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 EcoMajestic @ Semenyih (VERSION 13A!), Gentlebre & Cradleton VP-ing soon...

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hpteoh88
post Nov 17 2016, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 17 2016, 02:43 PM)
I'm not a lawyer (despite having a second LLB degree), I'm pretty sure you will not have much avenue to press your claims against a developer on landscaping that does not meet your personal standard. I'll bet there is nothing in the S&P that outlines how the landscaping is to be done.

Hence the only recourse for the buyers is to take it to social media and hit them where they hurt.. at their reputation. If they build up their premium tag reputation based on promises alone, and being shown they dont live up to their promises would be very damaging.
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if there is no contractual obligation...u can still sue if u had rely on the hearsay and u made a monetary loss to urself based on the hearsay....
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post Nov 17 2016, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(mthc @ Nov 17 2016, 02:49 PM)
Branding brother.

Tan&Tan - village park nasi lemak

Ecoworld - succulent tender deep fried chicken with aromatic Asian spice batter served with coconut fragrant jasmine rice complemented by chef TSL secret sweet and spicy Sam all chili topped with roasted Malaysian peanuts and broiled anchovies
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ini manyak geng cao.... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

hence the marketing arm of EW is good... they create such hallucination to their potential buyers... and TSL track record from SPS....
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post Nov 17 2016, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:48 PM)
Hahaha...so u can throw the circuit breaker like the KLSE mkt when all of a sudden the mkt collapsed....

Glad to know there is a umpire watching all of us...
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post Nov 17 2016, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 02:34 PM)
I didn't said these are backlane of all houses. Can easily see no space for that in 15ft dy.
I am showing the general environment level they committed to us.
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Diver gor, I suggest that you may gather cradleton buyer and talk to EW on your concern. This is what SEH RA done about the fencing issue for P1 even before house vpe. If Evon cant resolved your concern, you can write email to their CEO & Tan Sri. SEH RA also do the same last time when they unable to get what they want from SEH mgmt.

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post Nov 17 2016, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:44 PM)
time will tell...but u need to credit EW for expanding so fast in Msia and in international mkt.....

Pty development strategy is simple...once u acquired land..u need to finance and pay for the empty land...to overcome cost of finance you need to launch the fastest way to sell off all the hses so to lighten off the cost of financing and now its all about carpet bombing like Country garden in JB .....marketing strategy and advertisements work for a short while only..after that the wow and herd factor will loose steam....
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I think they are aware that the hype factor will only last so long if without any real quality delivery to back them up. Thats why they are launching so many projects concurrently while still riding high on their premium tag hype. I lost count how many projects they have right now.... seriously its not easy to monitor/manage 10+ projects that is under construction at the same time.... talent problem etc.


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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:51 PM)
ini manyak geng cao....  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

hence the marketing arm of EW is good... they create such hallucination to their potential buyers... and TSL track record from SPS....
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its all coming soon, VP time, surely there will be media coverage, GOOD n BAD, it should be unveil to all n public by then

now is all abt .......goreng prelude to VP....remember how the 3 presidential debates until the climax of actual election ? rclxms.gif
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post Nov 17 2016, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(bingonglee @ Nov 17 2016, 02:29 PM)
Guys,  I need some opinion since you guys talked about Ecohill@Semenyih. I recently got an offer Rumah Selangorku at Villa Kesuma@Semenyih and I working at Bangsar South. What do you think? Is it a good choice? haihh, Im thinking I need to drive so far. Now I just taking LRT since I stay at Setiawangsa. Although the house will be done in end of 2018, now Im worried dy. lol
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Boss, there are so many rumah selangorku, why must take the offer from villa kesuma townhouse?

If your priority is convenient to work, just stay back at Setiawangsa ler..
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:50 PM)
if there is no contractual obligation...u can still sue if u had rely on the hearsay and u made a monetary loss to urself based on the hearsay....
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THis line of argument generally goes down to "he say she say", with no way to back up either party's claims. As for proving monetary loss, you have to prove you rely on what the SA allegedly say etc etc and that there is actual monetary loss. In my uninformed opinion, legal recourse is not feasible, ofcourse you can try.
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:53 PM)
its all coming soon, VP time, surely there will be media coverage, GOOD n BAD, it should be unveil to all n public by then

now is all abt .......goreng prelude to VP....remember how the 3 presidential debates until the climax of actual election ? rclxms.gif
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i think.... if the product is really not good... sooner or later after VP everything will be revealed... by that time use the force of social media i.e facebook... the most effective method to hurt a business... i will help u guys share it as well to create pressure to EW... haha... in forum... basically they deem the pool too small for them to really threaten them... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:53 PM)
its all coming soon, VP time, surely there will be media coverage, GOOD n BAD, it should be unveil to all n public by then

