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Sony Sony Xperia XZ -- Discussion V2, The Best Camera Technology on Smartphone

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post Jul 18 2017, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(i_bony @ Jul 18 2017, 07:44 AM)
Already turned off the Google apps, phone got smooth only for a few hours.
Can't last for a day.

Now i need to restart my phone for every few hours. sad.gif
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Same. My phone super lag again after 12 hours. Turn off Google app just slower the memory consuming, the main culprit still probably is memory leak.
When the time super lag, i check the ram usage again. It has 0 free ram, and system won't release free ram again.
I restart the phone, and system slowly release the ram. Around 10mb ram per secs, until the usage drop to 1.7gb ram again. Phone is super smooth again, and the ram is slowly go up again.

During the event of super lag.

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post Jul 18 2017, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(KayK @ Jul 18 2017, 09:12 AM)
did you tap into the details and see which app using the most RAM for the pass 3 hours?
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Always is android os 1.2gb.
But currently main issue is 0 free ram. Android won't suck all the ram till 0. The memory management fail to work.
When my phone has 10% free ram. The phone always stable and smooth.
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post Jul 20 2017, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(KayK @ Jul 20 2017, 09:26 AM)
it happen to me this morning.
The previous night i was switching between whatsapp, youtube, FB and insta before sleeping.
Then in the morning when i want to charge, it was super slow.
Check the memory and the available RAM is just 30MB.
I got a feeling that the RAM is not being released although all the apps are closed.
If i didnt do heavy switching between app, all seems ok.
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i thought XZ and XZs is the same hardware except for the camera.
did you encounter the lag after medium to heavy multitasking?
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The lag made it to Taiwan headlines lol. Some sleeping CS still asking you format and reinstall the phone. Obviously it is a serious issue, but some still treat it as individual case.

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post Jul 21 2017, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(KayK @ Jul 20 2017, 09:37 PM)
well i do hope they will look into it.
almost every night i will switch between multiple social apps before sleeping, if every morning also like this morning  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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After disable google app, i disable movie creator too. Performance is better again but not sure how long it can go.

Using a flagship phone, like being used by the phone.

BTW, the lag issue is heating in XDA forum too. But still no response from sony.
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post Jul 23 2017, 10:09 AM

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After disable movie creator, 30 hours of using and without a restart, the phone is still smooth. No more weird and random lag, and phone heat without a reason.
So far, everything is back to normal for my case. And first time, i can say the XZ is faster and smoother than my old Z3.

Ram usage stay at 2.5gb, and free ram always 10-20%. No more suck ram under 50mb free ram.

So far, i am satisfying this time.
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post Jul 23 2017, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jul 23 2017, 10:16 AM)
The phone wouldn't lag even the ram usage hit 80-90%? That's amazing . My old Lenovo already lag when the ram usage hit 80-90%...
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As i say before, Android is not Windows. Android keep cache in ram, for faster response and battery saver.
Android is controlled by memory management.
Of course, sometimes when heavy tasking, it will delayed few secs because the system is clearing unused ram. It is normal.

Try do not clear ram, and turn off smart cleaner. You will feel the different.
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post Jul 26 2017, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jul 26 2017, 09:00 PM)
Does Xperia xz support volte? I tried with my digi simcard, there's no volte. Or it depends on the area?
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Hardware support, software support, but setting not support with our carrier.
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post Jul 27 2017, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jul 26 2017, 10:59 PM)
do you mean there's no support from all local telcos for xperia xz yet ?  :confused:
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So far yes. Basically i used all telco except webe in my phone.

BTW, after disabled movie creator, my phone no longer happen some serious lag. But the phone is only smooth for 3 days. The 4-5 days, the phone is started for some slowness, switching app need somentimes to redraw.
Stability still not really match with my z3, even 15 days+ without restart.

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post Jul 27 2017, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jul 27 2017, 08:11 AM)
Actually I don't mind the phone starts to lag after few days. Just restart the phone will solve the problem? I will turn off my phone when I sleep at night. Haha. So, switch off the phone when u are not using it, why not?
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Restart few days is not a problem, and also reasonable for me. But my logic is, a new upgrade should better than before. If not then this is a downgrade. Why i have to spend almost 3k to buy a worse phone than before >.>
I am 13 years of sony (ericsson) user and fans. First time feel regret to buy sony phone.
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post Jul 27 2017, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jul 27 2017, 09:58 AM)
Why leh ? Why dont sony release the sofware to enable volte ? Xperia xz is released almost 1 year already , right ?  confused.gif
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Our hardware & software support voLTE. But the setting is not. Inside the system, there are some .mdn files, it is the modem config file. Our carrier/telco is not yet pushing this config file to OEM/phone maker. So our phone won't able to connect voLTE. If your phone has root, i know how to switch the modem file. You can try to switch it to some universal / nearest telco setting to enable it, but no guarantee.

Below is the example, you can see the config file name as singtel, this is why singtel able to use voLTE with XZ.

