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 ASX COUNTERS !, Everything related to the Aus Sec Exc !

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prophetjul
post Apr 27 2017, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Apr 26 2017, 07:29 PM)
3.25 now. Can reach 3.00 ?
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post May 4 2017, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ May 4 2017, 06:55 AM)
3.20 now. Going to cross the line

Cross your hair if possible  biggrin.gif
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post May 4 2017, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ May 4 2017, 08:23 PM)
can reach 3.00 ??
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you never know!
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post May 19 2017, 10:26 AM

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The bank stocks are coming down.
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post May 19 2017, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ May 19 2017, 10:35 AM)
i do not have any ASX counters yet. Should start with BOQ?
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i can see BOQ building in Perth CBD now. biggrin.gif

It is not a bad stock. still do not like the tax on divs.
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post May 19 2017, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ May 19 2017, 10:40 AM)
To be safe and to start getting a feel,... I would have started with MYS last year,...  smile.gif

Intsead,... I started with Telstra,...

Starting with a safe and 'winning' ctr gives a lot of spirit in he investing mind,....
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True!
I started with CUP!
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post May 19 2017, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ May 19 2017, 10:53 AM)
rclxms.gif.... True,... CUP was mine to start with too,... I believed I was the one to intro CUP into this forum,...  cry.gif And to many of my friends too who wanted to start with the ASX last year !!!

Today,... CUP turned out like this,....  cry.gif  cry.gif

Sorry to all,......................
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no issue, mate. Just try to enjoy the divs. hopefully damage is not too much
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post May 26 2017, 09:34 AM

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Aussie banks have retreated a fair bit now..........
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post May 27 2017, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ May 27 2017, 02:36 PM)
3.17xx today

3.15 next....then 3.10

Momentum towards <3.00
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post May 30 2017, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ May 30 2017, 11:51 AM)
Another investment tactic, from the perspective of an Aussie investor :-

Hi mate, forgive me I've sort of been talking out loud here without directly addressing you or your questions. I didn't mean to be rude - everyone tends to have their own plans, strategies etc. etc. and often people don't want direct advice so I tend to steer away from offering it.

My plan & strategies are based on 26 years in the market, I started early (one of my first buys way the initial TLS public offering) and over that time I've seen it all and researched/studied extensively to learn a great deal about this game. I'm still a good 25 years or so away from retirement and I'm doing OK but intending to create multiples of my current nest-egg by the time retirement arrives. I'm not sure of your outlook or time frame - my strategies might not make sense for your needs.

Some advice I would offer right now is to try and stop thinking about when the next divvy payment is due. For two reasons:

1) Thinking about the ex divvy date is only a distraction that will cloud your overall view of the best time to buy NAB. This rule applies for all ASX stocks - don't ever jump in based on a divvy payment, the price you pay for the shares is more important than the next divvy.

2) Just about every divvy paying ASX200 stock drops by EXACTLY (and often more) than the divvy on the day the stock goes ex-divvy. Why pay $1 more for NAB pre-divvy if you know you can buy her for $1 less the next day? It's a false economy.

So... Again unsure if my strategies will work for your needs but you keep your money in your bank account and just watch your favourite big ASX200 stocks that pay a nice chunky divvy. And you just keep watching until a stock that you fancy hits a 12 month low and then you buy a few - not too many, but enough to be grateful if (say) the share price kicks back up to a 12 month high. Then just keep doing that same thing as regularly as you can afford to invest and collect those dividends along the way - DRP them if you possibly can (this is crticially important).

End of strategy. Don't buy stocks when they are going up, don't look for the best performing stock. Look for that ASX200 stock that is in the toilet because that's how the magic of wealth creation happens.
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Just make sure the toilet stock does not end up in the septic tank!
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post Jun 2 2017, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jun 2 2017, 07:16 AM)
Bro, past experience for Australia is 20+ years without a recession. But recession is really threathening now. Cannot use past to predict future for this time.. So better cabut asap. Risk of consolidation is very high, in fact it is already happening. Pessimism is really high here
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Think the biggest fear factor is the property bubble, which seems to be out of control. Even a shack of a house in Sydney auctions more than $1mil!

In most economic cycles, the property asset will be last to burst. Are we there yet?
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post Jun 2 2017, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jun 2 2017, 09:18 AM)
Ya Melbourne and Sydney property market started to cool. Just beginning. Perth and Brisbane already experience downturn.

