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dares
post Nov 22 2016, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(Duperaider @ Nov 22 2016, 02:20 PM)
I own a fofi 2011 model, it's like this, if there is no problem there will be no problem untill the car is completely dead.

A few question to ask the previous owner,
a. Did he receive an FOC extended warranty?, if yes, ask for the letter from SDAC as a proof
b. HOw often he drive outstation (or is it a second car?), Ford is a strange car, the more it is driven, the less problem it is, especially on the transmission, my car i notice that if I tekan all the time, it has no problem, but if I drive like my grand ma, all sorts of problem comes out (contrary to Jap cars)
c. He use ron 97 or ron 95?, if during the first 2 years it is driven with ron 97, the engine will be very smooth, if not, completely pointless (this engine is a high compression engine that can truly benefit from high ron, low ron can mess up this engine)

Your concern,
b. Parts problem, quite unlikely, because the most possible damage will on the transmission (they call it PCM and TCM), if item "a" above is available, then no issues, if not, when it fails, it will cost 10k + to fix
c. Other parts, brake, spark plug, timing belt and etc (the common ones) are very normal, just like any other car
d. Expensive?, you can ask an infamous ford workshop aka "Bug" (you can google him out)
Common headache with this car
a. Gearbox and transmission (but hey, even VW high end model also have same complain on their DSG)
b. Engine vibration during jam (that's the characteristic - changing from gear 2 to 3 is a bit clumbsy, but if that happens during slope climb, then that is the real damage)

If you need to know more about ford, you can PM me, at least I own 3 fords, 1 nissan, 1 toyota, and I do not speak from hearsay, good luck!
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TCM 4k-5k only IINM. Some has extended 10 year warranty for the TCM.

PCM is Ford's name for it's ECU.

Yes I can attest to the car needed to be driven hard. Driving slowly in traffic can wear it down rather quickly. The transmission is not built for slow driving under hot weather.

This post has been edited by dares: Nov 22 2016, 07:51 PM
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post Nov 22 2016, 08:10 PM

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Guys thanks for the information, the supports given are much appreciated. After long consideration, i give up on the decision to get a 2nd hand ford fiesta.
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post Nov 23 2016, 05:50 AM

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Nov 22 2016, 07:11 PM)
Just avoid Ford Fiesta unless you are a road warrior with a high tolerance for pain and a lot of time to take to the workshop. It's not as if there are no other cars for your money and you need to buy a possibly problematic car and hope for the best.
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I agrees with the first half of your statement and reject the rest. laugh.gif
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post Nov 23 2016, 06:20 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 22 2016, 07:50 PM)
TCM 4k-5k only IINM. Some has extended 10 year warranty for the TCM.

PCM is Ford's name for it's ECU.

Yes I can attest to the car needed to be driven hard. Driving slowly in traffic can wear it down rather quickly. The transmission is not built for slow driving under hot weather.
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TCM 4 - 5k?, interesting, quotation from where? drool.gif
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post Nov 23 2016, 06:24 AM

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Nov 22 2016, 07:11 PM)
Just avoid Ford Fiesta unless you are a road warrior with a high tolerance for pain and a lot of time to take to the workshop. It's not as if there are no other cars for your money and you need to buy a possibly problematic car and hope for the best.
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Hmm,.... not a road warrior, but 5 years no problem, only regular service, how did you maintain or driving style of your fofi?, just sharing for note changing
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post Nov 23 2016, 06:25 AM

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QUOTE(PhoEniX_DEU @ Nov 22 2016, 08:10 PM)
Guys thanks for the information, the supports given are much appreciated. After long consideration, i give up on the decision to get a 2nd hand ford fiesta.
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OK - what is your final decision?, we all are very kepoh one LOL
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post Nov 23 2016, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(Duperaider @ Nov 23 2016, 06:24 AM)
Hmm,.... not a road warrior, but 5 years no problem, only regular service, how did you maintain or driving style of your fofi?, just sharing for note changing
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he don't own any fiesta AFAICR
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post Nov 23 2016, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Nov 23 2016, 08:49 AM)
he don't own any fiesta AFAICR
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Aiya biasa la, even so, for the few owners that have bad experience, sure make more noise than the thousands that is satisfied,.... human nature ma
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post Nov 23 2016, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Nov 23 2016, 08:49 AM)
he don't own any fiesta AFAICR
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In the last 11 years of owning a Jap car I've never had to put the car overnight in a workshop for even one night. Can you say that of your Fiesta?

QUOTE(Duperaider @ Nov 23 2016, 06:24 AM)
Hmm,.... not a road warrior, but 5 years no problem, only regular service, how did you maintain or driving style of your fofi?, just sharing for note changing
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You are one of the very lucky ones. The average Fiesta owner will need to change their DCT within the first 3 years, sometimes more than once.


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post Nov 23 2016, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Duperaider @ Nov 23 2016, 06:20 AM)
TCM 4 - 5k?, interesting, quotation from where? drool.gif
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That's the figure that has been floating around from where I don't remember, it was slightly cheaper than a clutchpack (also 4-5k) IINM. You can ask SDAC if you have the chance.