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post Aug 9 2017, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Aug 9 2017, 09:41 AM)
http://www.xperiablog.net/2017/08/08/xperi...medium=facebook

August security patch is up. Malaysia should take a few days...
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It is up now.
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post Aug 9 2017, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Aug 9 2017, 08:50 PM)
Yep, just noticed it around noon. Their servers are getting efficient nowadays.
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Zram is back, and lower ram consumption. Hopefully it solves the lag issue permanently.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Aug 9 2017, 10:17 PM)
Noticed that too. The RAM usage reduced drastically compared to before. Gonna test it for few more days and keep the fingers crossed.
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The ram usage is same as previous nougat version. But the smoothness is there like android 6.
I guess the ram management is fixed. I love this feeling now because it match with my z3 finally.


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post Sep 17 2017, 10:53 AM

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Is it our XZ already discontinued product lol?
Do not see it on the latest sony brochure anymore.
So sick with sony 1 year 4 flagship become jump ship.

Will never pre order sony phone again. Rather wait 6 months to outdate and save another rm300-500.
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post Sep 17 2017, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Sep 17 2017, 01:08 PM)
I think they were sold out at Sony Store.
Instead of displaying a sold out phone, they removed it.
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Flagship not even 1 year old.
I disappointed until no feeling already.
Won't buy their latest flagship anymore. Save my wallet better.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 18 2017, 09:14 AM)
Everyone need to progress.

Common business practice is when you have updated models due to be release soon, you clear off the old models and stock. XZ1 is announced and there is XZs that superceeded XZ. It is normal that the year old model getting phased out.
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Z5P and X are still selling.
I know business need to move forward, but too fast. Fast until Sony didn't value their old/loyalty customer.
I don't mind Sony has 100 flagships per year, but it must something like A, B, C, D or E. Not A1, A2, A3, A4, and A5 in a very short period.
Just like you bought a new Honda City 1.5, two months later, if Honda release new Civic, i guess you won't feel pissed. Because it is not a same segment to compare. But if Honda release a new City 1.8 in 2 months, and only RM2000 more expensive, i guess you will. And worse, they stop selling the 1.5 version and gave RM5000 discount.

QUOTE(Michael_Lee @ Sep 18 2017, 04:50 PM)
As long as you're happy with the specification you like, why even bother those "flagship" thingy?  hmm.gif
I'm a XZ user also happy with mine so far even XZ1 has been released. Now waiting for Android O update.  brows.gif
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Of course, i am happy with XZ. But flagship should be premium.
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post Oct 18 2017, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(cheikwei89 @ Oct 18 2017, 05:17 PM)
is good to buy the phone now, DIRECTD selling RM1399 Free shipping and it's ori Msia set
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Yup, i bought another one for my gf. RM1650 + 2y extended warranty.
Super valued flagship price lol.
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QUOTE(cheikwei89 @ Oct 18 2017, 08:35 PM)
superb duper value....original set  cool2.gif
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Maybe sony want to clear remain stock only.
Its direct successor xzs & xz1 kill it, not to mention its premium series xzp & rumour coming xz1p.
If sony don't stop half year cycle + 1 year 4 flagships method, this history will happen again.
No point buying latest flagship since it has 50% discount after 1 year.
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Oct 19 2017, 02:00 PM)
1.8-1.9k is still acceptable , 1.3k be like  doh.gif for those early adpoter
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RRP now is 1899.
Probably Sony / distributor want to clean the stock, since Directd is one of the biggest seller, they can offered a very competitive price.
For my opinion, XZ/XZs is a very failed project after Xperia S/SL. Both projects were sharing the same design, probably 98% same thing, except some small hardware/chipset.
The 2% different made no advantage for Sony to sell it at higher price, only able to replace its predecessor. It is just embarrassing.
If i were Sony, i definitely won't allow this happen. I will either keep XZs technology (small motion camera) to next generation. So the XZ1 can sell at RM2899 while outdated XZ can stay at RM2000-2300.
Or i will discontinued the XZ, and totally replaced by XZs. And not to pissed the customers, i will allow all XZ users exchange their phone to XZs for free, or a very minimal cost like RM100~ for transporting/handling fee.
Wasting resources to develop XZs, i rather save the cost, and release some special edition XZ, like more colours of choices. Just like many of us choosing XZ because the special forest blue colour.
But what did Sony do now, is pissing their loyalty customers. Sony (Ericsson) was the top brands, but now not even in top 10 list to compete with some chinese OEM. Sony is not able to compete with other in price and spec. They have a niche market, which mainly loyal customers and supporter who loves Sony unique trademark & technology. But these actions are blowing away this small group of customers too.
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post Oct 19 2017, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Oct 19 2017, 06:15 PM)
Haha, I quite agree with you. I am using xzs  now, bought in end of June at rm2577. Actually I don't think xzs worth that price.. But eventually I chose it, haha. At that time xz premium is still rm3399, I can't afford it. So I have no choice, but to take xzs...
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1399, i didn't think much and bought it.
I was thinking to buy xzs for my gf, but no point to pay rm1000 for extra 1gb ram + better camera.
Luckily i didn't buy last weekend, if not i really pissed again.

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