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Lenovo Lenovo P2 Chat V1:Snap625 AMOLED 4GB/32GB 5100mAh, Throw away powerbanks & car chargers !!!

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post Feb 10 2017, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(starship1 @ Feb 10 2017, 11:54 AM)
hohohoo...just notice the obsessed with AnTuTu benchmark guy is back in town who called himself a Tech Enthusiast and who also ,on more than a few occasion on this thread alone,  imposing his idiotic and silly will  ,that  AnTuTu reading alone ,is the Be-all and End-all  decision to buy a phone.

look Mr.Tech Enthusiast ,from your post counts ,i tend to believe you are a person with a reasonable amount of knowledge of SoC, you can have your beliefs and there is nothing wrong with that but to impose your will again and again on something that is subjective as benchmarking readings and make a silly judgement call ....hohohoo

BTW ,in case you need reminders, benchmarking readings ,however accurate or subjective ,are merely instruments and tools to be use as buying guide and not the final and only decisions..many users nowadays already knows ,difference in speed if (any) are only in milliseconds and it does not affect their everyday use .for those who hold the belief that higher benchmarking reading can improve and enhance their user experience,will accordingly to their budget ,go ahead and make their choice.there is no right or wrong .

More importantly ,there are many more features of equal significance that a potential buyer have to consider before they decides

Unless  the SoC are from years ago which are now obsolete which have big differences than yes if they wish ,they can look up to benchmarking reading comparison if they dont know what else to look to.the SD625 does have its shortcomings,but for many and for what it can do ,it is already  more than sufficient

from what i know ,A Go-Go use to be a popular dance step a while ago but is now obsolete .you are saying, all smartphone user and buyer should dance to your new tune called AnTuTu. and in your silly opinion and will ,no other tune which in this case other "features" are legitimate other than your beloved AnTuTu.

Come on ,you are better than this
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Haha, ok, I rest my case.
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post Feb 10 2017, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 10 2017, 05:37 PM)
Sincere commentary....
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In comparison to Mi5s and Note 5, P2 camera smear too much even at bright scene. Totally unusable for serious mobile photography. Mi5s almost same price as P2 but sport a SD821 which 2.5 times faster than SD625 and run cool too because using 14nm process node. P2 is totally not acceptable for photo taking.

The youtube video above is bias because he own P2 and he has no chance to buy Mi5s like us.

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post Feb 10 2017, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Feb 10 2017, 07:48 PM)
Isn't mi5s around 1700ish? Mi5 without the 's' is around 1100ish.
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My friend bought 2 mi5s 128gb at RM1480 each. There is a cheaper 64gb version which priced comparable to P2.
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post Feb 10 2017, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 10 2017, 07:40 PM)
I would get Mi5S but lack of audio features and dated IPS panel, I am not putting my investment to it. There is nothing special about Mi5s; other than price over performance ratio... I don't need that... Why Xiaomi keep on doing the same thing all over again...? I don't get it... This could be one of the reason they have lost their market share in China... No innovation and uniqueness... it's the same cycle all over again... boring....Mi MIX is pricey.... I want to buy it, but the poor screen protection is a boner killer... once dropped on the floor, cry...If they put "Shatterproof" screen into MIX, I would spend my money right away...



And MIUI "frequent" OTAs is not helping... instead of getting fixed, more issues comeout from time-to-time, especially battery drain after certain OTAs... Then, need to downgrade to previous firmware...what a waste of time... Xiaomi needs to re-think to tone down MIUI so that after OTAs, no major issues emerge... Looking at the "HIDDEN" background services, I would say big "NO-NO" to MIUI...Have to root to remove these "hidden" services... and now, to unlocked bootloader also troublesome... they purposely do that so that:
1) We bricked the phone and get a new set; if one does not properly unlock bootloader...
2) We can't remove their "hidden" services....

