The 10% extra clockspeed they claim is not noticeable without benchmark...

Those rich man who use 3200mhz ram n pay 2k on superb cooling 1 can oc to 5-6ghz la...But we poor ppl dun HV tat extra money for it.. we dun HV dedak
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post Jan 16 2017, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Jan 16 2017, 11:52 AM)
1. Becoz lenovo better margin
2. Acer aftersales screw us up big time.
3. Acer cost price up more than Lenovo...
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dont sow discord here, he asked for recommend, i gave alternative option, , incase you dont know, Acer has good after sales also whistling.gif

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QUOTE(louis89 @ Jan 16 2017, 12:36 PM)
Yeah processor wise is not much of a difference the GPU 1060 with gsync 1070 without gsync...haha price wise 1070 more expensive than kabylake with 1060
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be noted that alienware 15 r3 (kaby lake ) is with 120 hz g sync FHD panel that cost more then previously model

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post Jan 16 2017, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(ShadowFiendZXC @ Jan 16 2017, 12:37 PM)
1. Preferred brand : any
2. Budget : 3.5k
3. Usage : for unilife studying, watch movies, some light gaming
4. Screen Size : the wider, the better

*buying for my sister, not too bulky, not heavy*
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can look at

Lenovo Ideapad 710 Plus

INTEL® Core™ I5-7200U Processor / W10 HOME /13.3 FHD (SLIM) / 8G DDR4 2400 ONBOARD/ 256GB SSD / NV N16S-LG – Nvidia 940MX

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post Jan 16 2017, 03:25 PM

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just want to ask.. better i buy i3 or i4 processor? jut want to watch movie, MS Office and adobe photoshop?

which one is better? Acer,HP, Dell or ASUS

my budget not over RM2200
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QUOTE(tuahayam @ Jan 16 2017, 03:25 PM)
just want to ask.. better i buy i3 or i4 processor? jut want to watch movie, MS Office and adobe photoshop?

which one is better? Acer,HP, Dell or ASUS

my budget not over RM2200
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Sry TS, for ur budget u can forget bout dell new unit de.. dfo maybe can get...

Hp pavilion n ideapad 110 within ur budget
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post Jan 16 2017, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(louis89 @ Jan 16 2017, 01:15 PM)
haha so ur meaning is get the i7-6700 with gtx 1070 (without gsync) instead of i7-7700 with gtx 1060 (with gsync)?
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G-Sync monitors are very EXPENSIVE.. G-Sync isn't really worth it.. since 1070 already strong enuf...

G-Sync is a proprietary format that can only be used with Nvidia cards. Free-Sync on the other hand is a Display Port standard and can be implemented by anyone. The problem is, Nvidia doesn't want to use Free-Sync as that would mean them losing the money they are making from G-Sync. As of right now, Nvidia will not let you use Free-Sync on their video cards... i think no external monitor.... if u wanna use 1.. then get gsync type..
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Jan 16 2017, 03:46 PM)
G-Sync monitors are very EXPENSIVE.. G-Sync isn't really worth it.. since 1070 already strong enuf...

G-Sync is a proprietary format that can only be used with Nvidia cards. Free-Sync on the other hand is a Display Port standard and can be implemented by anyone. The problem is, Nvidia doesn't want to use Free-Sync as that would mean them losing the money they are making from G-Sync. As of right now, Nvidia will not let you use Free-Sync on their video cards... i think no external monitor.... if u wanna use 1.. then get gsync type..
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Coz other than gaming I will also use it to make videos and for presentations..meaning I might plug in to different external source..gsync won't effect it right?
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Jan 16 2017, 03:46 PM)
G-Sync monitors are very EXPENSIVE.. G-Sync isn't really worth it.. since 1070 already strong enuf...

G-Sync is a proprietary format that can only be used with Nvidia cards. Free-Sync on the other hand is a Display Port standard and can be implemented by anyone. The problem is, Nvidia doesn't want to use Free-Sync as that would mean them losing the money they are making from G-Sync. As of right now, Nvidia will not let you use Free-Sync on their video cards... i think no external monitor.... if u wanna use 1.. then get gsync type..
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Coz other than gaming I will also use it to make videos and for presentations..meaning I might plug in to different external source..gsync won't effect it right?
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post Jan 16 2017, 04:19 PM

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any AIO recommendation around RM3500?
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QUOTE(louis89 @ Jan 16 2017, 04:01 PM)
Coz other than gaming I will also use it to make videos and for presentations..meaning I might plug in to different external source..gsync won't effect it right?
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lets say u take new kaby lake with 1060 gsync... plug in external source, no gsync support. you cant get any display as i believe...
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QUOTE(hwachong @ Jan 16 2017, 04:19 PM)
any AIO recommendation around RM3500?
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Dell Inspiron 3264T-2081SG-W10 21.5" AIO Desktop PC i5-7200U, 8GB, 1TB, Intel, W10H; RM3499*
Asus Vivo AiO V220IC-GTBG016X 21.5"AIO Desktop i5-6200U, 4GB, 1TB, NV 930M, W10H; RM3499

need check latest pricing
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Jan 16 2017, 03:46 PM)
G-Sync monitors are very EXPENSIVE.. G-Sync isn't really worth it.. since 1070 already strong enuf...

