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Q&A form 4 cousin attempted suicide, finding good psychiatrist in KL

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post Nov 16 2016, 11:26 AM

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I recommend a Dr. John Tan. He has a clinic in Old Klang Road.
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post Nov 16 2016, 11:57 AM

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so how is she now? don't tell me she's grounded at home

that age you need to go out and enjoy your teenage life with your friends
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post Nov 16 2016, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Nov 16 2016, 09:09 AM)
Shall we pay a visit? Give her support as well?
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sounds like a good idea. count me in.

let's bring party to her

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post Nov 16 2016, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(chinti @ Nov 15 2016, 08:45 PM)
hey guys, my cousin form 4 attempted suicide just now. her mom saw her almost hang herself inside her room, previously she has been cutting herself d. need help looking for good psychiatrist in KL. thanks
she has been diagnosed wit cancer previously so not sure is tht the cause of it or not, or whether isit school bullies. her parents will b heading to school to talk to the teacher tmr.]

edit: lucifar please move this to serious kopitiam
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So sorry to know about your cousin's condition.

They can try the National Cancel Council (MAKNA)

http://makna.org.my/our-role-and-impact/about/contact-us/

Hope this helps.
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post Nov 16 2016, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(chinti @ Nov 15 2016, 08:53 PM)
we r suspecting bcoz she kinda lost her freedom after diagnosed wit cancer n now feeling depress, her parents ban her from eating this n tht or doing this n tht.
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instead of banning from eating why not the whole family change to healthy diet. by doing that they could control her diet and give morale boost to her.
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post Nov 17 2016, 02:21 AM

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I've personally know people who went to seek help at this following centre:

Klinik Pakar Psikiatri Ting near IOI Boulevard, Puchong

Shield near Sungai Besi (http://www.sols247.org/shield/)

If money not an issue, go to Ting's but Shield is more affordable.
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post Nov 17 2016, 07:16 AM

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QUOTE(nazq @ Nov 15 2016, 09:13 PM)
PPUM have a psychiatric unit. Well, for a start they will put medical students doing some interview and such before being referred to the doctor.
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To be very honest, the approach to mental care here in malaysia still has much to improve. Most people, professionals and general public alike, look at it like a physical sickness which can be cured with pills. Matter of fact its a combination of care & medication, in fact more the former once the initial symptoms have come under control.

I say this because you can get pretty good medication etc from our hospitals, but the care side must come from family. Otherwise its a tough spot, and quickly becomes and endless cycle of episodes.
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post Nov 17 2016, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ Nov 17 2016, 07:16 AM)
To be very honest, the approach to mental care here in malaysia still has much to improve. Most people, professionals and general public alike, look at it like a physical sickness which can be cured with pills. Matter of fact its a combination of care & medication, in fact more the former once the initial symptoms have come under control.

I say this because you can get pretty good medication etc from our hospitals, but the care side must come from family. Otherwise its a tough spot, and quickly becomes and endless cycle of episodes.
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Somehow I get that impression from my session - the doctor told that I didn't need any medication. It's not that I come there asking for such medication in the first place.
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post Nov 17 2016, 04:27 PM

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Sigh, usually cancer onset on such an early age isn't caused by environmental or lifestyle choices. It's all in the genes. Changing her diet and forcing her to stay home isn't going to help one bit. Should just let her carry on her life as usual with her friends and schoolmates and follow the oncologist instructions. There's always some auntie or uncle that come and say "this xxx is good, must take a lot" or "must avoid xxxx later cancer come back" or some crap like that.

I strongly believe forcing her to change her lifestyle and forcing her to adapt to "old people sayings" are what drove her towards suicide. My mom was diagnosed with cancer a few months back and I've tried putting myself in her shoes, with all the nonsense and "advice" from the more elderly. If I'm forced to follow their instructions, I would probably do the same as her.

