Saga VVT 1.3 CVT Premium Fire Red

Review after driving it for 1000 km around Malaysia

Cons
-Brake pedal too high for my liking
-No mist function in wiper setting
-No auto down power window for driver side
-Will get you into trouble with speedtrap and AES because you don't even realize you had go above the speed limit.
-Clutch based cvt made the car jerked when moving from stop position.
-Seat belt warning goes off if you unbuckle the seat belt even the car is not moving.
-Factory wiper isn't clear water completely, please change to the Silicon type.

Will update later if I find another one.

Pros
+Ride and Handling, it's balance between those two.
+Steering feedback is very direct.
+Can easily go up to 140km/h in a short distance, I reached that speed in small town road at 3am.
+Chassis felt stiff and planted on the road, Saga is a fun car to drive in the twisty.
+Factory strut bar helps in high speed cornering and minimizing chassis flex. I once go up to 120 km/h while taking a corner without realizing it.
+ - Air con is too cold
+the CVT felt smoother than conventional automatic, better that the older punch CVT, and I love it. You guys should try CVT in Saga vvt and Persona vvt.
+More confidence when overtaking because it just accelerate when I step on the throttle, no more downshift like conventional auto
+Didn't felt underpowered, just put it in L the rpm will go above 3k and can effortlessly climb Janda Baik hill (KLK) and the hill before Menora tunnel
+NVH are the best on a car with this price.
+When it's raining only the sound of rain droplets hitting the windshield and the sound of the wipers.
+Sound System are better from the Japanese car (CARETA journalist also said this). The bass can shake the car.
+Rear fog light is useful in a very bad weather, for example very heavy rain in east coast
+No more accidentally left the fog lights on because the switch will cancel itself if you turn off the headlights.
+Fuel efficiency gets better after 5000km.
+Not a single rattle heard even after 8000km.
+Top Speed 170 km/h on LPT
+Full tank can go up to 450km(for long distance)


Defect
-Front left panel clip unattached, from the factory. ( already solved by SC )
-Front left absorber/coil making sound when going through speed bump that's too high. ( Can be replaced at SC under warranty ) (Solved)

Very rare Evo 9 Wagon parked beside my car, only 2500 unit were made.






This post has been edited by Smoochy poohh: May 6 2017, 08:51 PM

SHIT.

Only if this come out earlier.

Looks like a really good car. I'm gonna get one soon

So much positive.

But only after so many years....

And when new engine coming out, same as this. All problem need years to solve...

Cycle rinse and repeat.

Had to take times to review it, to know the car better.

Your saga what specs?

Get the premium one

Thanks for sharing

Premium

oh i thought new saga got iluminate meter like persona sv
btw saga rear use multilink suspension?

Someone bought both of the car, NVH are better in Saga than Persona


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I am owner as well (manual) .

Agree with your pros.

Cons I add on
- for my height 175 cm. No matter how I adjust chair and sterring wheel, it will still block my view of in instrument cluster. Once driving at night dint knew high beam was on because steering block my view of the high beam indicator ==
- should have rear wiper
- my glove box got tikus sound. Must be due to the striker. Will try fix by taping the striker
- for manual. If you have front passenger, while shifting high chance to hit occupants knee while shifting due to smaller interior (understandable due to A class now)

This post has been edited by Imagination *-*: Nov 6 2016, 12:33 PM

Fuuu... Nice..

strut bar is for chassis flex, its good for the car chassis to keep its rigidity after years gone. it does not work like anti roll bar, i believe that is what helped you feel better when cornering. maibee one bar also dun have topkek.

This post has been edited by xxhunter: Nov 6 2016, 04:03 PM

Of course not.

Even the new Persona VVT also use torsion beam je. Old Persona is multilink.

Mist function should be standard

Luckily my height only 173 cm, I had to adjust the seat to be able to see the instrument cluster, but only can see the speedometer, not the high beam indicator.

Good. So now if I see a Saga with foglights on I know they switch it on purposely instead of left on and forgot to switch off.

I can only see 80% of my speedometer. To see fully must duck my head. Not that safe though :/

IINM , around 48k

Hmm.. Good excuse to raba2 awek..

Following this thread as interest me at this moment.

Thanks TS.

Nice car to daily use and cheap. Its getting better. Yes used to test drive it and its comfy compared to old model

Low and high beam has a discernible pattern.. impossible to not notice it..

Not a hatch, no need rear wiper.. the glass is slanted enough to have airflow to help disperse water..

Saga is still using the old platform.. and dimensions dont differ much.. could be classed as A+ or B... True A is bezza...

This post has been edited by khairilyazit: Nov 6 2016, 01:58 PM

always hoping gt illuminated meter cluster like PE

What?

