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post Feb 8 2007, 11:46 AM, updated 19y ago

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my dad bought a honda accord in 2004 and now it has been having a gearbox problem....till yesterday it just died(as in it doesnt move even if u floored the gas) up hill......so there are two choices for him to take...and he decided that he will get a recon gearbox for like RM4K to be installed today.......and it wont even last very long(dats wat he says though). A new gearbox would cost like RM21k..

the lesson learnt here is that Honda Cars stink......and it wont stink anymore if they extended the gearbox warranty to like wat 10 years....So DO NOT i repeat DO NOT buy honda cars.........

i would recommed a nissan bcoz it has a murrano....very beaituful....and my dream car for now...
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post Feb 8 2007, 11:48 AM

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Well in the first place did your dad service the gearbox properly chaning oils as recommended in the manual and not drive it like a manual shifting between 1/2/3/4 like a manuial
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post Feb 8 2007, 11:54 AM

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ya, as rcracer said, self evaluation first before blaming honda...


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post Feb 8 2007, 03:21 PM

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if u say recon 4 K n ori 21k it expensive maaa... why didnt search at half cut???? smile.gif
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QUOTE(brian12988 @ Feb 8 2007, 11:46 AM)
my dad bought a honda accord in 2004 and now it has been having a gearbox problem....till yesterday it just died(as in it doesnt move even if u floored the gas) up hill......so there are two choices for him to take...and he decided that he will get a recon gearbox for like RM4K  to be installed today.......and it wont even last very long(dats wat he says though). A new gearbox would cost like RM21k..

the lesson learnt here is that Honda Cars stink......and it wont stink anymore  if they extended the gearbox warranty to like wat 10 years....So DO NOT i repeat DO NOT buy honda cars.........

i would recommed a nissan bcoz it has a murrano....very beaituful....and my dream car for now...
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err.....honda year 2004 or older year but bought in 2004?

oil change done correctly as per the manual (every 20000km if i am not mistaken)???
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post Feb 8 2007, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(brian12988 @ Feb 8 2007, 11:46 AM)
my dad bought a honda accord in 2004 and now it has been having a gearbox problem....till yesterday it just died(as in it doesnt move even if u floored the gas) up hill......so there are two choices for him to take...and he decided that he will get a recon gearbox for like RM4K  to be installed today.......and it wont even last very long(dats wat he says though). A new gearbox would cost like RM21k..

the lesson learnt here is that Honda Cars stink......and it wont stink anymore  if they extended the gearbox warranty to like wat 10 years....So DO NOT i repeat DO NOT buy honda cars.........

i would recommed a nissan bcoz it has a murrano....very beaituful....and my dream car for now...
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It's either your dad did not service it or drove like a mad man. Choose one. smile.gif
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post Feb 8 2007, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(pillage2001 @ Feb 8 2007, 03:45 PM)
It's either your dad did not service it or drove like a mad man. Choose one. smile.gif
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post Feb 8 2007, 04:58 PM

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Oh yeah, my house has two accords so I can tell you that if the cars are maintained carefully, the only thing you need to worry is about handling the car when VTEC is engaged.
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post Feb 8 2007, 05:14 PM

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i dont think is honda car problem.. if like that sure can see everywhere on internet that ppl flame the company and accord is one of their flagship model. I think is lack of maintain by ur dad, or the gearbox is faulty?
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QUOTE(pillage2001 @ Feb 8 2007, 04:58 PM)
Oh yeah, my house has two accords so I can tell you that if the cars are maintained carefully, the only thing you need to worry is about handling the car when VTEC is engaged.
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Accord's vtec so power meH? LIke not verli strong la the pull..
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Send to MS in Batu Caves for major overhaul. I did mine for RM 5k with race-specific components and modded the torque converter for extra 30% power on 3rd gear.
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post Feb 8 2007, 08:08 PM

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im using the same car, and no problem whatsoever. ur dad's Accord extended 3 years warranty no more leh? last time my radio rosak, signal relayer rosak, speaker pecah rosak, all change FOC. and before you go "wallane, so many rosak!", all the rosak is my fault one. you knowlar, radio blast to da max blush.gif
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post Feb 8 2007, 08:31 PM

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VTEC hard to handle ? come on , u think it is a turbo ?
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post Feb 8 2007, 09:30 PM

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haha... a GSR 1.8T much more hard to handle than a 2.2 H22A ...... vtec pull not so strong....
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post Feb 8 2007, 10:41 PM