G-Sync is a proprietary format that can only be used with Nvidia cards. Free-Sync on the other hand is a Display Port standard and can be implemented by anyone. The problem is, Nvidia doesn't want to use Free-Sync as that would mean them losing the money they are making from G-Sync. As of right now, Nvidia will not let you use Free-Sync on their video cards... i think no external monitor.... if u wanna use 1.. then get gsync type..
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From my understanding, all GTX-10xx series are G-Sync enabled GPU. Is the G-Sync feature limited by the panel technologies VA/TN/IPS and refresh rate? Would you mind to explain more? Sorry for my weak knowledge...
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Jan 16 2017, 04:21 PM)
lets say u take new kaby lake with 1060 gsync... plug in external source, no gsync support. you cant  get any display as i believe...
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You mean if the external source is not G-Sync monitor, then can't get any display? Cannot "OFF" this G-Sync feature to connect the laptop with non-G-Sync monitor?
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QUOTE(borgyang @ Jan 16 2017, 04:34 PM)
From my understanding, all GTX-10xx series are G-Sync enabled GPU. Is the G-Sync feature limited by the panel technologies VA/TN/IPS and refresh rate? Would you mind to explain more? Sorry for my weak knowledge...
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kinda confusing tho.. if all gtx10xx series are g-sync enable gpu, i wonder why they say 1060 with gsync and 1070 only (not with gsync) hmm.gif is it due marketing strategy? im not really sure.. yes.. its refresh rate.. well, above is just my opinion.. rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(borgyang @ Jan 16 2017, 04:41 PM)
You mean if the external source is not G-Sync monitor, then can't get any display? Cannot "OFF" this G-Sync feature to connect the laptop with non-G-Sync monitor?
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i think it should able to works since its only refresh rate prob not 144.. sometimes, i read some rumous (from other q&a saying).. unable get display from unsupported gsync monitor

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Jan 16 2017, 04:48 PM)
kinda confusing tho..  if all gtx10xx series are g-sync enable gpu, i wonder why they say 1060 with gsync and 1070 only (not with gsync)  hmm.gif  is it due marketing strategy? im not really sure.. yes.. its refresh rate.. well, above is just my opinion..  rclxub.gif

i think i need summon legendary sifu goldfries. Please enlighten us if u dont mind smile.gif your great knowledge sharing will give us benefits... thanks
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Better... I ask a few brands product manager.. most tell me gsync will giv better flow(won't HAVE screen lag)... Function wise they dint tell me what's the significant difference..

To9 I ask MSI PM n see...

Guess it got something to do wif 120hz screen n above..
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QUOTE(borgyang @ Jan 16 2017, 04:34 PM)
From my understanding, all GTX-10xx series are G-Sync enabled GPU. Is the G-Sync feature limited by the panel technologies VA/TN/IPS and refresh rate? Would you mind to explain more? Sorry for my weak knowledge...
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QUOTE(borgyang @ Jan 16 2017, 04:41 PM)
You mean if the external source is not G-Sync monitor, then can't get any display? Cannot "OFF" this G-Sync feature to connect the laptop with non-G-Sync monitor?
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You need three things to enable G-sync: G-sync compatible screen, G-sync compatible GPU and a motherboard architecture compatible with G-sync.

If you don't have the G-sync screen but you have the other 2, you are still able to use a G-sync external monitor.

ADD: You have to disable Hybrid graphics (Intel <-> Nvidia) to enable Gsync, some laptops permanently disable the graphics switching technology for G-sync; some laptops allow for manually switching between dedicated (G-sync) and Hybrid graphics (No G-sync) mode for user convenience.

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Jan 16 2017, 05:16 PM)
Better... I ask a few brands product manager.. most tell me gsync will giv better flow(won't HAVE screen lag)... Function wise they dint tell me what's the significant difference..

To9 I ask MSI PM n see...

Guess it got something to do wif 120hz screen n above..
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yeah.. good...
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All the G-sync screens are >60Hz, there are 60Hz, 75Hz and 120Hz G-sync laptop screens in the market so far.

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