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 FundSuperMart v17 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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post Jan 18 2017, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jan 18 2017, 03:04 PM)
I'm not economist to be able to predict; hence I do asset allocation method so I sleep well at night. MY don't have much room to increase interest rate though, hence why our currency takes a hit

Healthcare stocks I can think off - KPJ; IHH; Sime Darby but the contribution from healthcare is not big
Pharma stocks - Pharmaniaga (from the name I'm guessing it's pharma  tongue.gif ); hovid (teruk at the moment)
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avoid Healthcare stocks.

they are placing Healthcare as underweight for the year onwards.
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post Jan 19 2017, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Jan 19 2017, 09:12 AM)
I made a transaction before 3 pm yesterday on FSM. Till now the status is still processing. Usually how long does this take to finalize ?
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depending that transaction bro.

cash management fund is T+2

purchase is T+3

sell off T+3
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post Jan 19 2017, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(john123x @ Jan 19 2017, 12:09 PM)
I been wondering if Malaysia equity have any future?

You know la, the 1mdb scandal....whole world also knows about doj 1mdb. Foreign funds fleeing malaysia....capital control..... Oil price still low....usdmyr 4.5....
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one thing I am proud about malaysia is that we have gone through so much shit that our finance and banking sector are highly adaptive and stable. Stupid policies like the NEP, race based politics and corrupt government have tempered our spirit.

that being said I take it very personal that our prime minister is having shit in his head and I'll avoid malaysia for the time being in my portfolio.
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post Jan 19 2017, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 19 2017, 01:19 PM)
I thought recently both KGF and ponzi 1.0 have improved (starting from last week of last year or beginning of this year) ?
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How to improve when our klce fluctuates between 1600 to 1670. true enough KGB and ponzi 1.0 jumped in tandem when KLSE rose from 1635 on the 3rd of January to 1677 on the 12th of January but it is just temporary I do not see a horizon or a catalyst for us to improve our current standing

I still place Malaysia as a no go until things stabilizes.

Ps I also consider my epf as part of my investment portfolio which has mostly Malaysia investment so yep. I lose nothing by not touching Malaysian EQ

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post Jan 19 2017, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(the99percent1 @ Jan 19 2017, 02:25 PM)
is it advisable to take a 25k rm 12 month loan at 1.99% p.a., and put that money to FSM ? any sifu can advise?

the loan is serviceable on my current monthly salary. Less than 30%, no issues.

The thing is, i get the cash upfront for investment, instead of waiting 12 months to save it. 2% interest is negligible in the long run. Good deal?
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Total lost incurred.

2% to interest rate.
2% to service charge
1.8% platform fee for EQ (calculated in nav)

Total 5.8%

return rate for January 2017 to December 2017 (best case scenario) = 8%. worst case scenario 6%

Total return. 2.2% / 0.2%

lol. worst than savings account/inflation rate

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A special interest rate/ management fee of 1.99% flat per annum (equivalent to effective interest/
management fee rate of 3.65%p.a. – 12 months), 2.99% flat per annum (equivalent to effective interest/
management fee rate of 5.64%p.a. – 24 months) and 5.88% flat per annum (equivalent to effective interest/
management fee rate of 10.87%p.a. – 36 months) will be charged to the Cardholder’s account based on the
amount approved. This is a one time interest/management fee rate and will be calculated upfront on the
principal amount and will be billed over a period of 12, 24 or 36 months instalment as selected.
E.g. for approved QuickCash amount of RM20,000, the monthly instalment is computed as follows: [RM20,000
+ (RM20,000 x 2.99% x 2 year)] / 24 months = RM883.17 per month.

why you no read the terms and conditions??
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Jan 19 2017, 02:55 PM)
If you know where to put, still interesting, but my current salary doesn't allow me to afford such a loan, probably next chance laugh.gif
But balance transfer requires you to already spend that kind of money first, but delaying payment right? tongue.gif