Luckily I know how to unlock bootloader and remove those pesky hidden services....but for others? They need a phone that is out-of-the-box workable and reliable, even after many-many OTAs....Having said that, I'm eagerly waiting for Xiaomi's next flagship(s) and evaluate the innovation and uniqueness they offer....

Would rather have something unique in its class.... ZTE Axon 7 Mini would have captured my interest but the SoC and longevity is a real boner killer....

P2 has the right recipe with screen, audio, longevity and sleekness; plus the "Theatermax" feature is something that no other vendors can offer.....This is the innovation and uniqueness that I want to see...Hence, I'm willing to pay...  (but seriously P2 is really affordable looking at Ringgit history...). P2 camera is adequate for fancy usage... For serious photography and "videography", Note5 is always in stand-by mode...

P2 is suitable for secondary phone... an "Always be there phone".... primary should be other flagships...And whenever my Note5 is dying due to insufficient energy, P2 is the life-saver with its reverse charging feature... can Mi5s do that to safe my Note5....? Oh yeah... powerbanks is there...but then, we already carry three items in the inventory....Powerbank vs. micro USB adapter for reverse charging... which is lighter? Plus, the stock microUSB adapter can be used for HDD, OTG etc... Just bring one small apparatus, can do all other stuffs... Can powerbank keep my 4K videos taken by Note5? P2 surely can by using the micro-USB adapter to transfer 4K Videos from my limited space Note5. Plus, the Ultimate Power Saver slider in P2 is "hidden gem" in-case of emergency needs...

Finally, money can buy SoC, but can't buy experience....Got money, can buy iPhone X/Decade later... got the best SoC in there... but experience? Money can't buy...P2 has the experience that is beyond my expectations which money can't buy....The experience I'm mentioning now is innovation and uniqueness... not price over performance ratio.... MI5s won my "Best Price-Over-Performance" award... but I don't need it....
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post Feb 10 2017, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Feb 10 2017, 09:28 PM)
Advise him to sell it on lyn, sure can profit one (y)
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He happily using it. He appreciates the camera and the speed. One is for his brother. Both are happy user. Bought from Lazada Terabyte. Came in sealed box.

Nowadays no one buy stuff in LYN already lo.
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post Feb 11 2017, 06:55 AM

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QUOTE(miloy2k @ Feb 11 2017, 03:38 AM)
Mi5?  Sadly quite a no of my fren have overheat issue when using their phone camera or something..  Some return the phone,  while some migrated to one plus 3 or 3t..
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No, mi5s. It's better because it change to metal case. So heat sink better. Also the body a tiny bit bigger to accommodate bigger camera. Thus, camera also better.
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post Feb 15 2017, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 15 2017, 02:55 PM)
It's normal to me. With 2½ days on standby, getting close to 4 hours SoT (balance 48%) dedicated to gaming and camera usage is extra ordinary achievement already.
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Means SOT is 8 hours.
For Redmi Note 3 is around 6~7 hours because of 4050mAH battery.
Bear in mind that Redmi Note 3 is faster than SD625 and thus in the same hour, Redmi Note 3 accomplish more stuff compared to P2.

Which means SD625 probably good for Standby but not really good for SOT.

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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Feb 15 2017, 03:38 PM)
Erm rdn3 pro if on stand by for 2 and half days with 4 hours SOT, already needs a recharge. P2 with 625 on the other hand still got half of its battery left.

Can we for once GET OVER with 650 vs 625 SOC? How many times with proof in earlier msges Azhar and many others have posted their personal experience and various videos on pros n cons of 625 vs 650. For mid to heavy users who game lightly, thr isn't a huge difference between 625 and 650. Off course 650 is faster! in some cases you can feel it too but yeah SOME cases only. For me I never felt the difference, im talking about REAL usage here (Ahem some people Ahem like antutu a lot)

Both have thr pros n cons. Imo rdn3 is best for people who game hardcore and doesn't mind charging ever other day or one day after.

