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post Dec 8 2016, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Dec 8 2016, 08:41 AM)
i know i asked this before...........

while those who invested outside heavily can pat theirselves on the back and be smug.....think of the rest who have not.

HOW much do you hedge your net worth in foreign assets  IF you are NOT MIGRATING?
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AVFAN and me had discussed before. I was ~20% 2 years ago. Now, not much improvement I think around ~30% only. Mainly because I have illiquid assets in ongoing business.

Not as much as I wish to. But I plan to achieve at least 50%-80% if possible. Leave some in malaysia as I think this is still the best country to live in
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post Dec 8 2016, 09:13 AM

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Seeing the rate over this few days, especially after the BNM announcement last Friday, I have a feeling that 4.4x is the support level for RM. When calm returns, RM might appreciate back to 4.0x

This has happened before last year. Panic selling makes RM went to ~4.5x. Then in the next few months, it appreciated back below 4.00
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post Dec 21 2016, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 21 2016, 08:28 PM)
They are clueless leh...
Know how to push / sell their products only doh.gif
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They have been very aggressive lately. Maybe because their business is affected as the customers shift their money overseas. Leaving very little behind in malaysia for them to manage biggrin.gif
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post Dec 22 2016, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Dec 21 2016, 11:52 PM)

Of course. If given a choice, who would want to leave their money in RM now. But then again, I would say many are saving their money for rainy days ahead or are so heavily in debt there is not enough to let them roll.
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Very true ! That's why those who posted in this thread and FD/ASx threads are the fortunate ones. Their worries are how to preserve/grow their wealth. While many are still struggling to service their house/car/CC loans. RM depreciation is not their immediate worries and out of their control
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post Dec 26 2016, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(Lcclcc @ Dec 26 2016, 04:32 PM)
I wonder if it's a good move,
to increase leverage(borrow more loan) to invest in property market.

My point is,

Since the ringgit is weak, so in very soon there will be increase in labour(bangla, indon, etc), steel bar prices as well as various construction materials.

There is a good chance for us to get a good property at a discounted price.

If this is a move like "SHORT" ringgit and give us the effect of hedging on currency?
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Your logic and mindset very keng !
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post Jan 17 2017, 07:06 AM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 16 2017, 10:35 PM)
Can nego but they dont layan. Try yourself and see.
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Can. Bigger amount they can give better rates
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post Mar 9 2017, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 9 2017, 09:50 AM)
$ index rising as mar 15 nears, 102.17.

and crude lost 5% last night.

yet RM still at 4.45x, 3.14x /SGD, 3.35x/AUD.
not a bad time to buy $ or SGD, today!
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Ya, SGD and AUD retreated a little. Could have some more room before 15/3 I reckon...
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post Mar 14 2017, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 14 2017, 10:18 AM)
i really still can't see how the RM can strengthen.

except raising GST which bijan is very proud of.
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+1

RM depreciation is a matter of loss in confidence in the currency. Part of it was caused by oil price slump, but another part during the RM depreciation from 3.0 to 4.5 was because of one and DB.

Without that saga, our GST could have helped our RM remained at 3.5 cry.gif

Yes, without the confidence in the country's management, RM can never recover. And higher and higher coupon is needed to attract MGS investment. That means more and more money are needed to service the interest payments and cause RM to spiral downward in the future.

At this point, RM is hopeless. A lot of hard work and changes are needed to gain the confidence back. Don't think that is going to happen
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post Mar 17 2017, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Aurora Boreali @ Mar 17 2017, 01:27 PM)
Hi peeps, I asked this in the FSM thread but wonder if you guys here have a different view point.

I recently came back to Malaysia after close to 2 years of earning foreign income and brought back with me some foreign currency (from the former land of convicts) which is sitting in my FCA now...

With the current weakening RM, should I convert it out to RM and then invest in funds or should I just keep it in the FCA without earning any interests to hedge against the historically downward trend of RM?

Dilemma. Sifu please advise  icon_question.gif
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Your money is a waste not working for you.

AUD FD pays peanuts here. Not worth keeping AUD.

Sadly the trading platform here has no access to Australian stock exchange. But you can convert to SGD and invest in Singapore stock xchange.