If got free cash direct with low enough effective interest rate and having enough cash and knowledge to deal around, shouldn't be a problem

of course everyone here in forum just advice and opinion, if you lose money due to this investment and loan, none of us is responsible for it  whistling.gif
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investing money that's not even yours yet to time the market. sounds like a brilliant idea when you do make money but if you don't...kaput.

ebrokers allow you to buy stocks with money that isn't yours first and sometimes x3 to x2 the amount. that's how people get into trouble
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QUOTE(the99percent1 @ Jan 19 2017, 03:27 PM)
I was dabbling with the thought of margin financing or shared margin, but not in msia/FSM markets. and seems risky.. That one really need to think and also need to expand to overseas investment platforms. Too hard imo.

But I constantly think about this strategy alot. Especially investing long term in ETFs and/or Unit Trusts. I truly believe you can make a nice, tidy sum of money.

Think about it, taking a loan and debt is just withdrawing your future salary, today. You pay it off over-time with interest (or fee), but in return, you get the cash upfront and in your hands today for investment purposes. Instead of waiting years to save up the cash.

And what is the two main rules of stock market investment?
1. invest for a long, long time. &
2. Diversify.

I just need to grow some pair and try it out.  puke.gif
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I know the feeling when you know where to invest. you know how to make money work for you but the only road block is that you don't have enough. I been there before. only stopping me from going a out is that I have a 500k housing loan to keep me in check. one mistake and I can potentially get myself in more debt.

my honest opinion is try saving whatever you can from your daily expenses. set a saving limit. put said savings into an account and shift the money into any investment vehicles. it's slow. it's boring but it's your money. not the banks. hope you are careful in what you do.
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Jan 19 2017, 03:31 PM)
Just remember to watch out your financial position while attempting this

Many people get addicted in doing this and end up losing lots of money and accumulate debts

Some of my relative even addicted and lose a lot until lelong their collateral and their family suffered after his sudden death

Be wise smile.gif
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well said. I don't wanna have to go suddenly from this world and leave 4 debts onto my dad. it's a sinful thing to do.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 19 2017, 04:03 PM)
Sifu Xuzen has done a major mod on the port.

Some single cross, some double ticks.

Do you mean those with cross are removed, and the money is put into the double tick ? Those with single tick are status quo?
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knowing him double thick means

"the fuck you waiting for, sai lang!"
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 19 2017, 09:48 PM)
Guys, please man. Help me.

Yesterday was a good day for Asian markets. Hang Seng Index was up by 1.20%. Yet why my Greater China Fund makes up a measly 0.19%, and my Asian Pacific Dynamic Income fund lost 0.11%? Not logical. Was this affected by the appreciating Ringgit in any way? I'm at loss for words!
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you do know that fund managers may be investing in SOME stocks that may be in the yellow instead of green sometimes right.

example. klse goes up by 100 points because 20 stocks went up the day but other 200 stocks stayed the same on the same day.
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 20 2017, 01:11 AM)
But most PRC stocks are listed on HK or US market. Look at the top holding assets of the CIMB Greater China fund, none are actually listed in China.
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Don't know where you got your information from

Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Taiwan 8.30%
2 Alibaba Group Holding China 6.00%
3 China Mobile China 4.20%
4 Tencent Holdings China 4.20%
5 Sina China 3.80%
6 Weibo China 3.80%
7 Bank of China (Hong Kong) Hong Kong 2.80%
8 China Construction Bank China 2.80%
9 China Pacific Insurance Group China 2.70%
10 AIA Group Hong Kong 2.60%

country allocation.

