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 EcoMajestic @ Semenyih (VERSION 13A!), Gentlebre & Cradleton VP-ing soon...

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poorpoorunderdog
post Nov 17 2016, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 02:25 PM)
You are oure a idiot that I won't waste anymore time on joker like you.
From day one, you never said anything are informative with point beside "Eco World No 1", "Makan good... Got free food ar?"
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Yes, idiot , i think he is EM running dog,
Underdog is better then running dog .

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post Nov 17 2016, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 04:47 PM)
good choice or bad choice ...welcome to si beh ulu place and we can yumcha when we moved in...we can take u swan fishing then...sorry mistake...duck fishing...
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Can, let me know when, haha
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post Nov 17 2016, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 04:58 PM)
well he already moved on liao on the slope issue... i guess the next is whether there is any project that upon VP... their landscaping is not as what they promised initially when they launched the project...
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since landscapping is predominantly a heated contest and heavy weightage on expectations - so far has there been any open standards to declare which ones fail or succeed ? Any award / contest ? or its all down to individual expectations varies
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post Nov 17 2016, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(bingonglee @ Nov 17 2016, 05:01 PM)
Can, let me know when, haha
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can i tumpang too ? rclxm9.gif
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post Nov 17 2016, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 17 2016, 05:04 PM)
since landscapping is predominantly a heated contest and heavy weightage on expectations - so far has there been any open standards to declare which ones fail or succeed ? Any award / contest ? or its all down to individual expectations varies
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well in this context... can only compare against township that give promises like EW did i think... otherwise... no matter what also wouldn't be fair comparison... and so far... not much developers willing to give promises on landscaping like EW did except SPS maybe... even IJM, SDB, Gamuda also didn't emphasize their landscaping that much during project launching... hence owners will be happier if there are found anything familiar compare to brochures i guess... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Nov 17 2016, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 04:54 PM)
Smart and wisdom are different..these short sight developer thought they are smart but no wisdom to understand what they are losing.

For Cradleton part I know. I have clarify many many times I already pass on slope as I know nothing we can do.
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The developer will try anything to save cost during construction and to meet deadline, sometime it will jeopardize the quality. We as a buyer will be on losing side.
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post Nov 17 2016, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 05:07 PM)
well in this context... can only compare against township that give promises like EW did i think... otherwise... no matter what also wouldn't be fair comparison... and so far... not much developers willing to give promises on landscaping like EW did except SPS maybe... even IJM, SDB, Gamuda also didn't emphasize their landscaping that much during project launching... hence owners will be happier if there are found anything familiar compare to brochures i guess...  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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i see ...thanks bro; so all in all thee is no open standards to guage and certify landscaping officially
Maybe we should have the official VP include landscape as part of it, since maintenance fee is something all have to pay eventually for upkeeping

Otherwise, u see , i feel will not come to any good , surely there will be huge gaps of expectations between buyers VS developers, and moreover as brochures rendering as become part of marketing gimmick, VP law should be enlarged to protect buyers who bought in based on landscaping too nod.gif
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post Nov 17 2016, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 17 2016, 05:12 PM)
i see ...thanks bro; so all in all thee is no open standards to guage and certify landscaping officially
Maybe we should have the official VP include landscape as part of it, since maintenance fee is something all have to pay eventually for upkeeping

Otherwise, u see , i feel will not come to any good , surely there will be huge gaps of expectations between buyers VS developers, and moreover as brochures rendering as become part of marketing gimmick, VP law should be enlarged to protect buyers who bought in based on landscaping too nod.gif
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somehow... this may be how the property in Msia works... its quite sad actually... thats why most of the project launching i went... they will just emphasize on the general concepts... but they will not show you their commitment on the tiny details... thats the way is it... hopefully there is law that enable buyers to sue the developers based on their marketing brochures and photos and even bypass the disclaimer statement set on the brochure...
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post Nov 17 2016, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 05:15 PM)
somehow... this may be how the property in Msia works... its quite sad actually... thats why most of the project launching i went... they will just emphasize on the general concepts... but they will not show you their commitment on the tiny details... thats the way is it... hopefully there is law that enable buyers to sue the developers based on their marketing brochures and photos and even bypass the disclaimer statement set on the brochure...
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agree...but on a holistic manner i think the current VP law shd be amended , if landscapping has been part of selling / sames goes for brochure renderings ; then it should be part of the VP checklist, otherwise skip here change that, end of the day, buyers at the ones losing and frustrated
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post Nov 17 2016, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(poorpoorunderdog @ Nov 17 2016, 05:01 PM)
Yes, idiot , i think he is EM running dog,
Underdog is better then running dog .
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wah ...poor poor underdog...u really can catch us up like a jack bunny..good for u...our miow miow also cannot catch up so fast...by the time u replied it will be another 10 postings faster then ur replied...good job.....
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post Nov 17 2016, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(poorpoorunderdog @ Nov 17 2016, 05:01 PM)
Yes, idiot , i think he is EM running dog,
Underdog is better then running dog .
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Y u guys wanna play gang up ah... rclxms.gif
Bring it on bruce.gif

