Doesnt makes sense to me at all. The bank says its a new BNM ruling. Anyone heard of this news?
Branch misinformed
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Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.15, Strictly for FD Discussion Only
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Doesnt makes sense to me at all. The bank says its a new BNM ruling. Anyone heard of this news? Branch misinformed This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 5 2017, 10:44 AM |
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Dec 30 2016, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Dec 30 2016, 01:01 PM) I've never come across these issues. Mine is auto renew and interest plow back in.Which bank you are having problem with ? For either one to sign FD, what is your instruction on the interest and upon maturity ? I also have not heard of this until today. They say it's a new BNM policy I suspect this branch had wrongly interpreted some new policy. It totally doesn't makes sense to me This post has been edited by idoblu: Dec 30 2016, 01:32 PM |
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QUOTE(VinceCheong @ Dec 30 2016, 07:33 PM) Really? Never heard such rubbish before. You've signed a mandate to support the "either one to sign". Did you try arguing that it's ridiculous with the person in charge? I did "argue" but you must understand these are not the type of person you want to shout and argue with lol. I don't want to piss off anyone as I still want to go back to place more FDsThey explain that joint accounts either one can withdraw the interest only which again don't makes sense since I select auto renew with interest Anyway I want to ask this - does all your FD receipts typed written there "either one to withdraw" ? Long time ago it does but few years now it just have two names there and Not written anything This post has been edited by idoblu: Dec 30 2016, 07:41 PM |
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QUOTE(VinceCheong @ Dec 30 2016, 07:45 PM) My definition of "arguing" is from a professional standpoint, lol not like shouting like a monkey hahaha. But do you get a copy of the mandate?Not too sure, because CIMB's 'paper' is only a receipt and not an official document. I don't remember what was written on the PBB's FD certificate though. But regardless, if you have signed a mandate, I don't see how much of an issue they can make for this. |
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Jan 4 2017, 10:03 AM) One forummer recently posted that joint acct closing need both person to be present to close FD. In HL yesterday my relative closed one joint acct FD. Just one person present. So that info on BNM requirement is not true. Yeah it's not true. I went to another branch and withdrew no problem BR called to enquire about FD maturing 3 weeks later. Surprised that they call so early. It's just this particular branch misinformed |
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Jan 5 2017, 06:26 PM
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Want to ask about this "Survivorship Clause" especially for AFFIN Bank. Is it a special form to fill out or automatically open joint acct already enforced?
How about other banks? TIA |
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Jul 25 2017, 05:20 AM
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Those 18 months deposit, do they calculate interest after 12 months or at the end of 18months?
Say example if I put in 100k, 4.2% for 18 Months / what will be my total sum at maturity? TIA |
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Jul 25 2017, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jul 26 2017, 12:41 AM) For 18 months, it depends what the particular bank offers. It can be monthly payment of interest (Bank Rakyat minimum 5k). Payment of interest every three months, 6 months, after 12 months and another payment on maturity, or payment of interest only on maturity. Thank you for the explanation. No wonder here I'm cracking my head comparing calculations from a few online calculators and doing my own manual ways.....gets a different result. For previous Bank Islam promo, it was 4.25% and interest paid at the end of 18 months, minimum only 5k. For previous, Affin Bank promo, it was 4.2% and interest paid every 6 months, minimum 100k. MBSB and Affin are the two places that sometimes offer you a table of choices at certain rates. In the case of step promos, the interest is usually paid at the end of each step including those of 18 months. Normally conventional board rate offer for 18 months pays the interest at the end on maturity. As to what will be the total sum on maturity after 18 months, the simple answer is that it will never be RM 106,300 no matter which bank or method of payment is used. This is only a rough approximation as it does not follow banking practices on calculating Interest Bearing Days. As far as I am aware, there is no intelligent calculator in the internet to determine effective Interest Bearing Days (you can take the view that the practical problem of the valid maturity date is too trivial for those who know, or that is beyond the abilities of programmers to handle due to the variations, unexpected changes and local issues involved). As an example, if the Effective Day is 31 May 2017, what is the Maturity Day after 18 months? Or what if the Effective Day was 30 August? What on earth is 18 months or one and a half year as far as a computer program is concerned? Luckily for most of us dealing with not so large amounts, the actual amount which changes with the Effective Day and Month is only a matter of some ringgit off for each mistake in calculating Interest Bearing Days. (around RM 11.5068.. for each day off for RM 100,000 and 4.2% in a 365 day year system.) I also noticed that say my Monthly FD maturity date is 23rd, if I go redeem it on the 26th, they will still give me some interest for that 3 days but not further down say 10 days. I do not know the exact point when they stop giving you interest. Very strange but I'm wont argue with them.... |
