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 FundSuperMart v17 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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post Jan 9 2017, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(john123x @ Jan 9 2017, 03:07 PM)
i just emailed my account opening form and its supporting documents to FSM
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one more step to being an investor. Have you targeted where your funds will go once you get the account?
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post Jan 9 2017, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jan 9 2017, 03:20 PM)
No take home message, just a taking some veterans down memory lane and also to let noobs know what happened in 2016 in a very nutshell form. No take home message, key note message.

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how time flies. that was last year. in my head, i was thinking if this is a global recession coming. one year on, we have a new agenda in trump.
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post Jan 9 2017, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(john123x @ Jan 9 2017, 03:42 PM)
Imaginary money doesnt have much weightage.

Its just like itrade stock games using imaginary money, and the winners are winning because they all trades high risk call warrants.
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it gives room to experiment on ideas without losing capital. like war games on pc. utilizing strategies without losing a single man. for research purposes, it is a good learning point.
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post Jan 11 2017, 09:33 AM

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So what can you do to avoid to avoid the pitfalls of trying to buy low and sell high?

Understand your goals and risk tolerance: before you get started investing, it is critically important to understand what it is you are trying to accomplish and how much risk you are comfortable taking. Once you have that figured out, you can create an investment plan that is appropriate for you and comfortable enough to keep you from impulse buying high and panic selling low.
Avoid market timing: instead of trying to time investments perfectly and squeeze every last cent out of each one, focus on building a diversified portfolio of stocks and bonds that give you the greatest chance to succeed over the long term.
Leverage your resources: having a great financial plan and a diversified portfolio is irrelevant if you don’t follow through and stick to it. Becoming self-aware of the pitfalls is a great first step. Having a good financial advisor is a good step too. Just make sure that they are a fee-only fiduciary, so that they have your best interests in mind at all times.



just pasting what I think is the take home value. The rest of the article is at the website.

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post Jan 11 2017, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Jan 11 2017, 10:46 AM)
Hi I am starting my first investment and looking for first find to buy. It seems ponzi 1 is most recommmended as first fund but I can't find in FSM list. Can u share wher to buy ponzi 1?
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it is there. i just look through their list just now. try to look again.
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post Jan 11 2017, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Jan 11 2017, 11:13 AM)
But it has highest return. And fund is not like stock market where my investment can down to 0 right?
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it does and it looks so great. now, to take you to the other side of the mirror, you willing to lose as much as you potentially earn? can you really stomach that? 10% profit also would mean 10% loss. it's all about how well your stomach can take it. not literally, not so much how much returns you can take.

however, with that being said, we have a wide range of school of thoughts here so go with whichever you find most suitable.
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post Jan 11 2017, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Jan 11 2017, 02:01 PM)
Yea actually I read Liao the first few page but due to first time invest need to be sure I understand corrwctly. I am used to the idea of dividend so when it says no distribution make me confuse.

Just to clarify the ponzi 1 is no distribution so it means the NAV will continue up but not like fund with distribution that go up and down every yr right?
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before i go back to my desk work, i will reply this

dividend in stocks is not the same as unit trust dividends. the idea is, you get dividend, UT goes down in NAV, it does not mean you make any money actually. with or without, it still relies on NAV price you bought and what it currently is.

ponzi 1 no distribution means it will not have the sudden drop in price which gives most ppl here heart attacks. the fund will still go "up and down every year" due to growth, shocking news, or any factors from change of personnel in the investment bank or change of prime minister, for example. so try not to use vague terms like "go up and down every year". if the UT don't do that, means you're either buying bonds or cash management funds.
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post Jan 12 2017, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Jan 12 2017, 10:09 AM)
Hey guys.

I think I have a different investment strategy after a Alyzing few funds. I have about 500-1000 per month to invest and initially thought only 1 fund to invest. Now I think I should spread the money into few funds. That is better strategy right?

