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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.15, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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Kyan0411
post Sep 29 2020, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(mavistan89 @ Sep 29 2020, 12:40 AM)
Looks like all banks assume there will be an increase in OPR soon thus all promo rate only applicable to 6 mths to 1 year. 3 mths no more
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I dont think is assumption of increase in OPR, more towards no more/no substantial cut in OPR expected within the next 6-12 months.

This is sensible as most banks are giving repayment assistance once moratorium ends 30 Sep. If there is further cut, last one will be in Nov20. Downside risk is resurgeance of covid19 cases and another lockdown imposed.
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post Sep 30 2020, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(gchowyh @ Sep 29 2020, 02:40 PM)
I was told OTC today that not possible to place online but when I came back to check, it is possible indeed.

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I was able to place eFD via FPX for RHB but conventional one
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post Oct 6 2020, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(tim the director @ Oct 6 2020, 09:44 AM)
if you place ambank fd otc, you can only withdraw otc. only fd placement which was originally done via app can be redeem via app. thats ambank weird limitation.
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I think should be the same with other banks.

OTC FD, though appearing on ebanking as they are linked, doesnt mean they are eFD.

Unless some banks allow that, but what about the certificate?

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post Oct 6 2020, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(??!! @ Oct 6 2020, 01:20 PM)
I renewed at this rate..no CaSa earmark requirement
My AM BANK eFD placed via website but redemption online via their app only
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Website or apps is eFD too?
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post Oct 7 2020, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Oct 7 2020, 08:01 AM)
Let us all remind FD-issuing banks that the current inflation rate is 3 percent.
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Inflation as measured by CPI is -1% y-o-y though
While inflation in august -1.4% against same month last year

Not saying prices of goods are dropping (cause they definitely are not), the CPI reduction is mainly due to lower crude oil prices
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post Oct 9 2020, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Oct 9 2020, 06:00 AM)
This is pathetic. Guess HLB no longer hunting for funds to grow loan amid slow loan growth in the industry. HLB has been hunting funds for past years with higher rates than peers
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post Oct 9 2020, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Oct 9 2020, 05:43 PM)
It is still higher than board rate right?

https://www.hlb.com.my/en/personal-banking/...ed-deposit.html
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Of course. Im comparing campaign rates in the market. Lower than RHB 2.45%, which usually cant be the case.

Anyway, i dont foresee campaign rates to go up until next year august/september
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post Nov 16 2020, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(gsc @ Nov 15 2020, 07:55 PM)
I tried to withdraw UOB FD which was renewed to board rate only. When trying to withdraw online, it mentioned there is a penalty for premature withdrawal. The amount is almost 4 times on interest accumulated.
Anyone know about this penalty?

Last time when I pre-mature withdrew my Citi Forex FD, I was told to pay the penalty for the entire 12 months
on pre-mature withdrawal..
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Penalty forefeit cannot be higher than total interest earned.
FD is principal guaranteed products (unless is forex FD which subject to FX rate movement).

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post Dec 1 2020, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(mamamia @ Dec 1 2020, 06:15 PM)
This is first time i experience such case as compared to other bank that also provide Islamic FD...

As i know there is some term of Islamic which they used compare to conventional FD, like Interest = Profit...

In this case, really need to avoid Bank Islam by all means...  ranting.gif
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Profit rate or rate of return provided by Islamic banks are indicative as stated. You are entrusting your money to them to invest in a project. The return from the project is shared between the bank and you in a predetermined ratio. In any case, banks usually will grant the promised profit rate but is not necessary the case, especially so many OPR cuts for past 12 months
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post Apr 1 2021, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(hurtedheart @ Apr 1 2021, 12:00 AM)
Hi, may I know is there a revision in bank rakyat's FD rate recently? I am having FD placement where the tenure is still current. I noticed the interest payout for March is different from the previous months I had. The difference is not few sen or few ringgit but over RM10 which is quite uncommon to me. I found there is no recent OPR revision but why was the interest payout much lesser than expected  rclxub.gif ? Thanks
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Can u elaborate more on when you placed the FD? And you are comparing the rates between what periods.

By the way, the board rates cannot be change without change in OPR.
However, the campaign rates are special rates offered by the banks. Banks can determine what special rates they want to give based on their outlook on the OPR, and whether they need funds, how long the tenure etc etc.

