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post Feb 10 2007, 12:19 AM, updated 19y ago

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The new processors will be the Core 2 Duo E6650, E6750, E6800, and E6850. Processors with a number ending in "50" will have a 1333 MT/s FSB. The processors will all have 4 MiB of L2 cache. Their clock frequency will be similar to that of the already released processors with the same first two digits (E6600, E6700, X6800)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2#Conroe_2
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post Feb 10 2007, 08:15 AM

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Oic. But for example E6600 oledi got 4MB L2 cache, so the E6650 should got 8MB L2 cache???

Also how much d performance increases with new FSB1333?
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QUOTE(jcliew @ Feb 10 2007, 08:15 AM)
Oic. But for example E6600 oledi got 4MB L2 cache, so the E6650 should got 8MB L2 cache???

Also how much d performance increases with new FSB1333?
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Learn to read friend. those with 50 markings will have FSB 1333Mhz. Not increased cache
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post Feb 10 2007, 08:31 AM


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interesting...1333FSB,will getting easier when wanna oc...
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post Feb 10 2007, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Feb 10 2007, 08:28 AM)
Learn to read friend. those with 50 markings will have FSB 1333Mhz. Not increased cache
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I know dude. But for d E6320 n E6420 their L2 increase from 2MB to 4MB. Then why intel not increase d L2 cache for d rest with 50 marking?

This post has been edited by jcliew: Feb 10 2007, 08:36 AM
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post Feb 10 2007, 08:44 AM

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what else do u want.. intel does't want to increase the cache size.. beside that.. bigger cache are slower and more expensive to manufacture
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post Feb 10 2007, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(jinaun @ Feb 10 2007, 08:44 AM)
what else do u want.. intel does't want to increase the cache size.. beside that.. bigger cache are slower and more expensive to manufacture
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Is that true higher cache capacity will slower d processor?
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QUOTE(jcliew @ Feb 10 2007, 08:47 AM)
If can i want free processor from Intel brows.gif
Is that true higher cache capacity will slower d processor?
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hint...

y do u need 4mb L2 cache.. and not 4MB L1 cache???
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QUOTE(jinaun @ Feb 10 2007, 08:49 AM)
hint...

y do u need 4mb L2 cache.. and not 4MB L1 cache???
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Not quiz now lah bro... sweat.gif
actually i'm not expert in processor architecture... sweat.gif
what the function of L1 n L2 n L3 as well???
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QUOTE(jcliew @ Feb 10 2007, 08:51 AM)
Not quiz now lah bro... sweat.gif
actually i'm not expert in processor architecture... sweat.gif
what the function of L1 n L2 n L3 as well???
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think of it as waterfall effect.. L1 overflows to L2 overflows to L3 overflows to RAM overflows to HDD
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post Feb 10 2007, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(jinaun @ Feb 10 2007, 08:49 AM)
hint...

y do u need 4mb L2 cache.. and not 4MB L1 cache???
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Hehehe that would be *quite* costly to produce at the moment.. brows.gif

But cache size is not that critical if you are regular user, even in c2d benchies mosts apps are on par whether 2mb or 4mb...
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QUOTE(vey99 @ Feb 10 2007, 08:54 AM)
Hehehe that would be *quite* costly to produce at the moment.. brows.gif

But cache size is not that critical if you are regular user, even in c2d benchies mosts apps are on par whether 2mb or 4mb...
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But from what my friend tell me d L2 capacity dun affect us esp in gaming. It only show d difference where calculating Super Pi with slightly faster time count. doh.gif


Added on February 10, 2007, 9:10 am
QUOTE(jinaun @ Feb 10 2007, 08:53 AM)
think of it as waterfall effect.. L1  overflows to L2 overflows to L3 overflows to RAM overflows to HDD
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Oh... like this ah? Is that u mean d highest capacity will be at the bottom?

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post Feb 10 2007, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(jcliew @ Feb 10 2007, 09:08 AM)
Oh... like this ah? Is that u mean d highest capacity will be at the bottom?
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isn't is always like that??

the fastest memory in CPU is called the register..

small & fast cache is nearer to the core while bigger and slower is further..

with the exception of duron.. its second level is half the size of its L1 cache.. coz its exclusive cache

exclusive cache means content of L1 is not duplicated into L2.. eg

if exclusive = 128KB L1 + 256 KB L2 = 384KB effective cache or in the case of duron, its 128KB L1 + 64KB L2 = 192KB effective cache..

if inclusive = 128KB L1 + 256 KB L2 = 256KB effective cache.. of coz.. whatever reside in L1 will still be accessed quicker.



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Oh i c. Then only d Duron family is exception in this case. Thx 4 ur knowledge dude! thumbup.gif
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post Feb 10 2007, 10:53 AM

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Since the FSB is 1333, that means you need a new mobo to support? I mean currently most mobo supports 1033Mhz right?

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QUOTE(Imaizumi @ Feb 10 2007, 10:53 AM)
Since the FSB is 1333, that means you need a new mobo to support? I mean currently most mobo supports 1033Mhz right?
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Suppose 1066MHz dude... sweat.gif

From what i know there r sum board juz need 2 update their BIOS then can support FSB1333 oledi. depends on what board lah but i'm not sure which board can be updated to support FSB1333.
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Eh,how much from C2DE6650 til E6850?
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QUOTE(jcliew @ Feb 10 2007, 08:35 AM)
I know dude. But for d E6320 n E6420 their L2 increase from 2MB to 4MB. Then why intel not increase d L2 cache for d rest with 50 marking?
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He said all those processors will have 4MB L2Cache. That simply means there is no L2 increase for E6600 or other processors that already have 4MB L2 Cache.
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Will the price cut again with the release of E6X50 series?
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post Feb 11 2007, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(Goliath764 @ Feb 10 2007, 10:14 PM)
Will the price cut again with the release of E6X50 series?
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I think there will be price cut as core 2 procs nowardays oledi becum mainstream liao. smile.gif


Added on February 11, 2007, 7:56 am
QUOTE(hotdog @ Feb 10 2007, 03:09 PM)
He said all those processors will have 4MB L2Cache. That simply means there is no L2 increase for E6600 or other processors that already have 4MB L2 Cache.
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Since d older E6600 oledi hav 4MB L2, then i dun think d newer E6650 got any interesting point to tweak it. As u know d newer E6650 FSB is 1333MHz, with higher FSB compare 2 FSB1066MHz on E6600, d multiplier of E6650 will be lower rite? Since d E6600 n E6650 default frequency still @2.4GHz, i'm sure d older E6600 giv us more tweaking option when OCing d procs! rclxms.gif
Furthermore d multiplier of C2D only can adjust lower n not higher. sweat.gif

This post has been edited by jcliew: Feb 11 2007, 07:56 AM

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