Sega is releasing Virtua Tennis 3 XBox 360 in 1080p. EA will be releasing NBA Street Homecourt also in 1080p. On DVD! Are there any PS3 1080p games out there?


http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/2/8/6956

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1080p is the resolution of the gods. Promised by Sony, attainable by few displays, and argued about all over the Internet, 1080p is something that doesn't affect many television owners while remaining a major sticking point in the current console wars. Microsoft gave the 360 the ability to run games in 1080p in the October firmware update, and frankly I never thought we'd see many games support it. Then of course Sega announced that Virtua Tennis would support 1080p on the 360, and now EA is on the bandwagon, saying that its game is also going to support the hallowed resolution:

Following yesterday's news that Sega's March 20 release of Virtua Tennis 3 would herald the first Xbox 360 game to feature native 1080p support, a representative from Electronic Arts has revealed to Gamasutra that its upcoming NBA Street Homecourt, shipping a month earlier on February 20, will also support the high end resolution on Xbox 360...

The fourth game in the EA's fast action basketball series, and the first for a next-gen console, NBA Street Homecourt will support multiple resolutions, including 16:9 1080p at 30fps, according to further information from EA representatives.

So there you go. Now we have two games coming out for the 360 that will support 1080p as a resolution. My question would be-outside of the hardcore console fans and bleeding edge consumers-do people really care about 1080p? Does your television support it? My television runs at 720p natively, so this is all academic to me. I like games to be playbe at 1080p, but it's not that much of a sticking point for me. Does it influence your buying decisions? Will you be more likely to buy a game with more titles that run in "True HD?"

Old news, and wrong place to post your gloating too. Try the Xbox section.

1080p PS3 games? Try Ridge Racer 7, and the newly released Virtua Fighter 5. You are treading on hot water, friend. Or a slippery slope, take your pick.

BTW, Ridge Racer 7 was 1080, from Day 1, without the need for any superfluous updates that the 360 needs to go 1080p. You didnt hear the Sony folks making a big fuss about that like you did here now, do you?

1080p games only NOW? Pffffttt, the PS3 had them since launch. Get with the program! Or get updated at the very least!

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Feb 9 2007, 03:35 AM

oh i didnt know .. not much of a PS3 fan ... its still fun to see 1080p games on dvd instead of the Blu-ray's 50GB storage disks though

Onward with the defense brigade! The house is still burning down though! Careful it's shamefully hot!

I could go on XNA, be an independent dev. and develop my version of Table Tennis/Pong with the XNA license and develop it at 1080p native, and release it on DVDs for 360. Would that make me your hero? It's fun isnt it? God, i have tears rolling down my cheeks now!

good that my posts are cheering people up

Have you even heard of the concept where games are developed 720p native and the game devs uses the hardware internal scalers to enable other resolutions for the game, and slap it as 1080p enabled?? Big deal if it goes 1080p now, if it goes by that trick! God, you're dense!

XNA is really that good. Good luck trying to be an independent dev for the PS3.

Well if you cant put out the fire, deflect the fire! Put on your firemen suit yet, it's 5000 degrees out there!

i am not trained in fire fighting.

I didn't even realize there was a fire. Calm down. I was only agreeing with what you said.

Sony instilled siege mentality is working on its loyal consumers .

Is there a feature in LYN forums that you can SAVE a thread for later references? I'd PAY Se7en RM100 on the spot for that feature right now!

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Added on February 9, 2007, 4:15 amDEflect, deflect! There are still embers within the dying inferno!

Zen is what the thread like until the other camp sieged it with its rather klutzy targeting mechanism. Dont blame the other party when you started the fire first, and end up burning you own house!

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Feb 9 2007, 04:15 AM

Please contact the forum admin for that.

I think i will, in the mean time, this thread is immortalized......not for the reasons one can be proud of, mind you.

okay .. ..

And oh, no hard feelings yeah, dont shoot the messenger.

nope - this is a forum.

Glad we had that out of our system. Out of my system too, i never had laughed that hard my entire life!

glad to hear that

wut is it all about? i lost after 3 - 4 post

Our threadstarter was getting overzealous about his crusade to downplay Bluray, and apparently an article caught his eye. An article about how 1080p games are now available for Xbox 360, and cheekily(or rather stupidly) asking if there are 1080p games on Bluray/PS3. Little did he know that the PS3 has been doing that since DAY 1 for games like Ridge Racer 7! The rest are his futile attempt at dousing the flames of his own homemade fire. Simply put, PWNED!