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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jul 27 2017, 01:27 PM) If you are really interested in knowing in advance what to expect or to understand why you get a certain amount, you only need to start by calculating:- Check out this online cal which I can enter the exact dates - https://financial-calculators.com/compound-...rest-calculatorInterest Payable per Interest Bearing Day say 100,000 x 4.2 / 100 / 365 You than continue by multiplying with Number of Interest Bearing Days to get the Interest. The problem here for the internet or app programmer (or even your own spreadsheet) is the different ways each bank treat the determination of the Maturity Day and Month, and the question of how the bank treat Leap Year calculations. Unfortunately, there is no single standard or principles. On the FD, the bank states the maturity date (unfortunately most banks do not make it a practice to mention the day!), the Number of Interest Bearing Days is usually what you will get by subtracting the Effective Date from the Maturity Date if use a spreadsheet for the two dates. If you want to know before placing the FD, you must know how the bank will determine the Maturity Date, otherwise you can calculate for a few Possible Maturity Days. To avoid absurd mistakes, the date display should also show the day besides the date in your spreadsheet. You also need to refer/check whether the Maturity Date is a local holiday somehow. Having done all the above, it must also be noted that different banks have different ways of paying interest which can result in 1 or 2 sens off the result. After reverse calculate what the various banks actually pay out in my previous FDs, there appears to be at least 4 different methods practiced locally as to how banks treat the rounding problem to give a fair/unfair interest payments. I do not have access to their programs, but I can reverse calculate by different ways to correctly prefigure out the payment using a spreadsheet. On the cases where we show up after the Maturity Date, some banks may give extra interest at either the promo rate or at board rate if the Maturity Date fall on a weekend or holiday. In this case, usually first Bank Working Day - Maturity Date multiplied by the Interest Payable per Interest Bearing Day. Thus can check whether following the bank following promo, board rate or some strange system. But usually we cannot get the extra interest at all if we come a bit later. This sort of situation does not arise for Bank Rakyat or UOB or any bank that predetermine and adjust the Maturity Date to fall on a Bank Working Day. However, there are some unexpected local problems like say local holiday for some death, funeral, installation, change official birthday date, victory celebration, election polling etc - where the interest treatment may be dubious. There is some bank specific pro and con with regards to automatic transfer of the full amount to a savings account on maturity. Would this helps? Any idea how AFFIN calculates and what is considered interested bearing days to them? |
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Affin got any good FD offers?
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if say normal rate for 1 month is 3.00% but bank gave special rate say 3.25% after 1 month when it automatic renew every month, will the rate be 3.00% or stay at 3.25%? thanks |
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Oct 26 2018, 11:08 AM) promo rate always valid for 1 cycle. next cycle/renewal would be to board rate. thanks....looks like too much work for one month. i thought they would only give promo rates for more than 1 monthif renewal rate always get promo rate, then no points banks keeps changing rate lor. ask the bank for the t&c on renewal to be sure. |
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Hi guys, so I went for the Affin CNY offer under islamic thingy with no CASA - 4.49% - 18 months - compounded every 6 months with interest added back to the principle.
I noticed that they already calculated the "selling price" but it doesnt seem to be right. I wonder if under islamic thingy, the way they calculate is not the same or what? example if my principle is 130k, shouldnt my "selling price" be 138,953.53? instead on the slip, its printed 138,747.50 a difference of 206.03 any sifu knows how to calculate this? Thanks in advance This post has been edited by idoblu: Feb 1 2019, 11:51 AM |
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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Feb 1 2019, 02:52 PM) QUOTE(cclim2011 @ Feb 1 2019, 02:49 PM) Bank told u compounded every half year? I think it is not even compounded after a year. Thanks for the explanation. I understand how they got the figure now but I specifically asked that interest be Not credited to my saving account but added back to my FD.130000 * 547/365 * 4.49/100 = 8747.50 Yes they said interest will be calculated every 6 months and be either paid out or added back in. I opted for the latter. |
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