hey guys, my cousin form 4 attempted suicide just now. her mom saw her almost hang herself inside her room, previously she has been cutting herself d. need help looking for good psychiatrist in KL. thanks
she has been diagnosed wit cancer previously so not sure is tht the cause of it or not, or whether isit school bullies. her parents will b heading to school to talk to the teacher tmr.]

edit: lucifar please move this to serious kopitiam

This post has been edited by chinti: Nov 15 2016, 08:48 PM

i think best is,spend time with her

dont let her be alone,be by her side

we human,always need each other

1 conversation can go a long way

we r suspecting bcoz she kinda lost her freedom after diagnosed wit cancer n now feeling depress, her parents ban her from eating this n tht or doing this n tht.

probably.that could be the cause

she probably need motivation on being able to live

rather than people nagging her on how not to die

That day I pass by pudu and saw a psychiatrist clinic there.

I suppose this is an experienced doctor. Hopefully it helps.

https://www.google.com/search?q=klinik+paka...chrome&ie=UTF-8

yea but just in case i asked her mom to go school inform the teacher to keep an eye on her just in case if she suddenly attempted suicide in school

ty, will look into it

Whatever it is, get her out of her norm room/ atmosphere/ social group

Best it to have NOT HER CLOSE FAMILIES MEMBER, but someone who she can trust and open with

As a starter, her cousin (ts), of any close friend.. But not too many and have a real life activities.

im not close wit her, i din even c her for 5 years already. we trying to ask another aunt to try talk to her and see

Once I read a case from China. The summary:

One boy ---> age 8, diagnosed with final stage cancer.
Parent ---> straight away ignore the boy (no more good food, no more toys, no more book, no more entertainment, sent to grandparent house at far away village, treat as if the boy never existed in first place)
Parent ---> bang another child out within 9 months (100% income/effort towards the new baby, best milk, best clothes, everything best)
The boy ---> die alone few years later at grandparent house. Even grandparent ignored the boy.

Welcome to life.

go find this doctor

http://www.brainmindspecialists.com/index....ychiatrist-span

he was the president of Malaysian Psychiatric Association

we suspected tht too, she suddenly hv no freedom n stuck at home everyday

ty! will forward this to my aunt

Holy shit. You serious brah...?

You immediately thinking of bringing her to a psychiatrist is good. Most people brush such attempts away with words like "AHH! MENGADA NGADA!" or think it's just a phase that will go away.

Also, some drugs that can cure depression are controlled medicine so you can't just walk into a pharmacy and ask for Luvox. They need to be prescribed by doctors.

The psychiatrist may also recommend that she joins support groups for cancer patients. She may feel a lot better if she can find other cancer patients who still insist on living, and give herself the strength to continue.

Tell her family that she needs a lot of support. Not saying they should spoil her, but they have to oblige for anything she needs, especially those trips she may need to frequently make. Also, don't complain in front of her, as she may be hit with guilt.

Did parent divert attention/effort away from her?
If they do....no wonder she wanna commit suicide.

How old is she anyway?
Still in education or working?

im serious thts y im asking this to move to serious kopitiam, posted in wrong section.
her mom pi questions her y she wan suicide or bla bla bla, we asked her to stop questioning her, might make it even worse.

16 years old got cancer , why this world so unfair

I'm sorry. But you don't wanna have an oldies or veteran age with her atm. I find it deprrssing, to hv someone FAR above your age to consult and guide you out of sudden.

The only exception is being send to another remote house-village, with soothing and calming surrounding.

But yeah, to each their own.

Its ok even she's not close with anyone yet, long as the partner is/are helping within same age gap and situation.

Srs

tht im not sure, she do hv a younger brother. secondary form 4 so im guessing is 16 if not mistaken. luckily the mom on leave at home today else really gone d. she already tied the rope n everything d

for now its better to seek medical attention asap i guess, its so dangerous. they should hv done tht when she started cutting herself quite some time ago

This post has been edited by chinti: Nov 15 2016, 09:08 PM

Stopped reading there. I know it would be tragic anyway.

haih so young adi have to deal with cancer...did she fully recover from it?

Okay...16....still in education (cause some people quit to work right after form 3....)

So, her cancer is at which stage (Tumour, Node or Metastasis stage) and what type of cancer? (Skin cancer? Lung cancer?)

Most early stage is curable.

sorry im not really sure bout her cancer, i just know she was diagnosed wit it few years bak. then my aunt suddenly phone my sis just now seeking for help asking to find psychiatrist, they dun really know much bout this kinda stuff coz my uncle is not educated n selling vege in market only.

PPUM have a psychiatric unit. Well, for a start they will put medical students doing some interview and such before being referred to the doctor.

DAFUK 16 got cancer, what cancer is that

sorry i dunno, i hv to go ask if i wanna noe. all i know is cancer

Sorry to hear about your cousin. I have a friend who is diagnosed with depression and goes to see a psychiatrist once a month at glenmarie hospital. I have gone and teman her, but never met the psychiatrist (doctor is female). However, she's recovering quite well, so i would really absolutely recommend the psychiatrist.

Just my opinion, i hope your cousin's family is not taking this lightly as depression is really becoming quite a major illness in today's society

need to contact gomen hospital asap.
prescription drugs with immediate doctor attention might help to prevent things escalate further now.

