Got this from Captain Lim's website

Malaysia Airlines

Second Officers

A Cadet Pilot after his type endorsement will be paid a basic salary of RM 4, 229.00 per month
On posting to the fleet and not under supervision of another copilot RM 5,069.00
Second year on fleet RM 5,360.00
Third year and thereafter RM 5,668.00

First Officers

Narrow Body (B737) ..... RM 5,984.00 to RM 9,501.00
Wide Body (A330/B777/B747) RM 9,146.00 to RM 17,009.00

Captains

Narrow Body (B737) RM 9,129.00 to RM 20,349.00
Wide Body (A330/B777/B747) RM 18,409.00 to RM 28,349.00

Allowances:

Productivity Allowances per hour

Narrow Body - RM 48.00 (Captain) RM 29.00 (co-pilot)
Wide Body - RM 72.00 (Captain) RM 43.00 (co-pilot)

When flying exceeds 80 hours, the rate is RM 216.00 (Captain) RM 144.00 (co-pilot)

Meals and Night Stop allowances:

Ranges from about RM150.00 to RM 600.00 a night, depending on city.

Average Gross Salary (with allowances & dependent on seniority - estimates only)

Second Officer RM 6,000.00 to RM 8,000.00
First Officer (Narrow Body) RM 10,000.00 to RM 12,000.00
First Officer (Wide Body) RM 14,000.00 to RM 16,000.00
Captain (Narrow Body) RM 15,000.00 to RM 18,000.00
Captain (Wide Body) RM 24,000.00 to RM 35,000.00

Singapore Airlines

Second Officers

From S$ 2,035.00 to S$ 3,325.00 per month

First Officers

From S$ 4,925.00/S$ 5,150.00 to S$ 8,500.00 (B777/A340)
From S$ 5,375.00/S$ 5,600.00 to S$ 9,250.00 (B747-400)

Captains

From S$ 8,850.00/S$ 9,300.00 to S$ 15,300.00 (B777/A340)
From S$ 9,550.00/S$ 10,000.00 to S$ 16,500.00(B747-400)

Notes on pilots' allowances in SIA:

Second Officers on line training do not receive productivity allowances except for meal and night stop allowances.
Cargo pilots are paid per diem of S$ 8.00 per hour when away from base.
First Officer and Captain productivity allowances are S$ 36.00 and S$ 55.00 respectively.
Main Fleet pilots get productivity allowance for half the flying hours when they are traveling as a passenger on duty.
A First Officer gets about S$ 4,000.00 to S$ 6,000.00 total allowances (estimate only).
A Captain gets about S$ 5,000.00 to S$ 10,000.00 total allowances (estimate only).
Rates for meal allowances are dependent on the cities.

jealous edi lar..

Good pay for a pilot They deserve it

Good pay because it is a high risk job. One small mistake can kill hundreds.

it looks like MAS offers very good salaries to their pilots..
but why there are so many pilots wanna leave MAS for other airlines?

I think this is the latest pay scale for MAS pilot. Their pilots used to complaint a lot of the pay a few years ago

good pay,they deserve it,they have to work on shift and the plane safety depends on them.i wish i took the pilot training after spm 4 years ago.haih

They do work on shifts but there is a strict limit on the number of hours they can work at one go. You don't want a tired or sleepy pilot

One thing people haven't mentioned is the effect on family life. I have an uncle who's in the flight crew, he is away for a days at a time. It does affect you if you have family and children so the pay does something to compensate for it.

Finally there's the risk factor that people have mentioned. The pilot is responsible for the whole plane. If the pilot screws up, even if nobody dies etc, he/she could be grounded for life, never to fly again.

Anyone know how long it takes to get to the top of the ladder?

i have one friend now trainning to become commercial pilot like MAS...

Trainning cost :

rm10000 to RM20000 to get the trainee licence (Like u pass undang then only u can learn to drive)

400 HOUR * rm250/RM400 per hour rate = RM100000 to RM160000 to quality to become
pilot ( My last time driving hour is 16hour * RM16/RM20 = RM800 / RM1000 to get car license.

