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waja2000
post Dec 6 2016, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Dec 5 2016, 09:28 PM)
Pakistan Is About to Buy a Half-Million New Rifles

A Czech weapon is the favorite

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War is boring
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i also very like CZ-806 。。。。 hopefully army can tryout CZ-806 too...
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post Dec 7 2016, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Dec 7 2016, 01:42 AM)
Still there
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I didn't know we put Damocles pod on our Su30
Seems all the more reason to go Rafale for commonality now
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if we get Rafale can use Damocles pod also.
anyway Damocles pod many military analysis said it is not very good pod due to scan area are only 320x320, other figther jet manufacture reconn pod may may have 640 or 800 scan area. also Damocles NG (new Generation) pod currently in develop & testing by Thales and estimated ready in 2018, Damocles NG will have 1024 scan area.

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post Dec 7 2016, 10:14 AM

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post Dec 7 2016, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Dec 7 2016, 01:13 PM)
Yes thats why I'm not terribly thrilled
The Typhoon pod is said to be better (I think its RAPTOR?)
I think he edited it and put it back up by the time I rechecked

The part about using Damocles to drop Paveway is gone

Either
1) we really did and its top secret or
2) we dropped a Russian LGB not Paveway or
3) we dropped Paveway but didn't use Damocles

Hmmmmmm
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if not wrong Typhoon use LITENING pod,new one LITENING pod have 640x480 resolution. but it make by Rafael Corporation/Northrop Grumman (We can use on F18?)


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post Dec 12 2016, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Dec 12 2016, 10:38 AM)
how many hornet had crashed for the last 6 month?

7? 8?
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from June-Dec already 9 unit F18 crash.
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post Dec 13 2016, 09:42 AM

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Other US show is coming after Air Force 1, now F-35 cost overun for years. laugh.gif laugh.gif
LM stock drop 3% already, equal value about 4 billion.

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post Dec 15 2016, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Dec 14 2016, 11:25 PM)
Sales pitch yes.. but theres certain truth in it.

Taiwan's Mirage2000 fleet is barely flying, army still running M48's, Navy running WW2 vintage sub.
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taiwan Mirage2000 less and less to fly due to they lack of parts,and at the end will be storing. france stop supply parts to Taiwan due to Taiwan La Fayette-class frigate scandal, and become politic argument for years, and they don't want drop court case in Taiwan, so France angry and stop supply parts。

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post Dec 15 2016, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Dec 15 2016, 03:05 PM)
How can you tell?
Looks like white shots from here. Aren't practice rounds usually blue?
Big mouth only (I hope)
The other partners won't let him get away with it
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just re-negotiation price only, but every one also know new US weapon program cost over runs for decade, DDG1000, F-35, Ford Aircraft Carriar, LCS, AF1, etc .. make weapon industry company collect huge profit.
he just send signal to weapon industry company don't make too much money.

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post Dec 19 2016, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Dec 18 2016, 09:42 PM)
Hercules yang Jatuh Dinyatakan Layak Terbang

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Pesawat C-130H Hercules dengan kode A-1334 (photo : fidaperkasa)

JAKARTA (TEROPONSENAYAN) - Wakil Kepala Staf TNI Angkatan Udara Marsekal Madya TNI Hadiyan Sumintaatmadja mengatakan pesawat Hercules C-130 HS yang jatuh di Papua masih layak terbang.

"Secara kelaikan pesawat ini layak terbang, sisa jam terbang 9.000 jam terbang, semua kondisi layak terbang," katanya saat jumpa pers di Halim Perdanakusuma, Jakarta Timur, Minggu (18/12/2016).

Ia menjelaskan bahwa pesawat Hercules itu terbang dalam misi latihan peningkatan kemampuan penerbang.

Dalam latihan terbang itu, penerbang yang saat ini berstatus kopilot diuji untuk bisa menjadi Kapten Pilot.

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"Dan misi di Papua ini adalah tes. Uji coba salah satu latihan bahwa nantinya para penerbang ini mampu mengoperasikan di manapun berada," ujar Hadiyan.

Hadiyan mengatakan pesawat itu mungkin jatuh karena faktor cuaca. Ia lantas menjelaskan bahwa ada lima faktor yang harus diselidiki dan dianalisis dalam kecelakaan penerbangan, yakni manusia, material, media, misi dan manajemen.