QUOTE(Duperaider @ Nov 23 2016, 09:09 AM)
Aiya biasa la, even so, for the few owners that have bad experience, sure make more noise than the thousands that is satisfied,.... human nature ma
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In FnF, non-owners make more noise than owners that has bad experience.
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post Nov 23 2016, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Nov 23 2016, 09:42 AM)
In the last 11 years of owning a Jap car I've never had to put the car overnight in a workshop for even one night. Can you say that of your Fiesta?
You are one of the very lucky ones. The average Fiesta owner will need to change their DCT within the first 3 years, sometimes more than once.
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In the last 5 year of owning my fiesta, I've never had to put the car overnight in a workshop for even one night.

Saying something loudly means something, I presume?
Or it boil down to pure luck, then what's the difference ?


And again, get your terminology right before you blare like no tomorrow.

I know you're not a savvy guy, but please, please please try.
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post Nov 23 2016, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Nov 23 2016, 09:42 AM)
In the last 11 years of owning a Jap car I've never had to put the car overnight in a workshop for even one night. Can you say that of your Fiesta?
You are one of the very lucky ones. The average Fiesta owner will need to change their DCT within the first 3 years, sometimes more than once.
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Hmm,..... maybe you can enlighten me on how many fofi got sent back on DCT?, I am also very curious to learn more, since you say average, care to share the numbers?
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post Nov 23 2016, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 23 2016, 10:17 AM)
That's the figure that has been floating around from where I don't remember, it was slightly cheaper than a clutchpack (also 4-5k) IINM. You can ask SDAC if you have the chance.
In FnF, non-owners make more noise than owners that has bad experience.
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LOL and facts of life, and they will say "in average" and also dunno where they got those info, like SDAC or Ford disclose those numbers,..... seriously, I am almost laughing at that post now
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post Nov 23 2016, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Nov 23 2016, 10:23 AM)
In the last 5 year of owning my fiesta, I've never had to put the car overnight in a workshop for even one night.

Saying something loudly means something, I presume?
Or it boil down to pure luck, then what's the difference ?
And again, get your terminology right before you blare like no tomorrow.

I know you're not a savvy guy, but please, please please try.
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HI, I think let this Ginny fella win lah, arguing like this ain't gonna make our wallets thicker LOL
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post Nov 23 2016, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Nov 23 2016, 09:42 AM)
In the last 11 years of owning a Jap car I've never had to put the car overnight in a workshop for even one night. Can you say that of your Fiesta?
You are one of the very lucky ones. The average Fiesta owner will need to change their DCT within the first 3 years, sometimes more than once.
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OKla OKla, you win la, your 11 year old car is the best!
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post Nov 23 2016, 03:10 PM

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Just want to add my 2 cents as well.

2011 Fiesta here as well... issues with the car are all down to luck I guess. It has been a smooth ownership for me so far.

I drive my car hard, completed 110k in 5.5 years, on 3rd set of wheels, 2 battery changes, headlight bulbs require replacements every 6 months, absorbers are shot, engine mounting are shot. No major issues so far.

But all the periodic maintenance are done on time. Oil changes, timing belt change, etc..

Can't comment on the maintenance, but this is a really fun little car. It's due for a replacement but no competitor has been able to offer a car at a similar price point for the driving experience.




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post Nov 23 2016, 03:27 PM

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TS has already made his decision to stay away from Fiesta, let's not confuse him anymore laugh.gif

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post Nov 23 2016, 04:42 PM

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Well, for a newbie with cars I can't really recommend a second hand Fiesta.


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post Nov 23 2016, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Nov 23 2016, 10:23 AM)
In the last 5 year of owning my fiesta, I've never had to put the car overnight in a workshop for even one night.

Saying something loudly means something, I presume?
Or it boil down to pure luck, then what's the difference ?
And again, get your terminology right before you blare like no tomorrow.

I know you're not a savvy guy, but please, please please try.
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I'm curious, how did you assume when a text in a forum is being said loudly? Is it up to you to decide what is loud and what is not?

Owning a car should not be based on pure luck. You can slant the odds in your favour with proper choice. Do you want to take your chance with a car with 80% chance of problems or one with 10% chance?

Then again, if I have to teach you this you are not a very savvy guy.

Good for you if you have a perfect experience with your Fiesta. Let's hope it stays that way for the next 5 years. I still say you are lucky. But it's running out of warranty and this is not a car you want to keep without warranty. Just a bit of friendly advice.

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post Nov 24 2016, 05:56 AM

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Nov 23 2016, 04:57 PM)
I'm curious, how did you assume when a text in a forum is being said loudly? Is it up to you to decide what is loud and what is not?

Owning a car should not be based on pure luck. You can slant the odds in your favour with proper choice. Do you want to take your chance with a car with 80% chance of problems or one with 10% chance?

Then again, if I have to teach you this you are not a very savvy guy.

Good for you if you have a perfect experience with your Fiesta. Let's hope it stays that way for the next 5 years. I still say you are lucky. But it's running out of warranty and this is not a car you want to keep without warranty. Just a bit of friendly advice.
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I'm also curious, how did you assume when my car without problem is a luck problem while yours is due to facts?

Either way, isn't it the same when our dealer "Eeny, meeny, miny, moe" out our car from the yard and called it a day? IF so, how difference it is with your chance of getting a good car work out better than mine?

While on the other hand, you while mostly claim internet reviews, user feedback and other sources to prove to me that Fiesta is inherently lousy and crappy, I would not argue you with that since everyone will have their opinion regarding anything but again, I would like you to stop from poking from one situation to another situation regarding this so called reliability issue, which is more of propaganda or misleading information.

Again, get you terminology correct, learn about the tech before you accusing something.

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