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lol....of coz got change oil lah...free wan mah........but still die leh...and no my dad does not drive like a mad man.....sure got maintain wan...i only knw it was bought in 2004 or sumthing so warranty habis.....
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QUOTE(brian12988 @ Feb 8 2007, 10:41 PM)
lol....of coz got change oil lah...free wan mah........but still die leh...and no my dad does not drive like a mad man.....sure got maintain wan...i only knw it was bought in 2004 or sumthing so warranty habis.....
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wah...then wasted lah....nice car but bad gearbox...new one so expensive now....

why no try those expert shop see the gearbox can still be saved or not?
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post Feb 9 2007, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(BridgestoneRE711 @ Feb 8 2007, 08:31 PM)
VTEC hard to handle ? come on , u think it is a turbo ?
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Just exagerrating. He gets the idea. smile.gif
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post Feb 9 2007, 07:34 PM

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so you like nissan because of murano only?
i'm driving an '92 model of accord (SM4), and NO PROBLEM AT ALL
so why are you making a fuss about honda?
hey, dude, my '92 model is 15 years old this year!

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its doenst mean that if YOUR car brokedown bcoz of neglected maintainance or just plain wear n tear, that the brand is .. well.. stinks.. no one thinks like that..

unless of course u're a 12 y/o.. wait, make that 10y/o

fyi, my father own 91' SM4 and currently just change a halfcut engine.. yet the transmission still going strong.
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QUOTE(brian12988 @ Feb 8 2007, 10:41 PM)
lol....of coz got change oil lah...free wan mah........but still die leh...and no my dad does not drive like a mad man.....sure got maintain wan...i only knw it was bought in 2004 or sumthing so warranty habis.....
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Confirm with your dad whether he changes the Engine Oil or Transmission Oil? hmm.gif

I have an Accord too and I was told by the technician that it is quite common to see Honda (especially Civic) with faulty gearbox & engine. The reason is because the way these drivers drive. If you like to play around accelerating with VTEC and overtaking vehicles by shifting your gear, expect your gearbox or engine to wear out soon.

Thanks.

ps: By the way, my friend's 8-months old 328i gearbox spoilt. He admitted that playing around with tiptronic on the highway is the culprit. Fortunately it was replaced for free since the car is still under warranty. So, are you going to say all BMW 3-series out there are lousy and don't buy it?

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QUOTE(brian12988 @ Feb 8 2007, 11:46 AM)
my dad bought a honda accord in 2004 and now it has been having a gearbox problem....till yesterday it just died(as in it doesnt move even if u floored the gas) up hill......so there are two choices for him to take...and he decided that he will get a recon gearbox for like RM4K  to be installed today.......and it wont even last very long(dats wat he says though). A new gearbox would cost like RM21k..

the lesson learnt here is that Honda Cars stink......and it wont stink anymore  if they extended the gearbox warranty to like wat 10 years....So DO NOT i repeat DO NOT buy honda cars.........

i would recommed a nissan bcoz it has a murrano....very beaituful....and my dream car for now...

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First and foremost, did your father ever changed the gearbox oil the moment he bought it ?

I am going to assume that its a used car, and if I were in your father's shoe, I would take it for oil change, straight away.The previous owner most likely did not change the oil. So I doubt your later claims that it had been changed.

Do not straight away generalise that Honda car stinks.It could be your father's fault for not changing the ATF oil at the first time he took the car.

It disgusts me and other proud Honda Owners.
No car manufacturer would ever give you a 10 year warranty (not even on the Gearbox alone), Newbie. Even I doubt Proton's 5 year or 175,000KM warranty. Good sales gimmick, Proton.
Get a (proper) life, Newbie. Your childishness is intolerable.

And oh BTW, your dream Murano, would also break down if you just continue to drive without caring it.
Let us know when you physically bought a Murano. Show us some pictures of you (and your GF,if you have one) with your Murano,and if ever the CVT breakdown, let us know how much it costed you to replace a new one (or a used one).

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QUOTE(brian12988 @ Feb 8 2007, 10:41 PM)
lol....of coz got change oil lah...free wan mah........but still die leh...and no my dad does not drive like a mad man.....sure got maintain wan...i only knw it was bought in 2004 or sumthing so warranty habis.....
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Free oil????????
Are you talking about engine oil or gear box oil?????
For the 40k free service, HM only provide free engine oil and you will have to pay for the gear box oil!!!!
If your SC provides free gear box oil change, pls tell me where and I'll go right now!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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post Feb 10 2007, 01:24 PM

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pisces is right. I've never seen any Honda SC offer free ATF change.
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KNN
nowadays people really too much
free service already, some more want to free oil
please don't simply blame on honda again
end of story
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post Feb 10 2007, 05:52 PM