Not incluing exam fee and etc..total cost to become just a A737 pilot is about RM150000 to RM200000.....not guanteree somemore MAS will hire u to become their pilot cos MAS aheemmm tend to pick their race to become their pilot.

It a lot of money and a gamble also...

Hope this info help u guys who wish to became pilot...

sigh..should have study hard and become a pilot instead

Below is just basic salary.Plus all you are looking at RM 60,000 ( TAX free and we say what you see is what you get, NO tax,sosco,EPF deduction ). For FO you are looking at rm 38,000.

No wonder so many MAS pilots rushing over.



CAPTAIN SALARY:



Monthly Salary

Starting salary is Dhs 28,060 per month and is reviewed annually. (1 US$ = 3.66 UAE Dirhams). The salary is tax free.

Productivity Pay
For each block hour above approximately 78 hours per month, an additional Dhs 460.

Additional Changes planned for 1st May 2007
Adjustment to the monthly basic salary - a minimum increase of 6.0% resulting in a new starting salary of Dhs 29,750 per month.

Introduction of Hourly Flying Pay - flying pay will be paid for all block hours commencing from the first hour flown to the threshold level above which productivity pay will commence. The hourly flying pay rates will be Dhs 45 per block hour. For example, a Captain flying 75 block hours in a given month will receive Dhs 3,375 as Flying Pay.

ADDITIONAL BENEFITS:

Place of Employment
All positions are permanent and based in Dubai, one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the Middle East, well known for its wealth of fantastic shopping, sporting opportunities and a wonderful lifestyle.

Provident Fund
Emirates provides a company sponsored provident fund.

Company Contributions:
First 10 years - 12% of basic salary
After 10 years - 15% of basic salary

Entitlement on Resignation:
Within the first 5 years - no entitlement to Company Contributions - however an End of Service Benefit applies.
Between 5 and 7 years - the entitlement is 75% of the company's contribution.
After 7 years - the entitlement is 100% of the company's contribution.

Accommodation
We provide fully furnished accommodation (including water, electricity, gas and maintenance costs) or a housing allowance of Dhs 10,590 per month.

Transport
All transport while on duty is supplied by the company. Additionally, an interest free car loan is available for new joiners (Dhs 55,000).

Health Cover
Free health cover (medical and dental) for the employee. Generously subsidised health cover (medical and dental) is also provided for spouse and dependent children.

Employee Insurance Benefits
Insurance benefits for the employee include Loss of Licence Insurance (36 x basic monthly salary) and both Life Assurance and Accident Insurance (48x basic monthly salary).

Children's Educational Benefits
A generous education assistance package is provided for a maximum of three dependent children (between the ages of 4 and 19, in full-time school equivalent education). The allowances per child are:

Primary School:
Reimbursement of 100% of the first Dhs 30,000 and 90% of the remainder up to a limit of Dhs 28,000 per academic year.

Secondary School:
Reimbursement of 100% of the first Dhs 48,000 and 90% of the remainder up to a limit of Dhs 45,000 per academic year.

Profit Sharing
The company has in the past few years paid a tax free profit share bonus for all employees, which is dependent on company performance.

Annual Leave
42 days per year.

Privilege Travel
Free air travel for employee, spouse and eligible dependant children once a year to the Annual Leave Destination. On other occasions, after a qualifying period, discounted travel is available.

Exchange Rate Protection Pay

This is a compensation mechanism in addition to the monthly salary which protects employees from monetary fluctuations due to the appreciation of home country currencies against the UAE Dirham (AED). Approximate monthly payouts for a sample group of currencies are represented in the following table, which is based on the exchange rates for December 2006. Actual payment in any given month would vary up or down depending upon the exchange rate of the given month.

Exchange Rate Protection Pay First Officer Captain
Starting basic salary in AED 19,660 28,060
AUD Australian Dollar 1,300 1,860
NZD New Zealand Dollar 1,210 1,735
CAD Canadian Dollar 1,245 1,785
GBP Pound Sterling 1,265 1,815
EUR Euro 1,210 1,735
ZAR South African Rand 280 405
BRL Brazilian Real 1,455 2,085


FIRST OFFICER SALARY:


Monthly Salary
Starting salary is Dhs 19,660 per month and is reviewed annually. (1 US$ = 3.66 UAE Dirhams). The salary is tax free.