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post Nov 17 2016, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 05:30 PM)
wah ...poor poor underdog...u really can catch us up like a jack bunny..good for u...our miow miow also cannot catch up so fast...by the time u replied it will be another 10 postings faster then ur replied...good job.....
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Name itself already sound so dodgy...what to expect rclxm9.gif hmm.gif
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post Nov 17 2016, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 05:30 PM)
wah ...poor poor underdog...u really can catch us up like a jack bunny..good for u...our miow miow also cannot catch up so fast...by the time u replied it will be another 10 postings faster then ur replied...good job.....
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 17 2016, 05:46 PM)
Y u guys wanna play gang up ah... rclxms.gif
Bring it on  bruce.gif

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Lol... whatever dog, Slumdog Millionaire is the best I guess
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post Nov 17 2016, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 17 2016, 05:49 PM)
Lol... whatever dog, Slumdog Millionaire is the best I guess
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Think cannot Dog Liao...haram le later become hotdog fiasco drool.gif
Anyways, let's try to with more peace and zen flex.gif
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post Nov 17 2016, 06:25 PM

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Wah. This thread moves so fast. I am lost. I can imagine how the discussions will be like when VP. 10x more complaints
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post Nov 17 2016, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 17 2016, 02:43 PM)
I'm not a lawyer (despite having a second LLB degree), I'm pretty sure you will not have much avenue to press your claims against a developer on landscaping that does not meet your personal standard. I'll bet there is nothing in the S&P that outlines how the landscaping is to be done.

Hence the only recourse for the buyers is to take it to social media and hit them where they hurt.. at their reputation. If they build up their premium tag reputation based on promises alone, and being shown they dont live up to their promises would be very damaging.
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Thanks. Your advice and points are much appreciated.
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post Nov 17 2016, 06:46 PM

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I am of the view that plants and landscaping need time to mature. So as long as EM is doing the maintenance and upkeep, in due course the landscaping will become nice.

Just like Desa Park City, I visited that place many times in 2008 and when i visited the place again recently, it was much nicer than I remember it to be.

I am not blindly supporting EM to say that it will be as nice or rival DPC but i am just stating the fact that it will need time to mature.
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post Nov 17 2016, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(mamaky @ Nov 17 2016, 12:55 PM)
Funny how some ppl (claimed to be owner) here still defending EM like no tomorrow despite knowing the end product will never be close to what was promised. Only one possibility- EW cyber troopers are real.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion,and , the troopers really did some pretty good job.
I have seen their works across multiple forums, and the works are pretty elaborate and efficient.

Also, I have noted some troopers indicating that they are purchasers' too.

Maybe it is time the trooper assist in highlighting to the mgt the purchasers' concerns
The troopers are after all, purchasers too.
So, it's win win for the troopers.
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post Nov 17 2016, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(BREXIT @ Nov 17 2016, 06:54 PM)
Everyone is entitled to their opinion,and , the troopers really did some pretty good job.
I have seen their works across multiple forums, and the works are pretty elaborate and efficient.

Also, I have noted some troopers indicating that they are purchasers' too.

Maybe it is time the trooper assist in highlighting to the mgt the purchasers' concerns 
The troopers are after all, purchasers too.
So, it's win win for the troopers.
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Have u guys even wondered there is a grp of owners who just can't be bothered with too much details - down to every aspect of things ? Now there u go for some food of thought....


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