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if there is free service for the accord and it's bought in 04, the car is most likely bought new, and if it's new, the warranty should still be around (at worst case, about 1 month+ over).
If it's under warranty you can get it replaced for free, if it's past the warranty for 1 month, you can raise the issue to handa malaysia and ask for warranty replacement, most likely they'll honour it but you'll need to pay for labour and fluid.
as for the murano, it cost almost 2x the accord, and since you like it so much, why not ask you father to sell of the accord and get a murano instead (it should give you lifetime problem free motoring, from how you described it to be)

btw, which model/generation is it? is it a 2.0, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4 or 3.0 model with or without VTEC/iVTEC

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i suspect this is a spam thread . the TS just open it to flame honda .
it could be becasue he is a new member and he only posted in this post .
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QUOTE(electron @ Feb 10 2007, 05:52 PM)
if there is free service for the accord and it's bought in 04, the car is most likely bought new, and if it's new, the warranty should still be around (at worst case, about 1 month+ over).
If it's under warranty you can get it replaced for free, if it's past the warranty for 1 month, you can raise the issue to handa malaysia and ask for warranty replacement, most likely they'll honour it but you'll need to pay for labour and fluid.
as for the murano, it cost almost 2x the accord, and since you like it so much, why not ask you father to sell of the accord and get a murano instead (it should give you lifetime problem free motoring, from how you described it to be)

btw, which model/generation is it? is it a 2.0, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4 or 3.0 model with or without VTEC/iVTEC
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from the way he mentions on his first thread, it looks like the previous model of i-VTEC
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QUOTE(electron @ Feb 10 2007, 05:52 PM)
if there is free service for the accord and it's bought in 04, the car is most likely bought new, and if it's new, the warranty should still be around (at worst case, about 1 month+ over).
If it's under warranty you can get it replaced for free, if it's past the warranty for 1 month, you can raise the issue to handa malaysia and ask for warranty replacement, most likely they'll honour it but you'll need to pay for labour and fluid.
as for the murano, it cost almost 2x the accord, and since you like it so much, why not ask you father to sell of the accord and get a murano instead (it should give you lifetime problem free motoring, from how you described it to be)

btw, which model/generation is it? is it a 2.0, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4 or 3.0 model with or without VTEC/iVTEC
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Doesn't really matter which model the father drives. There are only a few problems in honda's transmission in history. The 3.0 V6 in the US ( model 1998- 2002 ) is one I can think of. As for the ones sold in Malaysia, I've not seen any faulty gearbox that has been confirmed by Honda.

I personally drive a 1997 SV4. I shift the gear box alot but also change the ATF alot to make sure it doesn't burn.
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QUOTE(pillage2001 @ Feb 11 2007, 03:12 PM)
Doesn't really matter which model the father drives. There are only a few  problems in honda's transmission in history. The 3.0 V6 in the US ( model 1998- 2002 ) is one I can think of. As for the ones sold in Malaysia, I've not seen any faulty gearbox that has been confirmed by Honda.

I personally drive a 1997 SV4. I shift the gear box alot but also change the ATF alot to make sure it doesn't burn.
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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Feb 11 2007, 11:40 AM)
from the way he mentions on his first thread, it looks like the previous model of i-VTEC
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the next thing you know, he'll tell you his dad's accord is a 3.0 i-vtec.
that's the coolest, biggest, most advanced combination from what i put out mah, although the existence is another story.
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3.0 i-vTEC is cool
V6 + i-VTEC sial
but i'm still wondering why this fellow whine about accord?
hmm
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post Feb 12 2007, 02:48 AM

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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Feb 11 2007, 10:46 PM)
3.0 i-vTEC is cool
V6 + i-VTEC sial
but i'm still wondering why this fellow whine about accord?
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^^ no wonder he whines
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Let me share something informatic with you,actually the model u talking about is the Accord 2.0 VTEC Year 2000 right with F20A engine..
ok here's what happen..last 2year my father's car transmission have slipping problem(when gear is engage,u press the accelerator the car just like revving without moving much) this is what happen,the clutch in the gear box has worn not just that but something leathery(i dunno what is that call) else..reason is because the Automatic transmission is not maintain well and high revving always..by spec should be 20k km change once..

when the oil is being flush..the smell is so bad like burn things..the oil is darn dark in colour wherelese the new one is something pinkish..

and also the mechanic add in..he say this honda model batch has alot of problem for its gear box,not so lasting..many ppl complaining about it,this is why its price drop so fast for its 2nd hand car,i mean cheap(last year or last two years the price is 80k now is around 40k+ only)..and not just about its maintanance is part of the company fault oso because the gear box isnt mated so well..

so my dad did the same,Rm4k recon gear box masuk..till now still ok but still got some slip sometime but very rare..

last word..must change the ATF every 20k km!!! to prevent that from happen..because till now my dad still did not change till pass 2days which i took it for a change..is like over 10k km already =.= part of the wrong is to blame that particular honda service center for not telling my dad to change

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