now is all abt .......goreng prelude to VP....remember how the 3 presidential debates until the climax of actual election ? rclxms.gif
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Um... why would there be media coverage? Unless its awesome then EW will invite the media and start sending spiels to them. Otherwise its up to the the home owners to start complaining to the media...
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QUOTE(vincentSEH83 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:51 PM)
Diver gor, I suggest that you may gather cradleton buyer and talk to EW on your concern. This is what SEH RA done about the fencing issue for P1 even before house vpe. If Evon cant resolved your concern, you can write email to their CEO & Tan Sri. SEH RA also do the same last time when they unable to get what they want from SEH mgmt.
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Yes that's what I suggested too. Gather the buyers and find a solution- of course talk to EM Mgmt side is the sure thing need to be done first. Then strategize accordingly based on the outcome.

Publisize in the media can be an approach to be used but I think not at this stage.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:58 PM)
i think.... if the product is really not good... sooner or later after VP everything will be revealed... by that time use the force of social media i.e facebook... the most effective method to hurt a business... i will help u guys share it as well to create pressure to EW... haha... in forum... basically they deem the pool too small for them to really threaten them...  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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thanks bro...social media ...dun think EW will dare to play....actual facts VS brochures, big diff, gonna be a real blowout to them mega_shok.gif
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post Nov 17 2016, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 17 2016, 02:56 PM)
THis line of argument generally goes down to "he say she say", with no way to back up either party's claims. As for proving monetary loss, you have to prove you rely on what the SA allegedly say etc etc and that there is actual monetary loss. In my uninformed opinion, legal recourse is not feasible, ofcourse you can try.
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what I trying to say...nope u will not win as u did not incurred financial loss.....hard to prove landscaping less 10 trees affect the mkt value....n u make a loss of resale value..
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 02:34 PM)
I didn't said these are backlane of all houses. Can easily see no space for that in 15ft dy.
I am showing the general environment level they committed to us.
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Huh, not backlane of all houses, but for some houses? Where is the backlane garden picture? doh.gif doh.gif


QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 10:39 AM)
As discussed yesterday.
I have took some photos what being committed to buyers with our buyer booklet.
Keep this as record here and we compare again after VP.
This lake outside Cradleton, if you compare with your unit selection earlier, it match exactly. Hence, this should be something they committed earlier.

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All others backlane, entrance, roundabout...
You guys judge yourself. I would bravo for anyone still supporting Developer to do big con job. Good luck to your unit too. You're the encouraging them to do so.
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I suppose this is the curvey backlane you mean in your unit selection drawing too.
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post Nov 17 2016, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 17 2016, 02:58 PM)
Um... why would there be media coverage? Unless its awesome then EW will invite the media and start sending spiels to them. Otherwise its up to the the home owners to start complaining to the media...
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EM thread so hot liao, n EM being acclaimed to first landed GG in Greater KV , if they dun publicise, something is really wayyyy too wrong / fishy

N based on my observations, in the past some important events ie. Toll opening has media coverage tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 17 2016, 03:00 PM)
Yes that's what I suggested too. Gather the buyers and find a solution- of course talk to EM Mgmt side is the sure thing need to be done first. Then strategize accordingly based on the outcome.

Publisize in the media can be an approach to be used but I think not at this stage.
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I believe EW willing listen to buyer feedback as they know keeping of long term customer like diver gor very important. Unless EW refuse to do anything after buyer feedback then no choice need go to media. Dun forget that they are very good in media so it is no easy job also.
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post Nov 17 2016, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 03:02 PM)
Huh, not backlane of all houses, but for some houses? Where is the backlane garden picture?  doh.gif  doh.gif
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I think what he meant was the OPEN SPACE at the back of some hses...not the back lane of a hse to hse back lane.....
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 17 2016, 03:03 PM)
EM thread so hot liao, n EM being acclaimed to first landed GG in Greater KV , if they dun publicise, something is really wayyyy too wrong / fishy

N based on my observations, in the past some important events ie. Toll opening has media coverage tongue.gif
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Media these days very lazy de...

They will not go (and have no reason to) unless invited by EW.... OR if they think there is a big controversial scoop
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 17 2016, 03:00 PM)
Yes that's what I suggested too. Gather the buyers and find a solution- of course talk to EM Mgmt side is the sure thing need to be done first. Then strategize accordingly based on the outcome.

Publisize in the media can be an approach to be used but I think not at this stage.
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Already blow more than 50 pages, until now, still nothing concrete to discuss about EW not fulfilling the landscape. doh.gif doh.gif

Nadayu 92 Kajang, next to TH, strata title.

Dunno they have NadaGate issue or not, but NadaSlope issue sure have lah.. laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 03:05 PM)
I think what he meant was the OPEN SPACE at the back of some hses...not the back lane of a hse to hse back lane.....
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Oh.. sorry, sorry, sorry berlori-lori, my England very bad.. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

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