On promotion to Captain, a pilot's salary is increased by ten steps. The minimum initial salary on promotion to Captain is Dhs 28,060 per month (minimum Dhs 29,750 per month with effect from 1st May 2007).
Additional Changes planned for 1st May 2007

Adjustment to the monthly basic salary - a minimum increase of 6.0% resulting in a new starting salary of Dhs 20,840 per month.

Introduction of Hourly Flying Pay - flying pay will be paid for all block hours commencing from the first hour flown to the threshold level above which productivity pay will commence. The hourly flying pay rates will be Dhs 35 per block hour. For example, a First Officer flying 75 block hours in a given month will receive Dhs 2,625 as Flying Pay.

Productivity Pay

For each block hour above approximately 78 hours per month, an additional Dhs 325.

ADDITIONAL BENEFITS:

Place of Employment
All positions are permanent and based in Dubai, one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the Middle East, well known for its wealth of fantastic shopping, sporting opportunities and a wonderful lifestyle.

Provident Fund
Emirates provides a company sponsored provident fund.

Company Contributions:
First 10 years - 12% of basic salary
After 10 years - 15% of basic salary

Entitlement on Resignation:
Within the first 5 years - no entitlement to Company Contributions - however End of Service Benefit applies.
Between 5 and 7 years - the entitlement is 75% of the company's contribution.
After 7 years - the entitlement is 100% of the company's contribution.

Accommodation
We provide fully furnished accommodation (including water, electricity, gas and maintenance costs) or a housing allowance of Dhs 9,430 per month.

Transport
All transport while on duty is supplied by the company. Additionally, an interest free car loan is available for new joiners (Dhs 55,000).

Health Cover
Free health cover (medical and dental) for the employee. Generously subsidised health cover (medical and dental) is also provided to spouse and dependent children.

Employee Insurance Benefits
Insurance benefits for the employee include Loss of Licence Insurance (36 x basic monthly salary) and both Life Assurance and Accident Insurance (48x basic monthly salary).

Children's Educational Benefits
A generous education assistance package is provided for a maximum of three dependent children (between the ages of 4 and 19, in full-time school equivalent education). The allowances per child are:

Primary School:
Reimbursement of 100% of the first Dhs 10,000 and 90% of the remainder up to a limit of Dhs 28,000 per academic year.

Secondary School:
Reimbursement of 100% of the first Dhs 20,000 and 90% of the remainder up to a limit of Dhs 45,000 per academic year.

Profit Sharing
The company has in the past few years paid a tax free profit share bonus for all employees, which is dependent on company performance.

Annual Leave
42 days per year.

Privilege Travel
Free air travel for employee, spouse and eligible dependant children once a year to the Annual Leave Destination. On other occasions, after a qualifying period, discounted travel is available.

Exchange Rate Protection Pay

This is a compensation mechanism in addition to the monthly salary which protects employees from monetary fluctuations due to the appreciation of home country currencies against the UAE Dirham (AED). Approximate monthly payouts for a sample group of currencies are represented in the following table, which is based on the exchange rates for December 2006. Actual payment in any given month would vary up or down depending upon the exchange rate of the given month.



Got the abve from http://www.malaysianwings.com/forum/index....opic=4856&st=20

I think you forgot one more benefit, the mile-high club

Wah, the price is like that arr?
I oso want to be come a pilot lah...

not to forget those stewardess!!!

I think most people want to become a pilot because of the stewardesses....

Even if u study hard, one very important thing u must remember, u need a good eye-side to qualify as one pilot's requirement.For those who "pakai" cermin, how ler ? Not just be book worm and not jaga eye lor.

I'm so jealous. I should jaga my health before....

Another spam and this goes into kopitiam.

Thank you.

I think this is one of the reason. For me, i will focus on earning money first

so does anyone know wat road hav to be taken to be a pilot?
for example after spm wat course should i take ?
from wat i know 'acquire' this pilot license is not consider a further study
so there is no loan for this...

so does anyone can give me idea on how to be pilot..