He simply thinks that the same rules on movies (1080p on Bluray/HD-DVD) also applies when it comes to console games. Little that he know that 1080p on consoles has nothing to do with storage media, be it DVD, Bluray or HD-DVD, but it is a function of what the console can output. So, his stupid attempt to downplay Bluray this way, quickly and immediately , brought him this "virtual shame". This only way out of this was to try and make do with what he can and make light out of the situation by turning it into a comedy of sorts. Which does not negate the fact that his overzealousness to downplay and make Bluray look bad, had instead made him look like an idiot himself!

I think that sums it up pretty nicely.

hmmm, tat sounded harsh
why make a mountain out of it?
cool it la

Your points are well made String but p'has too harsh on threadstarter

Idiocy and stupidity are blessings in disguise!

dun worry people .. i dont mind.

This post has been edited by g5sim: Feb 10 2007, 03:11 AM

You will see my points are justified once you see his enthusiasm to put down bluray every single chance he has, and overglorifying his HD-DVD God, all this while.....guess what? He does not even have the hardware in which his "glorious" format runs upon, to draw conclusions from. All his opinions are from forum posts, articles and similar conjectures. Wouldnt it be better to have seen both formats running before your eyes, and then draw your conclusions, than going by teh intarweb speak and talk? That's biasness at its best, IMO.

curious about HDMI..

1080p HDMI and non HDMI,would there be any noticeable difference?
(are HD DVD's played on the 360 in 1080p? )

They are 1080p but in analog, Bluray on PS3 via HDMI is digital. Some say there is little to no differences, but on larger screen with capable players, the differences are apparent.

In essence, you can go 1080p via component or HDMI, these connections just means that you are delivering the content digitally or analog.

on your screen?
notice any difference?

dont tell me sony added HDMI to the ps3,when there is little to no difference to the overall quality?

On a 40 inch screen, it should be negligible. I can only get 1080i on mine on component, the Bravia X only allows 1080p via HDMI.

HDMI is not just about Image Quality (IQ), it is also about ease of installation, HMDI carries both the audio and video data through a single connection, so you dont have maggi-mee-like setup, with component wires running to your TV and optical cable running to your receiver, a single HDMI cable does that neatly.

alright..thanks for the info

Hmmm, I really don't think the quality of games are about the formats but the quality of the developer, personally i'm totally against fanboyism in any format (which is really equal to dissing something else with totally no understanding of it)..

I shall not make any judgements on any fanboyism up here


and about movies on either format, I really think it depends on the codec you are using... as an example, Phantom of the Opera looked great on bluray but xmen iii looked a bit grainy.. but so far my list goes at 4 movies for bluray and 2 for hd-dvd (bluray currently has a few more titles that i like)

so yeah i think both formats have a chance to make it and all we can do is wait and see

This post has been edited by tnsai: Feb 10 2007, 06:30 PM

its good when it comes to marketing against the HDMIless XBox 360 .. see the reason now?

almost everyone is b****ing about the ps3's price tag..

just including HDMI to make it(the ps3) seem "grand" would mean next to nothing for most gamers out there,who probably dont even have a 1080p tv to begin with!

surely it must have a purpose* other than to make the ps3 seem more "HD"

*as explained by string above

so do all display with HDMI let consumers channel both picture and audio via a HDMI cable ?

and one EXTREMELY STUPID question. Why would consumers who are rich enough to get PS3 channel their 5.1-7.1 LOSSLESS PCM soundtracks to their display speakers ?

now you know why HDMI is added to PS3 ?

This post has been edited by g5sim: Feb 11 2007, 02:43 AM

you assume that everyone who can afford a ps3 can afford a bravia x.
which is wrong.

just because you can afford a ps3 (which is only RM3000 at MOST) doesnt mean you can afford a RM50K TV SET!

i meant .. as String put it, HDMI is included in PS3 to make it convenient for people to channel both Sound and Picture in one cable. My question was, why channel the next generation lossless 5.1 soundtrack in Blu-ray to 2.0 20RMS watt built in speakers on display sets. it doesnt make sense is it. So the intention of the inclusion of the HDMI is not for the convenience of Audio/Video in one cable. There must be other intention for that

duh! u can pass-thru the hdmi cable thru an audio receiver/decoder with hdmi then to the TV.

so PS3 -(HDMI A/V)- receiver----- TV. A HDMI receiver nevertheless .. How do one do that, all this while --- i see one input for one source. Can some please enlighten us on displays/receivers that are capable to separating the audio/video source from one input simultanously and output the audio/video separately ?

