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post Dec 24 2016, 10:46 PM, updated 9y ago

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Ok guys, is this considered diversified enough?

CIMB-PRINCIPAL GLOBAL TITANS FUND
TA EUROPEAN EQUITY FUND
CIMB-PRINCIPAL GREATER CHINA EQUITY FUND
CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME FUND
RHB ASIAN INCOME FUND
AFFIN HWANG SELECT ASIA (EX JAPAN) OPPORTUNITY FUND
EASTSPRING INVESTMENTS SMALL-CAP FUND
KENANGA GROWTH FUND

I don't have a USA fund, was looking at the RHB US Equity Focus Fund but decided to get the European one instead. All of them are equities except the RHB Asian Income Fund which is a balanced fund since I am relatively young and fully understand the concept of risk. But at the same time I just want to be prepared, that should the market take a turn for the worst (be it Malaysian market, or region-specific, or global), I want to be able to switch these funds to Bond or Money Market funds.

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post Dec 24 2016, 10:59 PM

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Tell us category, type, exposure and others..
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post Dec 24 2016, 11:17 PM

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You can ask this under the existing FSM thread and there's no need to keep opening a thread.
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post Dec 24 2016, 11:42 PM

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questions such as these should be in the fsm thread. this is the third question cum thread that's been open in the sub forum. please practice some common sense.

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post Dec 24 2016, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 24 2016, 11:42 PM)
questions such as these should be in the fsm thread. this is the third question cum thread that's been open in the sub forum. please practice some common sense.

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Actually I do not use FSM. So I am scared if the people will say I do not have the right to ask questions there.
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post Dec 24 2016, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(effectz @ Dec 24 2016, 10:59 PM)
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So generally, when talking about diversifying Unit Trust funds, what is meant? If it meant diversification in terms of geographic locations, or in terms of investment instruments (equity, balanced, fixed income and money market), or in terms of market sectors?

For me currently, due to my high risk appetite, I am going almost all-in on equities. But still, within equities itself, is it possible to diversify, especially based on location, from the funds I have listed above? There are three Asian, one global, one European, one Greater China and two Malaysian equity funds there. Is that "diverse" enough geographically?

Also, all of these are mainly general equity funds focused on the entire sectors of equities, except one Small Cap fund for the Malaysian equity I have. What are common sector-focused equity offerings? Is REIT considered one of them? Or is REIT totally different altogether from equity based UT funds?
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post Dec 25 2016, 12:07 AM

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try this site....
key in required data and it will analyse your would be portfolio in erms of % of chances making positives returns. and many more info....
https://iportfolio.com.my/snapshot
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post Dec 25 2016, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 25 2016, 12:07 AM)
hope I can post before thread is closed.....
try this site....
key in required data and it will analyse your would be portfolio in erms of % of chances making positives returns. and many more info....
https://iportfolio.com.my/snapshot
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Thank you. Will check it out.
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post Dec 25 2016, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 25 2016, 12:07 AM)
hope I can post before thread is closed.....
try this site....
key in required data and it will analyse your would be portfolio in erms of % of chances making positives returns. and many more info....
https://iportfolio.com.my/snapshot
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My result:

1) This portfolio is very aggressively allocated:

Equity 92.86%
Bond 7.14%

2) This portfolio is well diversified:

Global Equity 21.43%
Asian Equity 50.00%
Domestic Equity 21.43%
Asian Bond 7.14%

So I mean overall is it good to get the above results?

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post Dec 25 2016, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 25 2016, 12:26 AM)
My result:

1) This portfolio is very aggressively allocated:

Equity 92.86%
Bond 7.14%

2) This portfolio is well diversified:

Global Equity 21.43%
Asian Equity 50.00%
Domestic Equity 21.43%
Asian Bond 7.14%

So I mean overall is it good to get the above results?
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analyse deeper....
what is the % of chances of making positive returns?
what are the ROI?
try tweak it to become higher % of chances of positive returns and higher ROI?

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post Dec 25 2016, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 25 2016, 12:33 AM)
analyse deeper....
what is the % of chances of making positive returns?
what are the ROI?
try tweak it to become higher % of chances of positive returns and higher ROI?
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Oh ok. For ROI, it is 5.2% for the past 1 year, 11.8% annualized for the past 5 years. I am trying to look long term and the performances of most of these for this year isn't so good but I believe will recover for the future.

In terms of volatility, it is 8.1% for 1 year and 6.22% for 5 years. 66.7% positive results for 1 year, 76.7% positive returns for 5 years.
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post Dec 25 2016, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 25 2016, 12:50 AM)
Oh ok. For ROI, it is 5.2% for the past 1 year, 11.8% annualized for the past 5 years. I am trying to look long term and the performances of most of these for this year isn't so good but I believe will recover for the future.