(my english so bad i know)

People who become pilot would have to face a difficult social life because they are just too busy. Thats one reason i dont wish to become pilot despite the high salary. If it is a 9-5 job then i will just take it. lol.

9-5 job, right....

Pilot during flight announcement onboard in the air, "We are now 25,000ft above sea level and about 1 hour more to the destina...oh crap its 4.59pm!!! I need to go home or else my wife would kill me!!!"

Then make a U-turn after travelling 1200km from home....

If you want 9-5 job, better stick to office job.

i dont get it.Why pilot salary is high and engineer is a little bit less than pilot?Why people only said that pilot risk their life onboard?Engineer also same what.I just dont get it...pilot is not hard mah...After take off,they all just push an AUTOPILOT button.What so good about it?Most of people said that pilot is has high IQ..Dough...........SPM level also can enter the academy lol....i JUST DONT GET IT...

High risk job?

I hate heights .. heightophobia .. hahaha .. I dont wanna be Pilot even they pay MYR100k ..

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Added on February 18, 2007, 12:14 amI hate heights .. heightophobia .. hahaha .. I dont wanna be Pilot even they pay MYR100k ..

This post has been edited by sakuraguy: Feb 18 2007, 12:14 AM

you must experience it then only you'll know what kind of training a pilot has to go through so as to prepare himself to handle the worst case actual scenario. you also don't know how much effort and hardwork he had put in to pass through all his training.

yes, there are many spm leavers as pilots. but you already know which country and academy is that. so what else that you don't get it? everything is 'boleh' here. but it doesn't matter since everyone is equal in learning and with sufficient training, all pilots will have the same flying capabilites at the end of the day; no matter what previous qualifications they have.

and you have misconception about AUTOPILOT. if AUTOPILOT is so good, why do you think they want to put pilots in the cockpit? what happens if the AUTOPILOT fails in the air and everything goes haywire, and your plane is descending in zero visibility? do you think the ground engineer can help? and do you think a SPM leaver in the cockpit can do the job? answer is no. it is the pilot who has SUFFICIENT training and skills that will save your life. the pilot is just like everyone else and he has a family back home waiting for him. now can you see who is risking the life?

* to threadstarter, there is already a thread about piloting here (http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/342504). no need to duplicate same thread.

This post has been edited by hoongji: Feb 18 2007, 01:29 AM

married your wife as stewardess, and do a 9-5 job after landing. LOL

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Added on February 18, 2007, 1:40 amI tot every pilot must have degree in Physic,geography, and math.

This post has been edited by cafuheva: Feb 18 2007, 01:40 AM

some ppl might thing pilot is ec to b... .. wat i noticed that to b a pilot is not ec.. 1st have to past academy level of their basic requirement. then of coz reaction and equanimity. pilot need to take up d biggest responbility of all d passenger and cabin crews. and to make sure all r save during landing.... kee it up all pilots. bside some engineers got nice paid. jus depends on which com and countries u r working with.

The biggest disadvatange for airliners job including stewards and pilot is that it is not 8-5 and Monday to Friday/Satruday job and if the flight is scheduled overnight one, then need to work at worknight also. For long haul flight that more than 10 years, it is quite stressful and constantly doing it, you might bored with this job quite easily. When starting time, surely excited but for long periods, years and decades you might be thinking office job is better.
Also, you might not able to see frequently your family especially those married and got children one.

wah.. pilot so high salary geh..
any info on Airasia pilots?

extremely good salary. I think the hardest thing to become a pilot is ... the payment for the training.. Unless i come from a very rich family.. Damn..then have to train for many many years..i heard like need 10+ years to become captain.