So, open a trading account platform + SGD FCA. Then buy shares in SGX. Dividend yield from 3-10%

As for which stock to buy, head to stock exchange forum to have a look

If your amount is big, then may consider open stock trading account in Singapore
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post Mar 17 2017, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 17 2017, 06:25 PM)
good that u realize!

the veterans and sifus here are very quick to say do this, buy that. laugh.gif

protecting currency value and investing are two different things, very diff risks and rewards.

take your time to understand both.
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Lets give him some pressure to change his risk appetite biggrin.gif

If the inflation rate in Malaysia is 3%, in five years, his RM value will lose by 15.9%

In another words, if he keeps A$ under the pillow doing nothing for 5 years, the A$1 - RM3.41 today has to appreciate to RM3.95 just to beat inflation. If A$ does not appreciate to 3.95, his inflation-adjusted wealth will shrink.

That is just the official inflation rate. We all knew it is way higher than that. Let's say it is 6%. The Aussie dollar has to appreciate to 4.56 just to beat inflation and breakeven.

So, By making the decision to come back to Malaysia, he has to sweat it out to fight inflation as well as currency depreciation just to preserve his wealth (let alone growing it). Risk averse person has no choice but to be more aggressive sweat.gif

The solution to this dilemma is to invest in foreign currency investment. Then we take away the "RM depreciation" from the equation and fight only inflation

That's what many of us here including you and me are doing... biggrin.gif

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post Mar 24 2017, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 24 2017, 08:05 PM)
I've been talking abt all these forex controls since back in November last year, if you referred back to my posts. Then I was criticized against for saying things that are not happening, or were not happening yet,.. and there were words like things are still fine today, unlike back in 2007/8,....

So,... we have to waves rushing in now,...

Let's see starting from coming Monday,... how are the banks going to request for documents from ALL incoming TT's,.........
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Bro, to be fair to BNM, this is not a new rule on forex control. It is just that previously the banks did not implement it strictly.

I still remember many years ago (like 7-8 years ago) my fund from overseas was withheld by the bank asking me for documents. I eventually provided the documents and solve everything. It took a few days. After that, I told off the bank saying if next time you still hold my fund from overseas, then I won't use you any more. Since then, no more asking of documents. I think is bank giving convenience to their customer, and did not follow BNM rules. Not that it is not required by BNM. But the bank is trying to make our life easy.

It seems that BNM now has asked the bank to follow the instruction again. So the bank has no choice but to follow. The purpose I can think of from the bank point of view is to prevent dirty money from leaking into the banking system. So they are just doing their compliance job. Since the rule is there years ago.

Just a few months ago, when TT money out of malaysia, the bank is so paranoid that they requested every single documents they can get from you. But now everything is back to normal. Because banks have clarified with BNM that nothing has changed. So my recent transfers were all very smooth. Of course, you must help the bank by providing the necessary supporting documents and follow all the rules. Then everything no problem...

For MBB to request documents for in-coming TT, it is just a matter of getting use to the procedure...


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post Mar 29 2017, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 29 2017, 08:45 AM)
Yeah,... I've developed the same thinking too.

...with the RM in our hands,... better not wait lar,.. if one has set his mind to do something with the foreign currency,... just go and chg,... don't wait and wait anymore,... the target will run further and further away as each day goes by,.. just like some ctrs in the SGX,...
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Bro, how's your S$100 transfer back to RM using MBB ?
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post Mar 29 2017, 11:19 PM

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I also told ramjade many times....investment is not based on investment cost, but on investment return.

3.14 vs 3.17 is less than 1%. Sreit 1 quarter dividend is already more than that....

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post Mar 30 2017, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 29 2017, 11:21 PM)
We shall see. With GE coming, RM still got chance. After GE, then..
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I know you are influenced by your parents's investment philosophy. You are brought up by them being a frugal person trying to save whenever you can. But investment is not about cost. It is about risk and return.

Let's talk numbers. Numbers don't lie.

1 year ago on 29/3, S$1=2.9192. Yesterday 29/3, S$1=3.1681. That is 8.53% increase

I am sure you know you can buy Sreit with 8.53% yield.