I have used BOTH phones and I use them BOTH heavily MINUS the gaming and p2 for me is more efficient and cooler. PERIOD.
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Yeah, that's why I said SD625 great for standby. SOT is not really that great. So SD625 is really great for light user.

QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 15 2017, 03:45 PM)
Only Oukitel K10000 can kick P2 out of no. 1 spot in the ranking....

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Maybe can buy if K10000 come out with updated spec like SD625.
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 24 2017, 09:21 PM)
Something's not right with his Redmi Note 3 Pro...P2 cannot win against RN3P...



Or it's valid due to multi-core performance of P2 is greater than RN3P...?
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As you can see in the vix, RN3P is leading for awhile but P2 overtake in the end...
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Hahaha, dont kid yourself. We all know P2 very slow compare to RN3P. You keep searching for those Video to comfort yourself also no point. In the end, you have a slower device but is compensated with useless big battery. The reason is RN3P still last 1 day.
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post Feb 25 2017, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 25 2017, 08:37 AM)
MIUI's nasty "hidden" services running in the background is the culprit...
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You can off them.
QUOTE(game4life @ Feb 25 2017, 09:19 AM)
Ive used both rn3 and p2. Loading time p2 may be faster but there is a time where p2 is sluggish. Eg. when you scroll activity log in clash royale it is not smooth.

Im planning to sell my p2. Anybody from kuching interested? biggrin.gif
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60k vs 78k AnTuTu hehe

QUOTE(miloy2k @ Feb 25 2017, 09:20 AM)
Rn3pro? Nope x sampai 1 day,  max sot for my wife heavy usage 5 to 6 hours shj,  if mi max then yeah,  one or more then 1 days. Sot minimum 9 hours on wards

Imo rn3pro rom not so optimize vs mi max is the main reason.
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Have to optimize with some setting then you are good to go.
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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Feb 25 2017, 09:49 PM)
Antutu is for kids.
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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Feb 26 2017, 12:58 AM)
i agree antutu is not conclusive to gauge an overall performance of a smartphone flagship or not, just like a car hp, horsepower alone doesnt tell the whole picture there r other factors as well, weight, engine, aerodynamics, etc. but if putting a 300 hp car (SND 835) with a 150hp (SND 620), obviously hp alone is conclusive unless the 300hp car manufacturer has completely no idea what it is doing. the high SND 835, cant be possible the ram n other UI r not streamline to send high antutu reading for its 835 SND. its a no brainer.

imho antutu just give a surface yet rather relevant performance of a smartphone though not overall cuz there r other elements like UI, OS, Ram but it is rather suggestive in my opinion because the UI, os ram efficiency do (minimally) contribute to the antutu reading (thus, narrow) result thats why i believe antutu is a reflective of the smartphone performance but not conclusive because it doesnt translate to UX (user experience) suggestive in the sense that, pound for pound, it is sufficient for a modest match (relatively reliable result)....say, same spec hp, then antutu is a relevant derivative of the sum of the respective phone because the antutu reading is part outcome of the ui, os, ram etc.

so to me, i would read antutu reading as a relevant but not conclusive factor albeit proc segment alone is more

relevant/distinctive to antutu i.e Antutu reading surely higher for (1) SND 820 to 625 but doesnt mean 625 UX is worse off than a 820 phone such as leeco that one as long as the 625 all factors r in harmony like iphone their os just helped their low ram significantly, it may not have high antutu if ever applicable. but antutu (2) 625 4G will higher than 625 2G Ram cuz the ram helped. n usually a 835 will higher antutu than 620 hp at same ram or even 620 higher ram than the 835 cuz 835 is just too much to pull the gap for 620 so it is EXPECTED (suggestive, not conclusive) the 835 to be better overall performance than 620 just like a (3) 300hp car> 250hp but putting the 300hp car to a 100hp car will be conclusive like SND 835 vs 620 hp...so antutu will be suggestive or conclusive depending on the which phone u r putting against refer back to eg. 1 ,2,3...
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It is conclusive. SD650 is really faster.

QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Feb 26 2017, 04:09 AM)
Fully agreed plus adding on the fact that manufacturers mess with antutu to get higher speed rests. In your explanation you can't expect the higher hp car with full rpm to hold on n keep up that speed ALL the time. The engine will seize aka cpu will get so hot that it will eventually throttle. Smartphones have better cooling now but it is no where close to what antutu does to phones to get that higher score. Problem is some manufacturers are doing n some aren't. But dont get me wrong, im not saying sd625 is the best. But looking at all aspects it puts some high end soc's on shame for now.

I'd say again antutu is for kids, infact people who base their conclusions on antutu, i find them cute.
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Nowadays no one mess with Antutu. SD650 really faster. SD625 is just A53 on steroid. Not efficient one. Very bad single core performance.
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 26 2017, 11:08 AM)


Snap625 is getting lots of manufacturers attention in order to gain massive profit.


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QUOTE(amdx @ Feb 27 2017, 03:37 PM)
midrange processor 625.. but like P2 - coupled by other additional features, cameras, rams, biometric scanner, 5k battery, reasonable price tag... this is "better" than flagship d...
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Midrange is 650 and above.

625 is Low Mid Range. It consist purely of inefficient A53 core. A72 is for mid tier and above.
Kyro is for flagship.
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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Feb 27 2017, 06:04 PM)
Agreed! for me better than SD 650 as SD650 in real time usage only gives slight performance improve but comparatively drains a lot of battery. SD 625 is the bomb!
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Not only A72 give huge leap over A53 core, Adreno 510 also trounce Adreno 506 by 50gflops.

No fight at all between SD650 and SD625.
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post Feb 27 2017, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Feb 27 2017, 07:56 PM)
Yeah yeah fot mr antutu only for you tongue.gif.
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post Feb 28 2017, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(amdx @ Feb 28 2017, 09:30 AM)
so sensitive on the qualcomm soc range segmentation meh...
to me, perhaps to qualcomm as well, 600 series are aim at mid-range. low and entry should be 400 and 200 series soc.

but then, for rm1k pricing Lenovo P2, apa mau lagi? the new Nokia 6 using SD430 leh... selling RM1599-1899 respectively :/

i'm using mate 9 as primary phone, and i still think P2 is super reasonably priced.. looking at the C/P
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Pricing is not too bad la. But if use SD650 would be better. I'm sure 5000mAH also can last very long for SD650.

Nokie SD430 is ridiculously priced. Oppo r9s is ridiculously priced. Even Moto Z Play also ridiculously priced. So it makes ZF3 and P2 more palatable.
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QUOTE(miloy2k @ Feb 28 2017, 10:39 AM)
It's depending on rom+bloatware+usage, take my A9 Pro for example, the "battery" performance are lesser then Lenovo P2, not only due 625 but due to P2 rom is lightweight vs touchwiz, miui (Rn3pro case) smile.gif
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Means if P2 using SD650, P2 will fly because EMUI is better.

Maybe P2s/P2 Pro will have SD650. Haha
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QUOTE(miloy2k @ Feb 28 2017, 02:27 PM)
bukan EMUI is huawei rom?, to be fair if "aosp rom level" install at mi max or rn3pro or a9 pro, imo they will tapau or better dr p2 smile.gif
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Ya sorry. What ROM that Lenovo using. Haha.
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QUOTE(xperiaDROID @ Feb 28 2017, 02:46 PM)
Vibe UI Pure

That's a mouthful.
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Thanks

QUOTE(xperiaDROID @ Feb 28 2017, 02:49 PM)
My guess for the local price of Nokia 6 would be RM 1199. Seriously, they should know what they're doing, a SD 430 phone shouldn't be priced more than that.
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Nokia brand. LOL

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