I would argue to get the Slim now because the difference in performance (currently) is not worth the price or waiting time.


I wholeheartedly agree, buying overseas R1 is much cheaper than buying locally in the long run.

But I think the question was why local stores don't bring in R1 games which for the regular consumer, they don't really care about this stuff. The stores here target those customers that don't care if it's R1 or R3 or R32. So it's like two different argument, initial cost I believe would be cheaper to get locally in bulk than to wait for oversea prices to drop and then bring them in. If I'm wrong about it being cheaper to bring in locally in bulk then I will admit my misunderstanding.

In the long run, the average price of R1 games are cheaper, in the context of the world. In context of Malaysia, the game stores just want to get in bulk from a local supplier as cheaply as possible. Then they leave prices higher for longer because we have many people who aren't as educated buying games online from play-asia or Amazon or even the PSN store. Would I love to have a game store here reflect outside prices, sure. But reality is they don't. So I'm saddened by it. I hate going into a store just to have in the back of my mind the current prices of all the games I want to buy, I would love to support local goods. But they make it so hard to justify buying locally.

This post has been edited by NixiN-7hieN: Jan 9 2017, 12:08 PM

Nope, no difference. Unlike past consoles (or Nintendo's), there is no region lock. So the only difference is warranty. Which in my 25 years of gaming, never had the chance to claim. Even if my console spoil it's always way past warranty period...

There is one small difference. I just remembered... the X and O could be swapped. Asia regions usually have O as confirm and Western countries have X as confirm. Small adjustment but some might feel is important as well. There's only one game out of like the thousands that have come out with an issue of X/O, it's Trine 2 on the PS3. The US region has different confirm and cancel but the menus for some reason did not swap the buttons so you could not level up. But I think for PS4 all these issues are mitigated by having the controller inputs based on the game and not on system. There's another game that I was streaming that I was complaining about weird button inputs... can't remember what now. Will remember later.

Just remembered... Dishonored 1 on the PS3 didn't change the button prompt from what was shown on screen if you played the R1 game on an SEA console.

This post has been edited by NixiN-7hieN: Jan 10 2017, 10:56 AM

There's always worse things that could happen. You could have given pre-order and the person run away with your money.

I know how you feel, I saved up for months as a student to be able to afford the pre-order and now I can't even get my hands on it. Now I have to save up for a higher amount because my preorder was void and I can't even get a PS4 Slim or something to replace it for the time being because I can't even get my money back. So in essence, spending nearly Rm4K on a Pro.

This post has been edited by NixiN-7hieN: Jan 10 2017, 02:06 PM

Rm 1K+ for pre-order, all lost due to seller run away cannot fulfill.
Rm 2k+ by the time can get stock and I am able to save up enough money for the Pro.

So value closer to 4K than 3K.

If I'm desperate enough to get a Slim PS4 while saving up then that's another 1K+.

This post has been edited by NixiN-7hieN: Jan 10 2017, 02:20 PM

Yeah, no offer. No nothing. The shop initially was called Gadget Geek. I thought it was ok cause it had a shop in Spectrum Ampang. Now the shop become a phone shop and the dealer left without a sound. Can't really advise anywhere else cause a lot of their listings got taken down. Only one left is this in Shopee. Need to make a police report, but currently moving as well so hard to find time to cari Balai Polis.

If I could guess, it's because a lot of stock went to US and Europe for Black Friday/Christmas sales. Second reason could be, they taken the market strategy for Japan for the rest of Asia as they've been hyping up the Slim and the price decrease over there instead of the Pro.

It was why I supported the Pro initially. If it meant getting rid of console generations. Like on the PC you can play most if not all the FF and in the future won't have to buy another console to play the next generation of games, just upgrade the specs. But Sony's not confident with allowing developers make use of the extra hardware without patches and by forcing arbitrary rules about enhancements makes me look towards the Xbox side. On the Xbox One I can play all my games from OG Xbox up until the One and Scorpio. But sadly I feel Sony made a number of missteps towards that future so we will have to see how Microsoft handles mid-gen upgrades.

If there ever will be a Pro patch. Move on to DLC and then done.

If by some miracle I ever get a PS4 Pro before CNY, I promise here. I will sell it off for Rm1.4k to buy this.

Yeah, true. But everything I have is black. Monitor black, speakers black, desktop black, PS3 black. phone black. Would like to have something white.

Edit: Actually, if there's a blue PS4 I would get that before a white one.

This post has been edited by NixiN-7hieN: Jan 10 2017, 09:37 PM

My question for this is, did FFXV feel like a FF game? My opinion now is that FFXIV is the most FF game because of the monsters, job classes and grand story. Will be honest that XII felt more Tactics (on GBA) mixed with MMO.

Edit: I would love a Vagrant Story remake/sequel.

This post has been edited by NixiN-7hieN: Jan 11 2017, 09:56 AM

Controversial answer. Favorite FF is FFXIII.

It's either something else, or it would be tech issues and Pro complaints. I prefer something else.

Though I do understand, that this is the easiest way for people to figure out problems by coming to the main thread. So someone can guide me off to a "random thoughts on gaming" thread would be okay.

This post has been edited by NixiN-7hieN: Jan 11 2017, 10:38 AM

I can't stand XIII-2, stopped after 2 hours.

Here's some of the latest comparisons between Pro and base PS4.

Rise of the Tomb Raider

The Last Guardian

Battlefield 1

Gravity Rush 2

Diablo III


Currently there is still no way to record footage with HDR but these 5 games don't have HDR function. Though I would recommend with all tech upgrades, don't listen to what others say. Go to a store, find a Pro and test it out yourself.

This post has been edited by NixiN-7hieN: Jan 13 2017, 05:15 PM

This?

Any laptop hard drive will work with the PS4. There's no unique or special hardware required. You might need to download the latest firmware from PlayStation since you might be having Wifi connection as well.

You might need to format to Fat32/exFat for it to read the new hard drive.

This post has been edited by NixiN-7hieN: Jan 16 2017, 11:19 PM

I see. My bad comprehension then. Dunno, I have like 10 spare hard drives cause everyone swapping to SSD/HHD and leaving the old hard drives behind so no reason to buy more. Also, not good for me to assume that you are in KL area. But I usually get my stuff at Wangsa Walk cause they seen to have stock no one wants. If worse comes to worst than you still can't find one, you can always buy those portable hard drives and strip the hard drives yourself.

If the purpose is to find a super cheap dealer of old hard drives. Can always ask in garage sales if anyone selling off second hand.

This post has been edited by NixiN-7hieN: Jan 17 2017, 09:59 AM

It depends more on the TV than the system or your settings. If the TV has input lag at 4K, then no matter if you're running upscale or native there will be lag. Though there are arguments that upscaling is a process that should cause lag. So far it is not as noticeable as a 4KTV with poor 4K support in the first place. 1080p@60Hz and 4K@60Hz for most TVs are the same in terms of input lag. But once you turn off game mode, lag goes up.


Statistics here on how TVs handle input lag. (Lower numbers are better)


Note: I'm sure there are others with more experience out there, but this is for a perceived/noticeable difference. I'm sure we can argue 5-10% difference, but unless you are doing frame perfect speedruns, Mike Tyson's Punch-Out or still playing Rock Band. Most games are designed to take into account the lag found in HDTVs. So if you want a pure, lag-free gameplay. Going back to CRTs might be the solution.

This post has been edited by NixiN-7hieN: Jan 17 2017, 10:45 AM