Hi there.

May I kindly suggest that, instead of generalising all topics related to religion into a single thread of 'All about religion' in the Real World Issues forum, how about creating a new forum dedicated to the discussion and debates for different topics relating to the religion. Instead of a 'Real World Issues' forum, why not have a 'Religious debates' forum where people can create different kinds of threads in order to discuss the many different kinds of issues that involve religion?

I'm sure that we are secular enough of nation to allow different types of people to have the freedom to discuss different types of religion pertaining to religion.

This post has been edited by Hoka Nobasho: Dec 2 2016, 08:07 AM

Hi everyone.

This is a duplicated post of https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4134032, and the reason I post it here as well is because I needed those who support the notion to help me post there as well, so that we can get a dedicated forum where different kinds of discussions that involve religion can be created, instead of lumping a generalised, "all about religion" thread like the one we have in the Real World Issues forum.

Shown below is my post to see if Lowyat forums will allow the creation of this new, dedicated forum about religion.

I say No as you will be the one that lit the place in fire.

Religion is not stuff to be debated, especially for those that is committed to religion.

You want to have debate, debate it in your atheist thread. Period.

please no.. i disagree..

what to expect from keyboard warriors?

No, plain old NO.
Period

In that case, why is there an 'All about religion' thread in the RWI forums? Aren't there already people debating in there?

All I'm asking is that it should not be generalised into a single thread, as there are many different issues and types of religions that can be discussed.


Not everyone is a "keyboard warrior". Some people simply have thoughts to be expressed.

This post has been edited by Hoka Nobasho: Dec 2 2016, 09:30 AM

I've responded to your post in the other thread. Thanks.

i am pretty sure u are already aware that there are seperate religion threads in serious /k.
why do u feel the need to have the same in RWI?
its still gonna be the same kind of discussions.

anyway from what i understand, most of the religion threads were previously in RWI, then were moved to serious /k.

there are of cos some overlaps here and there with serious /k, so i dont see the need for the RWI section also...then again thats for the admins to decide.

The reason why I asked is that we are not allowed to debate nor discuss religion freely in those threads in Serious /k.

For example, let's just say I wish to discuss the question whether of whether if there's any evidence for god, I know I can't do it in any of the religious threads nor the atheist threads because people from all different religions and atheists alike cannot come together and discuss it. The Christian lounge is only for Christians, and the Muslim lounge is only for Muslims, and they don't like it when people try to discuss such topics in their thread.

So instead of intruding on each of the individual religious threads, why don't we just have a separate forum where different topics in regards to religion can be discussed together, regardless of what religion or non-religion people you are?

In addition, I disagree when you say "it's gonna be the same kind of discussions". There are many different types of discussions pertaining religion, especially the ones when they involve our daily lives, morality, society and politics. So instead of generalising all of those different topics into one "all about religion" thread in RWI, why not have a separate forum where different topics can be created for discussions?

This post has been edited by Hoka Nobasho: Dec 2 2016, 09:49 AM

i think the rules needs updating, again need to bug admin for that.

and why do u feel the need to enter other threads and discuss about their god? its their belief, not urs.

and if u want to discuss about the existence of god, then a single thread should be more than enough...as in the RWI thread...but in the end it will end up in flaming and ppl are gonna get banned again.

Huh? I did not suggest intruding into other threads to discuss about their god. I was suggesting a separate forum so that all different people with different religion and non-religion can come together to have discussions about different topics that involves religion.

But what if we wish to talk about different topics? There are many different topics that involve religion, and as I have mentioned, it involves our daily lives, morality, society and politics that involves religion. One general thread cannot possibly talk about those different topics that involve religion.

And people getting banned should be their own fault for not following the rules, right? It's not really the fault of the rules nor the forum / threads in place.

This post has been edited by Hoka Nobasho: Dec 2 2016, 10:02 AM

all i need to know is aliens exist.

For that matter, please consult mod. I am not the person in charged with what to do what not to do in /k, serious /k or RWI.

From my stand point, there is nothing to be discussed among religious people or non-religious people, especially the host like to throw sharp question around freely (read: YOU).

Neither you or anyone in the discussion wanted to let go of your point of view and to embrace each other. You and everyone else is thinking that everyone else is mad/irrational/infidel/monster. What make you think that this will yield any good results?

For the sake of whatever you believe in, would you please just stop?

I'm sorry, what?

Are you saying that people should stop discussing religion altogether? And what do you mean there's "nothing to be discussed" when it involves the real lives of people every day?

In case you didn't know, discussions and debates can provoke open-mindedness and thoughts. Are you saying this is a bad thing? To get people to be open-minded?

This post has been edited by Hoka Nobasho: Dec 2 2016, 10:06 AM

Religious debates? i wont joint, i wont support but if you insist i will not stop either

it doesnt work here.
like u also dont believe in aliens...

Why? It's not like I'm opening a thread in /k right? We're talking about a separate forum where people can discuss properly instead of trying to go into people's individual religious threads.

If you ask me, this is a win-win situation, people can hang out freely amongst themselves within their own individual religion thread for their fellowship, and they can also come to this new forum where people can discuss and debate about religion freely.

I will believe in aliens if there is evidence, but I don't understand why are you suddenly replying with stuff that is irrelevant to my question though.

I just thought that since we already have a generalised thread titled "All about religion" in RWI, why don't we have a separate forum where different topics can be created instead of a single, generalised thread?

What you do is literally preaching (sorry that I couldn't find a better word to describe you a so called Atheist that work so religiously to promote an idea)

We all are humans, with sets of human nature that we nurtured if from the day we able to accumulate our own thoughts, that we use it day to day to measure the idea we received.

You need to consciously choose to listen to an idea before you can participate in a open minded discussion.

I would advice you to stick with your own gang, discuss whatever you like, and people that think they are fed-up with current ideology, or anyone with a curious mind will eventually stumble into your threads.

All of your threads, is either you yelling an offensive idea to believers, or self-high with an topic. Get a life bro.

Why do you think I did not choose to listen? Isn't the purpose of a form for discussion is exactly that? And by not having a form for discussion, isn't that the same thing as shutting our minds?


Since when was I yelling or what do you mean by "self-hugh" with "an topic"?

In addition, why did you think I do not have a life?