To me, property market is dependent on the job market. WA suffered from end of mining boom and many relocate back to eastern states. So the property price is down in Perth. For Sydney and Melbourne, as long as economy is growing, people have jobs, then there won't be a crash. But economy and job prospect is quite persimistic now. And policy to reduce immigrants will also affect the economy. So I think Australia will experience recession again since 20+ years.

No good for stock market.

As for Malaysia property, jobs still aplenty. So although property market is no good in terms of transaction volume, but people are still holding to it and the price is still stuck up there. Except for those over leveraged speculators, I think Malaysia property market will be flat, or at worst a slight down in price. Until Malaysia economy is down, then situation might change

Perth property got a lot of bargain now. Expected yield in 2-3 years time could be quite good. You plan to buy for investment ?
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The price dynamics of Melbourne/Sydney compared with Perth is very different IMO.
Perth is highly dependant on FIFO mining employees at the high of the mining industry. Hence, renting was easy peasy then.

Whereas Mel/Sydney is highly leveraged on Chinese investment which is essentially FDI.
Unless the Chinese economy tanks, Mel/Sydney will hold up. That really is the big question. Also, whether Beijing starts heavy clamping on the money laundering from China. Be that as it may, ALL property cycles have an end. It is a matter of time.
What the trigger is, is anybody's guess.

Just went to Perth recently. Land cost is still high. Building costs is down substantially.
In 2013 when my son first went there, a 3bedroom house rental would fetch around $420 to 450. Now it is down to $320 to 370.

Not thinking of investing at this time. My friend just recently invested in a studio in Mel CBD for his son's studies. Problem is resale. No white folk will want to live in the CBD. Neither will other ethnic PR. AND you cannot sell to non PR! How?
I will wait to see if my children settles in Aus before making any decisions on Aus property.
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post Jun 7 2017, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 6 2017, 11:42 PM)
Well,.. bro, for one, this fella DOES NOT hold bank shares. Hence, his emotional tendency would be to find all possible faults with banks.

Secondly, as equities investors, if we don't invest into bank shares at all,... what else can we risk our funds on ??
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My time to invest in banks is over. The only time I will go back is after a economic downturn like 2008/9 or crisis like TianAn Men.

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post Jun 7 2017, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 6 2017, 11:48 PM)
How about oil and gold  devil.gif Thrill of the roller coaster ride.

Banks should be a must in all portfolio. Find a good stable bank and stick with it. Eg Public Bank.
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Gold makes up 20% of my portfolio since 2002. A real stabilizer!
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post Jun 7 2017, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Jun 7 2017, 10:09 AM)
Boss

Can name me few stabilisers so that I may add into my portfolio ?
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Assets or stocks?
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post Jun 7 2017, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Jun 7 2017, 10:43 AM)
Ooo stocks first...

Like Public Bank Gold Acc, that is asset ?
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Stabilizers

For stocks, you are looking at Utility, Infrastructure Type. Sustained low dividends but long terms. POS do not change that much.
Some ETFs may also offer that exposure.

Gold- You can buy ETF to trade. No need to go into those gold accounts. Trading costs is cheaper than the bank spreads which are approx. 4%.
Gold ETF like SPDR traded on SGX

http://www.spdrgoldshares.com/singapore/


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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Jun 7 2017, 11:44 AM)
Boss,

The GLD:SP is kept for its cap appreciation purpose ? If I see for 5 yrs horizon, the price is consider low..so I should buy and keep abit as stabilizer ?
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Yeah. But must be able to just hold it.

Since 2002, it has yielded approx 10% pa cagr in ringgit terms
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post Jun 20 2017, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Jun 20 2017, 11:59 AM)
Boss

Why GLD:SP keep dimishing lately ?? Time to go in ??
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Cannot tell you when to go in. That is your own call. biggrin.gif

I look at long term and disaster hedging with gold.


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post Jun 25 2017, 04:14 PM

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Beware of the taxes on Aus banks!

http://www.therakyatpost.com/business/2017...w-surprise-tax/
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post Jun 30 2017, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jun 30 2017, 09:03 AM)
Just under 1 month ago the Aussie $ is expected to go down. Now it go up pulak  doh.gif
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Yeah......regret

Seems AUD is very closely tied to iron ore prices

Of course our glorious MYR is down aganst USD at 4.29


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