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Thats why you need to choose the best available fund that can generate the best return among the league to minimize the platform fee impact 
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Jan 27 2017, 12:59 PM
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Jan 27 2017, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(inquiries @ Jan 27 2017, 01:02 PM) Oh! I must have read wrongly then. Somehow my blur mind thought Unit Trust investment of <200k is subjected to platform fee in FSM... no idea where did I read that. we have new investors full of fire in their hearts, we have veterans who keep the fire going with constant firewood. some of us are silent readers who soak all info like a sponge. with that kind of group dynamics, sure gonna be active. hope everyone is safe at hometown or your homes enjoying the holidays.I guess currently, only Singapore FSM charges platform fee for investment other than bond? (found it here, a post by creativ in 2013). FSM Malaysia only incur platform fee on fixed incomes... In that case, the benefit of using FSM (for Unit Trusts) far outweight that of eUT. Thanks your the replies everyone. P.S: Wow this thread is crazy active! |
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Jan 27 2017, 01:14 PM
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Jan 27 2017, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(skynode @ Jan 27 2017, 01:24 PM) Greetings, I am new to FSM. What would the Sifu's here recommend in terms of fund allocation for an Agressive Portfolio with good diversification. very agressive portfolio for me. maybe it works well for you. what are your aim and goals and what is your time frame? i personally was in manulife india when it went south and slowly creep back up. then i just can't take it and sold if off. learnt my lesson about single country UT after that. however, does not mean India is not good. still think it's a good prospect.I have a long investment horizon. Somewhere along the thread, I saw this : 40% CIMB Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund 30% CIMB Global Titans Fund 20% Kenanga Growth Fund 10% Manulife India Equities Fund Is this good diversification and are they good funds for growth? I would like to have some bond fund too in the mixed. Any suggestions/recommendations are most welcomed. Thank you. |
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Jan 27 2017, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 27 2017, 01:52 PM) Have you got any hindsight on this ? What finally triggered the sell off ? Did you analyse say If you stay through maybe you could be better off ? yes, if i stayed through I might be better off. But since it gives me the shakes, I might as well, make minimal profit and just take it out for better days. I don't have any hindsight but comparing the time i sold and now, the profit that I would have made now might not be a lot. after all that, I have a peace of mind so I would say good move for me. |
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Jan 27 2017, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 27 2017, 09:57 PM) Guys another thing I simply cannot comprehend is how is the RHB Asian Income fund LOSING value over the last 2 days, when the entire Asian markets were in full rally mode? Plus I see their top holdings were all making extreme gains. It seems way too fishy. RHB Asian Income seems to be the one fund I have that is not in line with the performance of the target region (Asia Pacific in this case). dividend distribution. strengthening of the ringgit to name a few. |
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Jan 30 2017, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(fishman @ Jan 30 2017, 02:30 PM) I have been reading up on this forum for a while now, trying to learn & absorb the knowledge & experience that u guys r so kind to share. welcome kind sir on this journey. I would advise you take everything not as the gospel truth. It is a place to share ideas and experiences. Some might be spot on to your opinion, some might be too much for you to take. all in all, do not forget the motive of fsm. You take control of your money and reap the rewards from your decisions, not give the decision making to some guy even if it's your relative. I have prev invested in UTF via an agent (a relative) & I pretty much let him tell me what to do. I had no knowledge at all about UTF & how it works, & i never bothered to learn it up. He said switch, I switched & those happened rather freq. When he decided not to be an agent, he asked me to withdraw & i did. I made a profit of ~0.2%... after 3-4 yrs. 😓 The thing is, I am in my mid-40s. I have never been interested in financial stuff. M working in a MNC & felt as long as I have a job, I m OK. Then I realised that's not enough as I am not getting any younger. My time horizon is getting shorter & shorter. So my regret is that I never took the initiative to learn & plan my financials much earlier... and I need to start now. So I signed up with FSM a few weeks ago, and look fwd to be a "new" investor. I hope to learn from u guys, no matter your age or gender. Thanks for all your past sharings & thanks in advance for all you future guidances. remember that and you will always remember why you are doing fsm in the first place. many blessings to you and everyone here. may you reach your targetted returns and be in a better state than where you all are now! |
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Feb 1 2017, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(drew86 @ Feb 1 2017, 04:27 PM) UT IMHO is not an ideal vehicle for such active trading. Firstly the NAV is always forward pricing, you'll never know the current NAV. Secondly there is always a period where the money is floating and you have no control over it when switching funds, and this can take over a week! wait a while longer he might start scolding on how he should be given control to fire or hire fund managers he has due to their performance.Anyways to each his own! May you strive well scalping on UT. |
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Feb 2 2017, 08:33 AM
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early morning post before i start work. my confession. invest 2 years on and off and my ROI is just around 3.xx% and that young gun got 4.xx% in just 1 month's time. what an amazing feat! however, if you have the time to do the switching and what nots then great, it could prove to be a blessing if it can be done. but for people who just want a 'passive' investment, i will rebalance it when i need to. to each his or her own. if that strategy actually works, he will hold that accolade high and might start a new trend. time will tell my friend, which you all the luck in the world cos God knows you need it more than we do.