Let's say S$ really drop back to 2.9192 1 year later. But if you have bought a Sreit with 8.53% yield now, You are still breaking even.

Now....tell me which is more certain ?

1. Sreit pays you 8.53%
2. RM appreciates to 2.9192

Discuss the numbers with your parents...


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post Apr 4 2017, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(Panda12 @ Mar 31 2017, 04:35 PM)
What has our currency become into? sad.gif
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Let's size up our currency depreciation against other developing countries. Let's compare respectable countries like BRICS as example :

5 year change in % against USD :

Brazil -70%
Russia -90%
India -25%
China -9%
South Africa -74%

Malaysia -45%

Malaysia cannot escape too. 3 out of 5 BRICS countries are worse. Don't forget BRICS were riding high and full of hope before USD surged 2-3 years ago.

What has our currency become into ? Bad. Just like many other developing countries. It will take a long time to gain back investors' confidence before they start appreciate again
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post Apr 4 2017, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 4 2017, 09:33 AM)
of the 5, 3 of mean little since they do not have much trade with msia.

only china and india are impt.

msia top trading partners are, according to wiki:

Singapore 13.6%
China 12.6%
Japan 11.8%
United States 8.7%
Thailand 5.4%
Hong Kong 4.3%
India 4.2%
Australia 4.1% (2012 est.)

whether 5 years or 3 years or 1 year, RM lost big time to ALL of them.
latest..

.. south african rand becoming JUNK.
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/03/rand-tumble...ca-to-junk.html

.. SGD about to hit new high against RM.
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Yes. Good for exporter, bad for consumer in malaysia

Moral of the story - for wage earner, try to earn in forex. For investor, diversify our investment. Hold various currencies to spread out the risk. Hold shares with export income. Invest in bourses across the global markets. Hold funds heavy on foreign countries. Tailor a portfolio with desired equity-bond combination. The only thing I haven't done is put some portion into gold related SPDR fund

For the 3 countries which their currencies depreciate more than RM, I bet they would rather have RM as their currency. And we are angry with our government for mismanaging, guess how we will feel if Jacob Zuma is our prime minister biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 4 2017, 10:55 AM)
Please post at RWI section for anything related to politic.

Just to avoid finance section topic deviated too much into political issue.

Ty.
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RM depreciation is caused by political issues.

If it is pure economic issue, RM wouldn't have reached such a state. If without the political issues, I don't think we should worry about RM. RM will be a very strong currency with our vast resources. Even stronger than SGD

So without referring to political issue, this thread is irrelevant. It is like opening a thread on marriage without referring to sex life biggrin.gif

I guess it is the mindset of most Malaysian who is afraid to stir a hornet's nest, which encourage the current political culture to foster


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QUOTE(Hansel @ Apr 4 2017, 12:18 PM)
Bro,... when you posted the above, you have just opened the door for our leaders to compare with those worse countries and THEN CLAIM MALAYSIA IS STILL THE BEST !

Then these leaders will say we are doing very well already, so, don't worry.  sad.gif

They are going to compare with the worst forever,....
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Let's see if such arguments surface in the near future or not biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 4 2017, 02:36 PM)
As said, this is financial section, it is best to leave out political issues, as topic might be easily deviated when discussing too much on political front, and potential all kind of unpleasant bashing posts popping up instead of talking about financial issue.

One can open up topic in RWI if wish to discuss deeper into those area.

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An analogy. If a marriage is affected because of the couple's sex life, will you ask the discussion in a marriage forum to stop talking about sex life and direct the discussion to the sex forum ? You are passing the bug if you do

They are inter-related. So is the country's financial and political issues. If we don't have political issues, this thread wouldn't last into v5...

I always laugh at those singkies for "kiasu", "kiasi", "kiabo" and "kia chenghu". Looks like I can't tease them anymore biggrin.gif
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post Apr 18 2017, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Apr 18 2017, 06:09 AM)
Morn Simon,...

It's just speculation from the way he wrote,... his writing style is full of bitterness and anger... sure, everyone has such moments in life, but shouldn't be like 100% of the time, right ?
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Yea....he is extreme. Too rigid. And hold too tight to his principle.

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