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Sony Sony Xperia XZ -- Discussion V2, The Best Camera Technology on Smartphone

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post Nov 11 2016, 09:29 PM

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Probably dirty cow.
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post Nov 17 2016, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Nov 17 2016, 10:11 AM)
Forest Blue. smile.gif
But the rest of the colors ain't bad either. I personally liked Titanium Silver but Forest Blue caught my attention even more.
Nope, Z3 is the loudest and has the best sound quality.
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I feel the pink colour is the prettiest one. Although not suit me lol.
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post Nov 30 2016, 04:20 PM

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X performance has nougat now. Soon for xz.
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post Jan 2 2017, 12:39 PM

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I found my phone getting lag, and very lag after updated to nougat. Compared to my old Z3, it used to have 2x benchmark. But the reality is, the z3 is 2x faster and responsive than my xz now.

Then i start to find the reason, and i found it now.
I used few hardware tools and benchmark apps.
I found Sony disable 2 CPU in nougat.
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And the benchmark drop, at least 40% than 6.0
It used to have 120k+ marks.
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A restart make it goes to 110k, but still under performance.

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post Jan 2 2017, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jan 2 2017, 06:11 PM)
Nope it's normal when phone is idle it just use 2 core to run. When you touch it or open intensive apps it will auto on the core.. the lag might be caused by the major upgrade from 6 to 7.. just try to perform software repair through PC and observe again.. all your data will be lost, make sure backup everything to your Google email first..
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Idle won't hide CPU info. It probably bugs either the system hide it or it is totally disabled.
I saw the XDA and few users reported similar issue.
I am thinking to downgrade to marshmallow.
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post Jan 2 2017, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jan 2 2017, 08:27 PM)
My friend that using xz said android 7 is more power efficient.. he can get 5 hours of sot easily. Since you going to downgrade, why don't try to perform software repair and see..

My friends don't install those benchmark apps and CPU z so I can't compare directly.. most CPU will be sleep while not using..
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I updated the latest nougat, it solved the problem. But i will see how is the performance in long term.

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post Jan 4 2017, 12:30 AM

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After update, my friend said the pokemon go graphic is much smoother. Seem like the vulkan is running now.
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post Jan 4 2017, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(alifsaduri @ Jan 4 2017, 11:36 AM)
Eh.. I saw someone who report the phone only activate 2 core cpu after update to nougat..

Yesterday i test on cpu z also see same thing. Only 2 cpu running..  Is it how the system should work.. Erm.
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No it should not. My friend 1+3 do not work that way.
This should be either bug of having problem to display sleeping cpu, or the cpu really sleep and didn't wake up.

And from my experience, doing benchmark, the mark is getting higher after few tests.
But after nougat update, i found it getting lower marks. Seem like the cpu went sleeping and won't wake.
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post Jan 4 2017, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(KayK @ Jan 4 2017, 01:34 PM)
if you guys ran antutu info tab, you can also see that core 2 and 3 is "sleeping".
heck, even antutu saying the rear camera is only 8.3MP while all this while i set it to 23MP.

as for the benchmark score, are you running the benchmark in similar condition?
i ran once in normal room temperature then ran another time with the phone in front of the car air con.
the score 120000++ vs 137000++
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Do you mean this?
If you read my previous post, i meant that the CPU will goes sleep and never wake up for either bug of showing wrong detail, or the cpu really didn't wake up.
Of course the benchmark are tested under similar situation for fair result.
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post Jan 7 2017, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jan 6 2017, 09:54 PM)
Not sure any third party converter to type c can perform the same performance like original type c cable or not..
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I am using Huawei and Remax convertor + original Sony cable. All of them are just the same.
Anyway, only high amp need use thicker cable, but Sony limits the phone to 9V 1.5A, so basically any cable/convertor will do.
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post Jan 11 2017, 06:55 AM