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Feb 2 2017, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 2 2017, 08:44 AM) got a feeling that if this becomes a major concern to the fund houses, fsm will be implementing a limited switching per month or reward those who have been keeping the fund for X amount of years. hey i don't mind any of that! would be cool to get some kind of rewards for keeping in line with what unit trust investments actually meant. but i guess it is typical human behaviour to push limits and see how far they can go before getting caught or stuck.doesn't take a lot. out of 1.5% per annum charge you give a little back to those who stayed. win win situation. nothing wrong. anyone else doing it successful or not is another case study for me to learn. it gets personal only when it affects me in a big way. |
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Feb 2 2017, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 2 2017, 09:39 AM) |
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Feb 2 2017, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 2 2017, 09:47 AM) yea. sold off smart treasure for a loss. i kept smart income since it's the same as smart treasure. then sold anita and get esther teo fund, so a bit of rebalancing there. I'm not sure if I did anything wrong but guess that is my earnings?QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 2 2017, 09:48 AM) ok...noted. holding two of those three u listed, do u mean they perform below par compared to the rest?unless for some popular funds like, AHSBF, RHBEMBF and EIGLF...most of the funds are having a good run last month.hope it can continue. |
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Feb 2 2017, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 2 2017, 10:15 AM) But I supposed if you sell off the entire fund ( at a loss or gain ), and invest in new fund, ROI will be low. correct, because my funds are in small amounts of money, it's either keep or sell all. it keeps track of history. last 2 years i bought EGL and sold it off when globally everything went down. then i bought it back again last year and every transaction i done is included. however, if you wish to hide the 'truth' , you can always assume to start not from there but from whichever time frame you felt gives a better result?I don't use the spreadsheet thing. Does it still keep track of sold funds ( gain or loss ) history ? for me, i have to be honest with myself and my money so might as well face the truth. |
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Feb 2 2017, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 2 2017, 10:21 AM) vinc you need to use the spread sheets. doing any movements in your portfolio will fuck up your current roi. i am using the spread sheets. i had no idea selling would fuck it up. thanks for telling me. then i should feel better about myself. haha. example my roi in November was 6% but I pumped 30k into my 20k portfolio, did a rebalancing of Anita and kapchai. purchased esther at 11k, Ponzi 2.0, rhb AIF, dragon and etc. major top up and my roi became 0.5% but I didn't lose any money as all I lost was paper gains I once had. use the spreadsheet. don't give up. don't chase returns. i agree on you about the gains and losses. After all that i am technically better off than initial investment. |
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Feb 2 2017, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Feb 2 2017, 10:22 AM) Sold funds are not included as part of ROI or IRR calculations. But you can keep it at the top the table and the unit price can continue to be updated to see if it goes up or comes down after you sell thanks for the comment! i had no freaking idea. so in the end, it only shows what my current portfolio is doing and what is sold is irrelevant then. in the end of it all, how would we know if we did well? just from the amount we got compared to initial investment over n number of years? or when you sell your portfolio as a whole? |
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Feb 2 2017, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 2 2017, 10:30 AM) Your total capital that you placed into your portfolio and compare it to any other investment vehicles like epf and fd over the course of your investment period. That is how I deem my unit trust investment as successful or not. can't do it now bro. my sheet is in my laptop and i'm in office. will let you guys know when i get to it.Do the calculations now vinc. |
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Feb 2 2017, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Feb 2 2017, 11:16 AM) Thanks for your honest post. Not many people would show less than stellar performance. And that's why sometimes we get a skewed impression of how good certain products are that's why i won't make a good salesman. i cannot flower up anything to save myself. haha.edit: apologies in case i used the word lie too loosely. not to offend anyone. This post has been edited by vincabby: Feb 2 2017, 11:20 AM |
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Feb 2 2017, 03:31 PM
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changing titles would mean most of us here uses cimbclicks for UT. i am using FSM as with most people here. merging them might mean less concentrated discussions. i have my reservations on that but see what the majority says.
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Feb 3 2017, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(skynode @ Feb 3 2017, 10:54 AM) After speaking to a lady with a sexy voice from FSM, this is how the process go : 1) withdraw fund from Public Mutual Berhad and keep the receipt 2) email the receipt to FSM. they would reply within 1-2 days (depending on what time they receive said email) 3) wait for a reply from FSM. Once they have acknowledged, can purchase any fund from the ones listed in FSM for 0% SC except for AFFIN HWANG. (I don't know why is this). When you have purchased and transacted, send them an email to remind them to manually adjust the transaction so that there won't be any SC. If say you withdraw RM10K fund from PMB, you have up to 1 month to buy up to RM10K worth of fund from FSM. last time FSM called me was a dude!!!! |
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