Not so good for a family person... sure you miss the moment your first child taking his / her first steps, first words, etc... sorry, i won't change that with high salary. Money is not everything although you need money to do something )

Ya,It affects your family life big time and pilot has one of the highest divorce rate.

right, I wonder where does a doctor rank on your list of "hardest to be professions"

I just want to know how much they pay for cadet pilot?
SIA? MAS? AIR ASIA?

anyone know?

i strongly second what you say dude..the reason why pilots are so highly paid is because this is a very specialized profession and the level of responsibility the pilot has..i think there is already enough said about the level of responsibility the pilot has on the lives of everyone on board..'pilot is not hard'? just need to push the autopilot button after take off?well why didn't you mention about the stress on getting your aircraft on time,runway and wind conditions for take off,different take off technique on take off roll and rotation in the event of a crosswind condition,weather on departure,long and complicated ATC clearences,terrain awareness on take off,flight in busy TMA...then i think you will have a second opinion on this..autopilot is to take care of the 'grunt' work needed to hand-fly the aircraft..and in the business of airline flying,that is only a small part of what we do overall..

well,ok SPM CAN get you into the academy..but i can assure you that the ground exams and flight tests that you have to endure in the academy is no easy feat..even if flying academies require a degree first before u join the school,what difference does it make? if you don't meet up to the required standards,you still won't make the cut..and anyway,do you really think you need 'high iq' to get a degree?

I wonder how much AirAsia pay their pilots?

YES i second to that . In other words shit happens and different kind of shit happens everytime u Go fly.

now u know what pilots get after all that pocket-busting training and backup the autopilot system drive the aircraft around (yeah, they deserve that money )

any one could give a gross pay for those spanner wanking grease monkeys in the maintenance? jr tech, tech, sr tech, engineers and all?

can i ask a off topic noob question?

what about airforce pilot un malaysia?anyone knows about it?

There are basically two types of airforce personnels - pilots and ground crews. Basically for the pilots their trainings are of course more stringent but they also need a certain qualification/credits from their studies to make it. Most people make it to the airforce by just being a ground crew or maybe an airborne trooper. The Royal Malaysian Air Force elites are known as PASKAU (Pasukan Khas Udara), something like the SEALs in the US.

Salary in the military are different as they pay according to ranks, no matter whether you are a ground crew or a pilot. They of course do not have flying allowances like the commercial pilots

Not very sure and do not know whether the above is accurate or not since I was from ROTU Navy and I hear bits and pieces for Army and Air Force stories... Anyone from the Air Force here?

Very sad for me.
i am rabun, so can kiss any of these dream jobs goodbye.

even to join the navy also cannot

i am short

I've been shortlisted for an interview with SIA next 2 weeks. Its a cadet pilot position.

Any advice?

is it shortlisted or just a walk-in interview?

i also got the email from SIA 2days ago too and my interview will be at penang traders hotel on 28 june 2008

but I have to do the visual acuity eye-test....

This post has been edited by gstoh: Jun 16 2008, 12:07 AM

this is crazy

MAS co-pilot starting salary RM8000 will reach RM20k with experience, when u get promoted to become a captain, your starting pay will be around RM20k and will move up all the way to RM40k when you fly bigger aircrafts..... my fren just got promoted to become a captain for 737... heard he's getting about 20-22k..... and he's only 30yrs old......

This post has been edited by lorenzo1234: Sep 12 2008, 07:34 PM

can u tell me about the duration between being a 2nd officer to the 1st officer of narrow body, from 1st officer of narrow body to wide body.. and so on?

WOW

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Added on September 16, 2008, 2:06 amAnyone know smth bout air stewardess for SIA/Air ASia/MAS benefits?? seems like off topic =X

This post has been edited by nocturn3: Sep 16 2008, 02:06 AM

high pay.. but the pilot licen not easy to get la..

Nice , hope is no wrong I ambition as a pilot.

pilots well paid or seafarers?

Pilot Salary > Seafarers

Pilot working environment >>> Seafarers

Pilot Co-workers >>>>>> Seafarers Co-workers

Pilot Risk < Seafarers risk

Pilot Requirement >>> Seafarers Requirement

I agree with avocado...

Its a dream Job...Short course(approximately 2 years + if everything goes according to plan)High salary,sports car, great respect and social status, travel around da world, all the attention from stewardess/models...

Not many jobs have this kind of privilege..

5 years back...my fren did LASIK just to pass the eye test for cadet pilot exam...today he's first officer with income 10k...if i know i should follow him back days...

Many experience Mas pilots will jump ship to other airlines company to earn USD

hi, anyone know the payscale for transmile pilot?? im thinkning of joining transmile

Anyone has latest update ? Heard pay rise coming.

wow, impressive job with high salary.

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