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QUOTE(alifsaduri @ Jan 10 2017, 08:01 PM)
Any of u already run on custom rom for f8332 model?
Can share some experience..  The developmet at xda look so slow..  Hu.. I wonder how can i remove bloatware apps if possible without use custom..
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There is some way to remove bloatware for 6.0 with dirty cow. 7.0+ is no, and latest dec security alr fixed the dirty cow.
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post Jan 14 2017, 09:58 AM

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So pretty the devil case. How much you guys bought for it?
I look the website it needs about rm230 to send back here.
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post Jan 19 2017, 07:13 PM

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New security patch update is released. Probably fix some other small bugs.
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post Feb 27 2017, 08:33 PM

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Sony promise 1 year 1 flagship. Seem like they never change, still 1 year 4 flagship.
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post Feb 28 2017, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Feb 27 2017, 09:58 PM)
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Just within 2years time, Z5 & Z5P, X & XP, XZ, now XZs & XZP.
(Some maybe will argue that only the premium version is the flagship, but i don't agree that because a similar high end spec, with different screen actually are both flagship. Just like consider only IP7+ is only flagship but not IP7 or only galaxy note not galaxy s.)
I feel Sony strategy is stupid, its products do not fight its competitors, but itself. Who still buying their XZ now which is only 4months old unless the price is quite different (it cuts its own price). It doesn't honor their customers but embarrassing them by outdating their phone in 4 months.
I think they focus on a cybershot and a walkman series will help them grab back the market share, at least it won't fighting itself.
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post Feb 28 2017, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Feb 28 2017, 09:06 AM)
Honestly I do not believe the theory of One Model to rule all. There are technically 4 different range in the market:
Compact (<5"), Standard (5-5.3"), Phablet (5.4-5.7") aka Premium Series, Tab (5.8"+) aka Ultra Series. There is nothing wrong of giving 4 top of the spec devices every year.

And, due to the nature of product development, you won't release all models in one shot as this would give problem to the entire development/production/marketing/sales.

XZs is a facelift of XZ similiar to what the Apple way of saying IP6 to IP6s. I think now is either you wait for the XZ price to come down (they surely need to clear off the old stock), or wait a bit more to get the XZs.

Range Compact Standard Phablet Tab
Flagship (Missing XZ Compact) XZ (XZs) XZ Premium (Missing XZ Ultra)
Mid-range X Compact X X Premium (Cancelled) (X Ultra)
Entry (XA Compact) XA (XA Premium) XA Ultra
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I agree that one model won't rule all. But not killing its own product just 4 months old. Apple release S version after 1 year. Sony didn't announce XP was a flagship, but the specs was the highest during that time. It should not be a mid-range. For the previous version, it is not so "hurt" because it still consider an upgrade, like Z1 to Z2 to Z3.... But this time, XZ to XZs is an facelift lol.
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post Mar 15 2017, 08:58 PM

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Up with latest March security patch.
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post Apr 25 2017, 08:14 PM

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My Z3 was sent to warranty during update.
Today also sent my XZ to warranty >.>
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post Apr 25 2017, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Apr 25 2017, 08:26 PM)
what's up with your XZ? confused.gif
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6 pins of the usb type c broken and stuck inside the port.
Now the phone only can charge with that broken cable. Normal cable cannot plug anymore.

Type C so fragile.

BTW, Ixsun or SEMS better?

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post Apr 25 2017, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Apr 25 2017, 08:37 PM)
i pity you. sad.gif

this is why i always align the cable before inserting and make sure no objects between the port and cable.

EDIT : Ixsun seems to be quite efficient nowadays. a customer feedback that he got his phone 10 days after sending in.
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SEMS can repair waterproof phone in Ipoh, while Ixsun must send back KL.
Ixsun told me they need 2 weeks, SEMS said 2 days to check, and 1 week to repair.

I took decision to send SEMS, but i had bad experience with them before.

Hope this time is good decision.

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