"Jadi, jangan terburu-buru menyimpulkan, karena perlu analisa. Kita sudah kirim tim investigasi. Pangkoopsau II akan memimpin langsung proses evakuasi di Wamena," katanya.

Pesawat Hercules bernomor A-1334 itu berangkat dari Timika pukul 05.35 WIT dan dijadwalkan mendarat di Wamena pukul 06.13 WIT, namun hilang kontak pukul 06.09 WIT.

Pesawat itu diawaki 12 orang. Pilotnya Mayor Pnb Marlon A Kawer. Bersama mereka ada satu orang penumpang.

"Satu penumpang terusan dari Abdurrahman Saleh bernama Kapt Rino dari Satuan Radar 242 Tanjung Warari, Biak juga menjadi korban," kata Wakil Kepala Staf TNI Angkatan Udara.

Ia menambahkan pesawat itu membawa Semen dengan berat sekitar 12 ton.

"Pengangkutan Semen  biggrin.gif  blink.gif  tersebut resmi permintaan dari Pemprov Papua. Kegiatan pengangkutan dengan menggunakan pesawat TNI AU untuk membantu pembangunan di daerah," katanya. (Teropong)

Enam Peristiwa Lainnya Pesawat Hercules Jatuh di Indonesia - falling like flies

INILAHCOM, Jakarta - Pesawat Hercules C-130 merupakan pesawat terbang bermesin empat mesin turbo.

Pesawat itu biasa digunakan sebagai pengangkat udara taktikal utama untuk pasukan militer di banyak bagian dunia. Hercules mampu mendarat dan lepas landas dari runway yang pendek atau tidak disiapkan.

Sebelumnya pesawat itu digunakan untuk mengangkut tentara dan pesawat kargo. Selain itu juga digunakan untuk berbagai kegunaan seperti infantri airbone, pengamatan cuaca, pengisian bahan bakar di udara, pemadam kebakaran udara, dan ambulance udara.

Beberapa kali pesawat itu mengalami kecelakaan di Indonesia. Berikut rangkumannya:

20 November 1985 (A-1322)

Pesawat Hercules C-130-MP milik TNI AU jatuh setelah menabrak dinding pegunungan Sibayak. menewaskan 10 awak pesawat.

5 Oktober 1991 (A-1324)

Pesawat Hercules C-130 jatuh di Condet, Jakarta Timur. 135 orang menjadi korban dari kecelakaan ini. Korban terdiri dari 12 orang awak dan 121 lainnya adalah anggota Paskhas AU, serta dua satpam Balai Latihan Kerja Departemen Tenaga Kerja.

20 Desember 2001(A-1329)

Jatuh sekitar pukul 09.45 WIB di Bandara Malikussaleh, Lhokseumawe, Aceh Utara. Pesawat ini mengangkut penumpang dan amunisi terjatuh karena kegagalan pendaratan sehingga mengalami total loss.

Mengangkut 90 penumpang, diantaranya 70 perwira TNI, 27 perwira Kostrad, dan delapan perwira Kopassus.

11 Mei 2009 (A-1302)

Pesawat Hercules C-130 milik TNI AU terjatuh di Bandara Wamena, Papua. Penyebabnya adalah pesawat ini mengalami copot ban saat mendarat. Roda pesawat yang copot menghantam satu warga.

20 Mei 2009 (A-1325)

Pesawat Hercules C-130 jenis Long Body terjatuh di Desa Geplak, Karas, Magetan Jawa Timur. Saat jatuh pesawat pesawat dengan nomor registrasi A1325 mengangkut 120 orang. Jatuh sekitar pukul 06.25 WIB.

Kecelakaan menelan cukup banyak korban, 101 orang tewas dan 11 luka. Menimpa dua rumah warga lalu terbakar dan menyusup di pohon bambu. Sebelum jatuh terdengar dua suara ledakan.