Can go and join those cancer survivor groups.

you could try hospital sg buloh they have psychiatrist department, you should contact 1st to know the procedure for admitting a patient

http://hsgbuloh.moh.gov.my/ms/perkhidmatan...esihatan-mental

moved liao

hopefully she gets better mang

go for psychiatric help

http://www.psychiatry-malaysia.org/article.php?aid=449

Opt for the government one

She is entitled to free since she is a student

Btw, if she is admitted to hospital for attempt suicide, usually doctor will automatically refer her to psychiatrist

yea they r not taking this lightly even tho they din care much last time when she started cutting herself

yes they doing tht tmr n also searching for psychiatrist at the same time

ty very much

noted, they bringing her to c doctor tmr

Maybe religious counselling can help..she need to focus on a greater power from her depression.

I believe she lost her will to live due to her CANCER

Beside seeing psychiatric, you need to motivate her
For example, you can bring her to those NGO who help cancer patient
that share their recovery and treatment success story

https://www.facebook.com/cancersupport.my/
http://www.malaysiaoncology.org/section.php?sid=39


PLEASE MOTIVATE OR CARE INSTEAD OF ASKING OR GIVING INSTRUCTION

Hey i know a very good psychiatrist, his name is prof najib alwi, i think he can help u. Book an appointment if u r serious to go to his clinic in hospital an nur bangi - 03-8926 6060

This post has been edited by asus_2g: Nov 16 2016, 12:48 AM

I wished all the best for your cousin TS

Life is precious.

Enjoy every minute of it, and make a most from it.

Hopefully she recovered from cancer as well as her mental issue..

Shall we pay a visit? Give her support as well?

oh my...so onion...

She needs to find enjoyment to live again

I recommend a Dr. John Tan. He has a clinic in Old Klang Road.

so how is she now? don't tell me she's grounded at home

that age you need to go out and enjoy your teenage life with your friends

sounds like a good idea. count me in.

let's bring party to her

This post has been edited by motion_sickness: Nov 16 2016, 11:59 AM

So sorry to know about your cousin's condition.

They can try the National Cancel Council (MAKNA)

http://makna.org.my/our-role-and-impact/about/contact-us/

Hope this helps.

instead of banning from eating why not the whole family change to healthy diet. by doing that they could control her diet and give morale boost to her.
susah senang sama-sama

I've personally know people who went to seek help at this following centre:

Klinik Pakar Psikiatri Ting near IOI Boulevard, Puchong

Shield near Sungai Besi (http://www.sols247.org/shield/)

If money not an issue, go to Ting's but Shield is more affordable.

To be very honest, the approach to mental care here in malaysia still has much to improve. Most people, professionals and general public alike, look at it like a physical sickness which can be cured with pills. Matter of fact its a combination of care & medication, in fact more the former once the initial symptoms have come under control.

I say this because you can get pretty good medication etc from our hospitals, but the care side must come from family. Otherwise its a tough spot, and quickly becomes and endless cycle of episodes.

Somehow I get that impression from my session - the doctor told that I didn't need any medication. It's not that I come there asking for such medication in the first place.

Sigh, usually cancer onset on such an early age isn't caused by environmental or lifestyle choices. It's all in the genes. Changing her diet and forcing her to stay home isn't going to help one bit. Should just let her carry on her life as usual with her friends and schoolmates and follow the oncologist instructions. There's always some auntie or uncle that come and say "this xxx is good, must take a lot" or "must avoid xxxx later cancer come back" or some crap like that.

I strongly believe forcing her to change her lifestyle and forcing her to adapt to "old people sayings" are what drove her towards suicide. My mom was diagnosed with cancer a few months back and I've tried putting myself in her shoes, with all the nonsense and "advice" from the more elderly. If I'm forced to follow their instructions, I would probably do the same as her.

Anyway, I'm not a psychiatrist, that's just what I felt when I read the story. Best is still to bring her to a good psychiatrist and try to understand why she did it. Then please, listen to the professional's advice and don't try to become experts.

Tell me how you can heal mental illness with pills. Anyway. If mental illness is something to do with the physical, why is it that I never see people with head injuries develop mental illness?

Pills can supress bad symptoms (hysteria, hallucinations etc), but in long term counselling & support are the only way to go

You do realize that suppressing makes it worse do You?

Look I'm not arguing that popping pills is the way to go. But i would not discount their aid in treatment. I am no psychiatrist or psychologist, but speaking from personal experience.

If you believe in a no medication philosophy then by all means share your knowledge & information

my 17 year old brother was diagnosed with cancer too, stage 4 testis cancer, he passed out while doing physical activity at PLKN. against all odds he survived, its been almost 4 years. ,continuous emotional support is important, i bought things that he like, comic books etc etc, make him feel normal

cancer stage berapa?
stage 3 kasi makan saja apa die mau
end up mati juga

That the thgs, jus eat anything, any doctor here care to give some advise?

Agree, jus treat her as normal person, let her do what she like. Staying at home make her more depress. Any cancer surviver care to share ur experience?

Agreed on this, mental support is very important.

RIP

stage 4 even got hope to be healed. look lance armstrong

depends on the type of cancer?
dia kena cancer apa?

so TS when you want to intro your cousin to me?

What cancer, so young.

testicular and now he has children

look lance armstrong stage 4 cancer survived and becomr 8 years etape d france champion

not that guy
ur cousin la
testicular? telur ade 2 bro
1 down
got 1 more

Cancer got how many stages usually

4

Means stage 4 not sure mean death right

For us, indeed its a miracle, even the Penang GH doctor told us that hes only got at least 2 months left,

Good. Hope many people will survived too! Really sad knowing many ppl passed away at young age