China 67.70%
Hong Kong 14.90%
Taiwan 13.60%
Australia 2.40%
Liquid Assets 1.40%


asset allocation.
Schroder - ISF Greater China 97.35%
Cash 2.65%
Total 100.00%
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post Jan 20 2017, 10:43 AM

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my two month old portfolio that I built after trump. only thing I got rid of is kapchai and anita

I'm happy with the returns. contestchris chill just take things slowly. I'm not letting it go on autopilot.
Total ROI to date 2%

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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Jan 20 2017, 11:39 AM)
Wow, ROI 2% since Nov 2016?
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i did a major change onto my portfolio. Added 30k on to of my 20k portfolio post election day

Got Eastspring emerging market, ponzi 2.o, Manulife US, Esther Bond fund, RHB AIF

The ones that maintained were Manulife India, AmAsia, TA global.

Prior to Trump, my roi was 6% and was brought down by Malaysia funds to near negative returns.

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 20 2017, 01:44 PM)
LOL. Always failed to understand what you have against EI Global Emerging Market Fund ! You can see for yourself, that's his big bulk of the gain after switching over to the new port.
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jan 20 2017, 01:46 PM)
Looking at gain alone is like looking at 2D object. There is no depth. Add in the dimension of risk and you see things in 3D. More realistic, more shiok wan  bruce.gif . I promise.  cool2.gif

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I can always switch to kap Chai next year or the year after . Fuck yeah intra house free switch for the win. that capital was from kap Chai fyi and I stop topping up. hahahaha.

plug and play is my style. anyways you are right on ta global vs Manulife. I'll just keep them both as status quo as they already hit their target allocation.
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QUOTE(john123x @ Jan 20 2017, 04:30 PM)
My portfolio dated 20 jan
CIMB-Principal Global Titans Fund -20% 
CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund -20%
CIMB-Principal Greater China Equity Fund -25% 
AmAsia Pacific REITs - Class B (MYR)  -10%
Affin Hwang Select Asia (Ex Japan) Quantum Fund -25%
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Affin Hwang Select Asia and Ponzi 2.0 overlaps each other and to top it off affin hwang has a higher volality and more Malaysian allocation.

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QUOTE(ykit_88 @ Jan 20 2017, 04:38 PM)
Is there any fund that invest in US small cap?
Coz Trump policies seems to be helping these kind of companies
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his policies cannot sustain themselves for long. you provide a tax cut and pulling companies and factories to stay in the states but honestly I rather have cheap workers from under developed countries than Americans who ask for higher pay and medical coverage.

my take away on how great he will make America great again.
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jan 20 2017, 05:02 PM)
Well if it blows up America is cheap. America is cheap. That's like saying Berkshire is cheap.
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they are looking to start a war they may not even be able to pay with China but prod and poke they are doing onto our Chinese look overlords. they fucked themselves over when the populist and racist bigots votes trump over Hillary who thought the people of America are too stupid to vote for him. pfft.
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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Jan 20 2017, 05:42 PM)
A Asia Pacific reit good? FSM din recommment
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check the volality and the returns and compare it to AmAsia REITs, from there you get your answer. also infrastructure vs property. I rather invest in properties rather Goverment projects.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 20 2017, 06:12 PM)
I don't know to use who's risk rating. FSM rates AmAsia Reits 10, highest risk. It's higher than EI Global Emerging Market ( risk rating 9 ), but sifu Xuzen seems to think it is fixed income level of risk.
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think it is because properties have always been giving good returns? when it's cheap people will buy when it's expensive people make money from it. I think to him it's a win win situation. plus what's not to like properties in a growing market that had potential. that's my take on it. Asian properties are always good as compared to the old and saturated Japan, Inflated prices in Australia and Canada along with developing countries.
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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Jan 20 2017, 06:19 PM)
Your port is play safe style and didn't go for the high return funds? Is it because u r of age already?

The risk over return ratio is FSM risk rating or volatility?
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I hope you are prepared to get whacked when you tell Master Xuzen he is old.

Anyways he did his research. stable volality wins the race in a long run. think of a reliable cheap family car that will bring you from point A to point B at a slow and steady pace, you may face potholes and such but you reach your destination.

getting high risk funds are like buying a ferrari. sure you get to point B faster but at the cost of it breaking down easily from a minor pothole or worsy engine damage.

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