In terms of volatility, it is 8.1% for 1 year and 6.22% for 5 years. 66.7% positive results for 1 year, 76.7% positive returns for 5 years.
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fyi, changes to the allocations and replacing some of the funds can improve the results.
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post Dec 25 2016, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 24 2016, 11:47 PM)
Actually I do not use FSM. So I am scared if the people will say I do not have the right to ask questions there.
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You can also ask under fund investment corner, one of the pinned post. That thread is not FSM specific but you would most likely get FSM-ers replies
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post Dec 25 2016, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 25 2016, 12:53 AM)
fyi, changes to the allocations and replacing some of the funds can improve the results.
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Yeah but at the end of the day doing that is just reflective of the past performance, which is not necessarily an indicator of future performance. I can definitely add funds that perform much better in the last 1/3/5 years to improve the past returns of my portfolio, but that just gives it a higher chance of underperforming painfully in the future. I just feel in terms of "returns" I am comfortable with this portfolio, it's only in terms of diversification I wanted to know if it was good.

Thanks for sharing that website btw. Very useful!
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 25 2016, 01:43 AM)
Yeah but at the end of the day doing that is just reflective of the past performance, which is not necessarily an indicator of future performance. I can definitely add funds that perform much better in the last 1/3/5 years to improve the past returns of my portfolio, but that just gives it a higher chance of underperforming painfully in the future. I just feel in terms of "returns" I am comfortable with this portfolio, it's only in terms of diversification I wanted to know if it was good.

Thanks for sharing that website btw. Very useful!
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look at the projected volatility % too....
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post Dec 25 2016, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 24 2016, 10:46 PM)
Ok guys, is this considered diversified enough?

CIMB-PRINCIPAL GLOBAL TITANS FUND
TA EUROPEAN EQUITY FUND
CIMB-PRINCIPAL GREATER CHINA EQUITY FUND
CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME FUND
RHB ASIAN INCOME FUND
AFFIN HWANG SELECT ASIA (EX JAPAN) OPPORTUNITY FUND
EASTSPRING INVESTMENTS SMALL-CAP FUND
KENANGA GROWTH FUND

I don't have a USA fund, was looking at the RHB US Equity Focus Fund but decided to get the European one instead. All of them are equities except the RHB Asian Income Fund which is a balanced fund since I am relatively young and fully understand the concept of risk. But at the same time I just want to be prepared, that should the market take a turn for the worst (be it Malaysian market, or region-specific, or global), I want to be able to switch these funds to Bond or Money Market funds.
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post Dec 25 2016, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 24 2016, 10:46 PM)
I don't have a USA fund, was looking at the RHB US Equity Focus Fund but decided to get the European one instead. All of them are equities except the RHB Asian Income Fund which is a balanced fund since I am relatively young and fully understand the concept of risk. But at the same time I just want to be prepared, that should the market take a turn for the worst (be it Malaysian market, or region-specific, or global), I want to be able to switch these funds to Bond or Money Market funds.
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For US based, you can go with Manulife US equities, TA global tech, Eastspring Global Leaders, Cimb Titans.
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post Dec 25 2016, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 25 2016, 08:49 AM)
For US based, you can go with Manulife US equities, TA global tech, Eastspring Global Leaders, Cimb Titans.
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I already have Cimb titans listed above. I was thinking more about the RHB US Focus Equity Fund since it is focused on small cap companies and should likely improve next year with Trump. TA Global Tech is a sector fund and seems quite risky.
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 25 2016, 12:29 PM)
I already have Cimb titans listed above. I was thinking more about the RHB US Focus Equity Fund since it is focused on small cap companies and should likely improve next year with Trump. TA Global Tech is a sector fund and seems quite risky.
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REITs are sector funds too.
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 24 2016, 10:46 PM)
Ok guys, is this considered diversified enough?

CIMB-PRINCIPAL GLOBAL TITANS FUND
TA EUROPEAN EQUITY FUND
CIMB-PRINCIPAL GREATER CHINA EQUITY FUND
CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME FUND
RHB ASIAN INCOME FUND
AFFIN HWANG SELECT ASIA (EX JAPAN) OPPORTUNITY FUND
EASTSPRING INVESTMENTS SMALL-CAP FUND
KENANGA GROWTH FUND

I don't have a USA fund, was looking at the RHB US Equity Focus Fund but decided to get the European one instead. All of them are equities except the RHB Asian Income Fund which is a balanced fund since I am relatively young and fully understand the concept of risk. But at the same time I just want to be prepared, that should the market take a turn for the worst (be it Malaysian market, or region-specific, or global), I want to be able to switch these funds to Bond or Money Market funds.
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Personally my advice would be don't switch. You are young, you can wait out the recession (which only lasts one or two years anyway.) In a global recession, you should buy more units of equities because they are cheap. DCA is perfect for this.




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