Anyway, I'm not a psychiatrist, that's just what I felt when I read the story. Best is still to bring her to a good psychiatrist and try to understand why she did it. Then please, listen to the professional's advice and don't try to become experts.
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post Nov 17 2016, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ Nov 17 2016, 07:16 AM)
To be very honest, the approach to mental care here in malaysia still has much to improve. Most people, professionals and general public alike, look at it like a physical sickness which can be cured with pills. Matter of fact its a combination of care & medication, in fact more the former once the initial symptoms have come under control.

I say this because you can get pretty good medication etc from our hospitals, but the care side must come from family. Otherwise its a tough spot, and quickly becomes and endless cycle of episodes.
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Tell me how you can heal mental illness with pills. Anyway. If mental illness is something to do with the physical, why is it that I never see people with head injuries develop mental illness?

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Nov 17 2016, 04:52 PM)
Tell me how you can heal mental illness with pills. Anyway. If mental illness is something to do with the physical, why is it that I never see people with head injuries develop mental illness?
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Pills can supress bad symptoms (hysteria, hallucinations etc), but in long term counselling & support are the only way to go
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Nov 17 2016, 06:17 PM)
Pills can supress bad symptoms (hysteria, hallucinations etc), but in long term counselling & support are the only way to go
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You do realize that suppressing makes it worse do You?
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post Nov 17 2016, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Nov 17 2016, 06:23 PM)
You do realize that suppressing makes it worse do You?
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Look I'm not arguing that popping pills is the way to go. But i would not discount their aid in treatment. I am no psychiatrist or psychologist, but speaking from personal experience.

If you believe in a no medication philosophy then by all means share your knowledge & information smile.gif
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post Nov 18 2016, 08:35 AM

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my 17 year old brother was diagnosed with cancer too, stage 4 testis cancer, he passed out while doing physical activity at PLKN. against all odds he survived, its been almost 4 years. ,continuous emotional support is important, i bought things that he like, comic books etc etc, make him feel normal
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post Nov 18 2016, 03:33 PM

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cancer stage berapa?
stage 3 kasi makan saja apa die mau
end up mati juga
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post Nov 18 2016, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(automan5891 @ Nov 15 2016, 09:05 PM)
her parents ban her from eating this n tht or doing this n tht.

Stupid as hell. Already dying now treated as a prisoner. I hope the parents get cancer asap.
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That the thgs, jus eat anything, any doctor here care to give some advise?

QUOTE(ashestoashes @ Nov 16 2016, 11:57 AM)
so how is she now? don't tell me she's grounded at home

that age you need to go out and enjoy your teenage life with your friends
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Agree, jus treat her as normal person, let her do what she like. Staying at home make her more depress. Any cancer surviver care to share ur experience?

QUOTE(Mithril1337 @ Nov 18 2016, 08:35 AM)
my 17 year old brother was diagnosed with cancer too, stage 4 testis cancer, he passed out while doing physical activity at PLKN. against all odds he survived, its been almost 4 years. ,continuous emotional support is important, i bought things that he like, comic books etc etc, make him feel normal
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Agreed on this, mental support is very important.
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post Nov 19 2016, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(chinti @ Nov 15 2016, 08:45 PM)
hey guys, my cousin form 4 attempted suicide just now. her mom saw her almost hang herself inside her room, previously she has been cutting herself d. need help looking for good psychiatrist in KL. thanks
she has been diagnosed wit cancer previously so not sure is tht the cause of it or not, or whether isit school bullies. her parents will b heading to school to talk to the teacher tmr.]

edit: lucifar please move this to serious kopitiam
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post Nov 20 2016, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Nov 18 2016, 04:33 PM)
cancer stage berapa?
stage 3 kasi makan saja apa die mau
end up mati juga
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stage 4 even got hope to be healed. look lance armstrong
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post Nov 20 2016, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(leekangtao @ Nov 20 2016, 02:14 AM)
stage 4 even got hope to be healed. look lance armstrong
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depends on the type of cancer?
dia kena cancer apa?

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post Nov 20 2016, 03:30 PM

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so TS when you want to intro your cousin to me? hmm.gif

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