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post Apr 1 2021, 12:30 AM

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Ambank FPX
9 months 2.50%
18 months 2.70%

Min. 10k

https://www.ambank.com.my/eng/promotions-pa...e-eFD-FPX-Promo

I dont dare to put for 18 months 🙊

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post Apr 1 2021, 12:32 AM

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Hong leong

3 months 2.30%
6 and 12 months 2.35%
18 & 24 months 2.40%

https://www.hlb.com.my/en/personal-banking/...fd-i-promo.html
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post Apr 1 2021, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(hurtedheart @ Apr 1 2021, 12:32 AM)
The FD is a 5 year tenure FD which will be due in 2024, it was not placed under any campaign. I am comparing Jan, Feb & Mar 2021. I got the same interest payout for Jan & Feb 2021, but not for March
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That's weird. I would think for february will have lesser interest/profits due to lesser days in the month. Is payout lag by one month?
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post Apr 1 2021, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Apr 1 2021, 10:01 AM)
Haha when @Kyan0411 mentioned the phrase 'don't dare', the first thing that popped up is about Ambank and the hefty fine early this year.

I agree that this promo is very attractive! I am not sure how fast the FD rate will go up within this 1 year plus period, whether it can gain +0.5%. My certs with Ambank matures in the last week of April and then BR in May. Will see if other banks also showing any upward trend.

Most likely I will split them into 18m and 9m, and also some to other banks.
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While im aware the fine did affected them badly, i dont think it will threathen their survivability.

Just that I know OPR is likely to be raised sooner or later. It can come as soon as this year end so I wont be taking this interest rate risk and lock in for so long. The likelihood of OPR raising by at least 25bps is very high in 18 months time. 25bps increase = breakeven, anything more is an opportunity loss. No worth to take the risk from my pov as risk manager
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post Apr 1 2021, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Apr 1 2021, 11:36 AM)
So, if the OPR +0.25%, it will be 2.00%. The last time we have that figure was from 5th May to 7th July 2020. I don't have any samples of FD rate offered by banks within this period last year as I dumped everything to BR. I will browse back posts made last year to get some indicative rates. Thanks for the input.
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If we take current level as the benchmark - 2.35%-2.45% FD rate, OPR at 1.75%, there is a liquidity premium of 60-70 bps.

If OPR goes to at least 2.00%, add with 60-70bps, that's 2.60-2.70% akin breakeven level for ambank's 18 months FD rate

Honestly, the competition for retail deposits will only become more intense as loan growth gradually pick up

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post Apr 1 2021, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Apr 1 2021, 01:02 PM)
Yeah, BR was very aggressive at that time. I excluded it from the outlook at the moment as there has been no promo from them for an extended period of time already. Perhaps they are confident that their base rate is still good.

With all this, I am also having a second thought about locking it for 18 months. Will be a good time for us FD players, to finally see an upward trend.
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9 months is a safe bet but 18 months not so much.
I want to see what HLB can offer. Usually, HLB, RHB and Ambank being the mid tier players (exclude those smaller players) are the ones who are more agressive in term of rates

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post Apr 6 2021, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(ckokwei @ Apr 5 2021, 06:06 PM)
ambank ebanking. transfer money from maybank via fpx. Money deducted at maybank. AMbank show not successful . refund take 5 days.

is this kind of trick from them ? imagine set promo  rate, then when customer do the banking, payment made all fail. bank can hold the money and return after 5 days.
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Definitely not Ambank fault
I used FPX few time from HL and PBB to Ambank, all appeared okay and instant.

I heard maybank FPX/giro to other banks often have issue though
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post Apr 6 2021, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(ckokwei @ Apr 6 2021, 12:01 PM)
No bank will admit their fault. So become FPX(middle man) fault. Or my incident, the branch manager say is my fault key in the wrong name. Ambank account holder A, I type account holder B name.

But wait a second ? Do we key in our name or anybody name when we do placement FD online ? Or there is hidden column ?
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I'm just trying to be objective here.

FPX doesnt require key-ing name or even recipient account or details
U select FPX placement to FD from ambank website/ apps, then it will redirect you to online website to sign in, key in OTP and done.

When this kind of error happen, the recipient bank might not be in the best position to investigate because they did not receive the funds. The funds is either with the original bank or stuck with FPX (which will be reversed later)

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post Apr 6 2021, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(ckokwei @ Apr 6 2021, 02:57 PM)
So the manager told me i key in the wrong name which is totally ridiculous reason. I wonder did he use fpx before.

recipient bank - no receive (not my problem, i did not receive)
original bank - already show successful (not my problem, you ask me transfer, i transfer)

FPX - i'm just a bridge to connect both of you.

Customer - just keep quite and wait for reverse.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Pretty sure the manager doesnt know a thing on FPX. That's typical of frontline.

I experienced that with PBB to HLB before. But money was returned after few hours. Sometimes unavoidable.

Cant really blame any of the bank cause like u said, they also dont know what went wrong. But need to keep the details in case money doesnt return
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post Apr 6 2021, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(ckokwei @ Apr 6 2021, 05:23 PM)
get back my money after 24 hours. but in dilemma now to try again or not. worry second stuck again.  doh.gif  doh.gif
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No choice u just gotta try.
If u have another bank, try instant transfer from Mbb to that bank, and FPX from there

I tried HLB and PBB, no issue yesterday and this morning

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