Uhmmm i think if you bother to do a google, you'll find stuff that does what redbull said...

perhaps you should start looking for electronic items "outside" of Best or SenQ

WTF! You call yourself an AV enthusiast and you dont even know about HDMI passthrough? Get out more, visit more AV stores and look at their offerings, rather than spewing your HDDVD prophetic agenda , holding faith blindly on things you hardly have any grasp on. Can this joke character get any more pathetic? There is no big enough ROLLEYES emoticon for you, buddy.

Yo mate you r so screwed. I do not have any words to describe your idiocracy on this matter. Google it, or go through Wikepedia, at least enlighten yourself before putting out such statements.

actually if he cannot see how audio and video are output separately from a hdmi cable... then i think he fails to understand how any audio/video equipment will work.. so by your understanding, you think that the LCD panel of the tv is also the speaker?

hahahaha good one tnsai

sorry but i just have to spam

chill out guys....saw the flame getting bigger and bigger.

we are here for discussion.

yes .. buy PS3 ... buy a receiver with HDMI to get the video/audio separated. Without the Receiver.

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Added on February 12, 2007, 5:44 amyou are saying consumers have to buy a HDMI receiver just to for their PS3. What else that consumers need to purchase to enjoy the full potential of PS3. A 1080p display, a HDMI receiver .. both are produced by Sony ..

This post has been edited by g5sim: Feb 12 2007, 05:44 AM

Same case with the other HD players. You can connect the XA2 to a crappy 14incher on 480i, and have sound coming out from the TV speakers, or use HDMI for the same thing you need with the PS3. What's your point? Idiotic response. And hate to break this to you, but HDMI receivers are not Sony's forte, be a alittle well-informed on that before you make a fool of yourself again.

So , to enjoy the PS3, u say consumer needs to get a 1080p capable HDTV and an HDMI receiver to fully enjoy it. Does your godlike HDDVD players require any less to fully enjoy them too?

For the record, quite a few of us here, especially those who had come to the HDDVD/Bluray playtest have witness both formats firsthand, and able to articulate and opiniate ourselves which format we prefer. Believe it or not, a lot of us prefer the interactivity aspect of HDDVD, but a lot liked Bluray for its own strengths as well. That was what the consensus at that playtest. I BELIEVE YOU, G5SIM ARE ONLY SPEWING YOUR PREACHINGS HERE WITHOUT EVEN HAVING WITNESSED BOTH FORMATS IN ACTION, BUT RATHER GOING ON CONJECTURES AND PERSONAL BIAS. That alone, says a lot about your standings in all this.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Feb 12 2007, 06:26 AM

I am sorry but isn't that how all equipment handle audio? I mean if you want to get 5.1 sound out of the 360 you can't very well use the two redandwhite composite cables right?

u'd need to run the optical cable out to the 5.1 amplifier and it will do the 5.1 channel sound FROM a single cable for you right?

samething for HDMI.. just that this cable has a higher bandwidth.. and it can carry video and audio out..

HDMI signal(audio video)---> receiver --- 1) Video to TV
2) audio to whatever

and how is it different to current systems?

Component -----> receiver ----> 1) Video to TV
Optical Cable 2) audio to whatever


quite simply though PS3 has the option to output via OTHER audio channels.. you can configure it in the options to output via optical
is that what you are complaining about?

believe what you want -- i believe there is a guy with slight long hair and wearing glasses at MediaPlex. Serenity looked good on Toshiba displays. Oh mediaplex is not the only one that has blu-ray player - actually their BD player is not the console as MediaPlex is displaying ... And oh the Pioneer Elite BD player looked AWESOME on its own Plasma display

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Added on February 12, 2007, 11:35 amalmost hundred 100% receivers can accept Optical toslink or coaxial ... you dont need to buy a HDMI receiver to use it. BtW that is not the point - PS3 also has toslink output -- the point is HDMI is merely a marketing point over the HDMIless XBox 360. The point was deliberately taken out of context by some posters. They claimed that the inclusion of the inclusion of HDMI is for convenient of having 2+1 signals in one cable. I said to get that, consumers would have to fork out few more grand to get a HDMI receiver. No spin can change that fact

This post has been edited by g5sim: Feb 12 2007, 11:35 AM