I look at bond funds and the return seems good compare to fd and is secure. Which bond/fix income fund is recommmend? I look at amanah income trust fund looks not bad with yearly return of 8-10%
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go take a look at recommended funds and more times than most you won't go wrong from there. the bonds in here are esther teo fund, anita mui bond fund. i might have missed out some others.
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post Jan 12 2017, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(john123x @ Jan 12 2017, 10:32 AM)
guys, i got a question. i wanna ask, on FSM website, it shows the fund performance. my question is the fund performance as its stated or we need to manually deduct the Annual Management Fee to get the Real  performance?

after being advised by lots of FSM member here regarding the importance of diversification, i think i gonna get the following on saturday: generally, its from FSM recommended fund and recommended portfolio

CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund - MYR  20%
CIMB-Principal Global Titans Fund 20%
CIMB-Principal Greater China Equity Fund 20%
Eastspring Investments Small-Cap Fund 20%
Affin Hwang Select Asia (Ex Japan) Quantum Fund 20%
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as balanced as that can be, do you have that much trust in small cap in this country? usually they put around 5-10% only due to their high volatility. i presume you are going 100% equities and no fixed income then?
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post Jan 12 2017, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Jan 12 2017, 11:10 AM)
Y put so many funny name for the fund haha
Is in the FSM fact sheet/prospectus/annual report. Some yearbrecorded lower like 6% la but average the return is not bad
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lazy to type and it's catchy so yea...
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post Jan 12 2017, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Jan 12 2017, 12:55 PM)
U r right. Haha. I think research took much until head not straight liao. Need some rest.
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prob cos you are kinda hot headed and rash in that sense. don't really read fine print. take your time to study them. if you don't wan too much details, the fact sheet will be fine. read it again, again and again. after a while you'll get the hang of it.
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post Jan 12 2017, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Jan 12 2017, 04:44 PM)
Is there advantage I can take of the FSM 1% newbie charge?
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usual charge is 2%, you get 1%. tell me is there an advantage or not.
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post Jan 12 2017, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Jan 12 2017, 04:58 PM)
Yala. I mean like trick to take advantage of the 1% period. Maybe there is none but just in case have a trick.

Like invest in diverse or something. But I think is no difference since money I put in is limited haha
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the trick is the credit ninja trick which i'm not so sure about. anyway, the lower the charge, the better.
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post Jan 13 2017, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Jan 12 2017, 11:26 PM)
EH, tbh, I also dont know what kap chai means laugh.gif

what language is that? laugh.gif
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it's downright malaysian man. my dad who is chinese uses it. a malay uncle uses it. indians use it too. usually refer to the honda motor of old with the low cc count? haha. now, the relevance to the fund is the 'kap' in kap chai to the 'cap' in small cap. forgot who came up with this.
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post Jan 13 2017, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Jan 13 2017, 12:31 PM)
Guys, I transfered some monies into cash management fund and paid using FPX on Weds (after 3pm). It's still showing as pending right now. Any idea when I will see it under my holding ? Thx.
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3 days. since it is after 3pm so one day count starts on thursday, not wednesday.
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post Jan 13 2017, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 13 2017, 02:04 PM)
thank God. I placed a 50%-50% into my girlfriend's portfolio. lol. when she comes back from Kuala Lumpur tomorrow I show her.

Lol.
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post Jan 16 2017, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 15 2017, 07:28 PM)
wanted to give my dad the red packets from fsm and first thing he said was

"looks like shit"

he showed me the red packets from Mitsubishi motors and damn ours looks like shit.
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my mum thinks it's kinda nice with four colours this time around. mitsubishi motors prob from another level altogether.
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post Jan 16 2017, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 16 2017, 09:08 AM)
that's how fucked up we are when we don't know if there is a light at the end of the tunnel. this 1MDB fiasco is eating into our country after all these years he guy is still in Putrajaya.
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what to do...people are still voting him in. in the end whose fault is that? not even counting so called rigged and unfairness in the election system.
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post Jan 16 2017, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jan 16 2017, 10:20 AM)
Best in Singapore and JB, and some say Batam!  thumbup.gif

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famous? sg? must be ramjade, avangelice, xuzen, puchongite.. all these sifu sifu. forgive me if i left out more sifus like adele123, dasecret... who else...

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post Jan 17 2017, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Jan 17 2017, 11:54 AM)
Bombard those who actively trade UT?  laugh.gif
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