30 Juni 2015 (A-1310)

Hercules C-130 milik TNI AU terjatuh di Jalan Jamin Ginting Kota Medan Sumatera Utara sekitar pukul 12.14 WIB. Pesawat ini jatuh tak lama setelah lepas landas dari Lanud Soewondo (eks. Bandara Polonia). (Inilah)

http://nasional.inilah.com/read/detail/221...uh-di-indonesia
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RIP ....
TNI-AU should think upgrade there C-130 to new one like C-130J
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post Dec 21 2016, 12:29 PM

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how about we create a whatapps group ... for military
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post Dec 30 2016, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Dec 30 2016, 11:35 AM)
The Indonesian Navy received three new 28m Patrol Boats built by local shipyard PT Tesco Indomaritim on Wednesday December 28, 2016.

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I like design, very suitable for MMEA or RMN as patrol boat too. should be able to provided endurance 3 day in sea。
seems Indo shipyard able to design/built so many modern patrol boat, but our shipyard no have this capability 。。。

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post Jan 4 2017, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jan 4 2017, 02:59 PM)
good progress, getting VT-4 icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 5 2017, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 4 2017, 09:27 PM)
originally from Type 90 mk II
then develop into MBT2000
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MBT2000 is VT-2
VT-4 is MBT3000.
VT-4 add some tech from type-99A

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post Jan 12 2017, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(dongfeng21 @ Jan 12 2017, 12:58 AM)
I believe even if china is willing to export its J31,J10

The russian AL jet engine would most likely to be fitted
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No, J-31 (Export name: FC-31) will using China own made WS-13E turbofan engine, last month J-31 2.0 version 2 already use this engine WS-13E for first flight. WS-13 is copy version of russia RD-33 (Mig-29 engine) but with enhancement, WS-13E is final production version and no more black smoke. design life 3000 hrs for 9 tons power after trust, news say it can burst to 9.5 tons power for emergency (during real combat) but life will reduce. AVIC already start construction of engine factory to produce WS-13E in 2019/2020

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post Jan 12 2017, 09:52 AM

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i just read some website, said 9mm bullet use in SMG gun like PDRM MP5 and Scorpian Evo 3A1, can't use in 9mm handgun like Glock etc. is true ? it due to 9mm bullet shells is different for SMG version. and they use some world police internal report issue using MP5 9mm bullet in 9mm Glock handgun cause many problems.
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post Jan 12 2017, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 12 2017, 10:00 AM)
Never heard anything like that. AFAIK all ammunition of a particular caliber is standardized in bullet weight, propellant load and overall dimensions. Manufacturing quirks by different companies may differentiate the performance from one batch to another, but these are not by design.

No such thing as a special 9mm parabellum round for SMGs/pistols only. confused.gif
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well possible bullet weight, propellant load and overall dimension maybe is same? but website said SMG design shooting range upto 100-200meter, so need harder bullet shells, well 9mm hangun design for 10-40 meter, so need more cheaper means bullet spec can be lower as long meet spec. or an possible SMG using 9mm handgun bullet but range will reduce range like to 100 meter (example) like that ?

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post Jan 16 2017, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jan 16 2017, 12:09 PM)
Indonesian Army Kostrad Combat Recon. Credit to Pen Kostrad.

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CZ805 ?
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post Jan 16 2017, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jan 16 2017, 03:01 PM)
Yes. The Indonesian Navy SF Kopaska is also using the CZ 805 Bren.

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Credit to original uploader.
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i like CZ806 Bren2
come with 5.56mm and 7.62mm version
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post Jan 17 2017, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Jan 16 2017, 10:19 PM)
why do u like it?
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design look nicer and light about 3kg only.

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post Jan 20 2017, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Jan 19 2017, 10:13 PM)
but i dont think a400m is usd400mil per-plane? 
wiki states is around usd162mil or €152mil confused.gif
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that USD 162mil is many year ago price. plus C17 already retire。
A400M 2016-2017 price should be 230mil+- each, remaining is Parts, supports equipment, training maintenance crew and pilot, simulator, plus how many service years with Airbus. anyway better wait deal sign only can confirm。

QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Jan 19 2017, 10:30 PM)
iirc they mulled buying the a400m before but didnt go ahead cuz its kinda expensive and they can get hercules for cheap from uncle sam
well i guess they have money now then  laugh.gif
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new C130J also no really cheap now, cost about 140-150mil each for 2016/17 price.

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