QUOTE(kampungboy123 @ Jul 10 2022, 11:54 AM)
Yes, MYR started depreciating since 2011 (actually if u got a very long term chart, MYR going down since 1980s), but my point is the
SPEED of decline before and after 1MDB was officially known on January 2015 when Wall Street Journal started to cover this scandal with documents leaking out. Here are my facts with the charts I can find on the internet:
13 Jul 2012 USD/MYR was 3.18653
03 Jan 2015 USD/MYR was 3.517 (dropped 10.37% over 2.5yrs)
13 Sep 2015 USD/MYR was 4.4585 (dropped 26.77% over 8months)
Furthermore, markets move even before the 2015. Why? because sure got smart people knew something is brewing. By the time, it is official, these "insiders" already made most of the profits. If you google for the time line of the scandal, the whole thing started since 2010 in May when 1MDB signed deals with Qatar and UAE. In 2013, Goldman Sachs helped raised US$10Billion. In 2014, The Edge magazine reported 1MDB had USD$10billion debts.
The whole scandal started way way BEFORE 2015 and like I said, "insiders" already started to push down the currency because they KNEW. Then, later when EVERYONE knew in 2015, the falloff ACCELERATED.
Turkey got no EPF? I googled. They got so called social security institution. I cannot post the link because I am still under probation. Here is what I found:
The Social Security Institution (Turkish: Sosyal GΓΌvenlik Kurumu (SGK)) is the governing authority of the Turkish social security system. It was established by the Social Security Institution Law No:5502, which was published in the Official Gazette No: 26173 on June 20, 2006. This brought five different retirement systems that affected civil servants, contractual paid workers, agricultural paid workers, and self-employed workers into a single retirement system offering equal actuarial rights and obligations.[1]
You can double check.
Yes, it is true and I will not deny that Malaysia CURRENTLY does not have run away inflation. But, is that a reason to let our guard down? If you don't nip the problem in the bud, it will be very difficult to cure when it got out of hand. It's just like cancer treatment, for that matter, any medical problems. PREVENTION is always, ALWAYS better than treatment. PREVENT possibility of runaway inflation is better than having to treat it when it is running out of hand.
Just discussing my view. NOT intended to quarrel.
If you looked at the previous charts again,... You will notice that, even with the high opr rate, (@3.25%) the MYR vs USD is still not much improvement,..
So will rising opr rate to 3.25% this time, has significant impact to the status of MYR to usd to a point that malaysians won't be poor?
As a matter of interest,... From the attached charts, it is interesting to note that, when opr falls and stayed low ( 2020), the MYR also can rises too...
Thus you blamed bnm for making all m'sians poorer when opr was raised by 0.25 to 2.25%...
QUOTE(kampungboy123 @ Jul 7 2022, 09:31 AM)
CONGRATULATIONS BNM!, you decided to push Ringgit lower and make ALL malaysians poorer. Thank You!
Which I think is not so "correct"....
BNM cannot just do prevention to control inflation by rising interest rate indiscrimately....
For if BNM do that, there could be serious negatives consequences that could affect the economy.
Me too are "Just discussing my view. NOT intended to quarrel"
Yes even if turkey has retirement schemes,... Is it mandatory for all private employees like malaysia?. Since they are new (official gazette 2006), how big is the fund size? does it has positive inflow?
Anyway, I think cannot compare Turkey to Malaysia and use Turkey to foretell that Malaysia will be like Turkey.
Many reasons why Turkey is having problems (which I see Malaysia does not have) *yet* π
Ex:,
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%...e%20adjustments.
Btw, my guess which could be wrong the MYR to usd remained low could partly also be due to BNM's "Prohibiting Facilitation of NDF Related Transactions" since 2016.
Need to research the impact if interested to know in depth.
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