Dekat kaki ada aircond x?

Persona, Iriz, Saga dont have illuminated cluster.. Preve, Suprima, Exora does..

Wrong quote bro.. lol..

Ok jom lets go n buy 2

Didnt work hard enough.

xde, tapi xpe sbab aircond Proton memang sejuk walaupun kereta tu dah 10 tahun.

envy abt the NVH, persona NVH actually nt tat gud

This post has been edited by Chinifity: Nov 6 2016, 02:19 PM

Lol so mean

How's the fc?

Itu antara yg penting if in long distance drive or dlm panas terik lepas berjalan2 kat jln tar 😁

too bad... love the Iriz more than this saga...

ok la if you put it that way for rear wiper then not much of a con la haha.


but the headlamp though, it isnt easy to notice when you are driving around at night when there is city lights.

For pure driving.. i love my Suprima more than my wifey Iriz..
But around town and when relaxing.. the Iriz comes first..


I dont know why proton dont like flash-to-pass and dedicated high beam position for the stalk..

This post has been edited by Imagination *-*: Nov 6 2016, 02:46 PM

work hard or drive a Proton

Tinggi pedal brek tu betul.. Apa la yg susah sgt nak sama kan tinggi pedal minyak dan brek tu? Lenguh kaki woi. Ada siapa2 boleh rekemen workshop yg sudi modified pedal brek tu bg sama level dgn pedal myk,area rawang.. Boleh tlg pm tepi..

Beli gergaji & selotep dekat kedai diy

lol poorfag car with poor safety and handling





This post has been edited by aeonjusco: Nov 6 2016, 03:49 PM

RIP saga 😭

Agree. Work harder and buy a good car like Vios and City, later won't regret.

Damn gua /k level earner oso look forward to test drive this.

Wow wtf is that? 😳

Do u have some pics how it looks??

Is this even better tech than an anti roll bar?

LOL. Toyota Vios accident lagi teruk daripada ni. Harga double dari Saga.

Go google the latest edition of vios.

Chassis flex - deformation of your car body under load, etc. when cornering

Simulation of what happens one you corner to the right, and your car body leans to the left. The white strut bar is saw-ed in half to illustrate that one side of the strut tower has raised due to load on that side.




disclaimer : Not a Ultra Racing salesman

This post has been edited by dares: Nov 6 2016, 03:59 PM

So these strut bar actually helps car cornering stable? No wonder why proton nowdays got these strut bar all models..

Front strut bars (the ones you now see in Poton cars engine bay) generally improve steering response, very little anti-roll effect. If you kaki layan corner, then aftermarket antiroll bars would yield more noticeable effects.

This post has been edited by dares: Nov 6 2016, 04:10 PM

Every car comes with anti roll bar(s). Manufacturer bodo or you?

i dnt know why ppl deemed the seatbelt alarm a cons
wear the seatbelt bi*ch...its the only thing inside the car that will save your life

Myvi ahbeng owner spotted

Or is it bezza owner?
😂😂😂

Fuhhh almost half an inch

Btw on highway few hours ago, coincidentally parked beside new saga..

God-fuxkin-damn-it

The design when see with own eyes...I thought a conti car weh

Rupa rupanya new saga...fukkk lawa gila

Altho kinda puzzled why proton decide to put round rear light at persona butt 😂😂😂

What I meant is the seatbelt warning goes off even the car isn't moving. So I had to wear a seatbelt even I'm not driving it.

Why the hell, this review is being reported

Must be Perodua Fanboy

Don't get me wrong, I still kept my old Axia.

Sampan r&h.

Bagus sikit ja dari myvi standard.

Good2
Change sport rim + advan db silence tyre
black tinted
Put sprintex supercharger

This post has been edited by sgshuhu: Nov 6 2016, 08:14 PM

I drive both Perodua and Proton, so I know pros and cons of both cars.
You should try test drive it.

Yg bagus sikit dari Myvi tu Toyota

Work hard or drive pr.. Ay?

best bang for buck i must say

Yo TS...

Have you driven Saga FLX before? If so, how's the ride, handling & speaker sound quality of the new Saga compare to Saga FLX. Yes, I read your review, I just want to know if you have experience with Saga FLX. I'm currently driving Saga FLX. Thank you.

This post has been edited by DX_Kidjal: Nov 6 2016, 08:26 PM

wiring problem?

my pijot ..if the car was shifted to D and drive before ..when stop ..my car must shift to P instead of N ...else if i open the driver door or unbuckle the seat belt during N ..alarm will happen

of course ..you wont have this issue if unbuckle passenger seat when the car is not moving

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Nov 6 2016, 08:28 PM

The dashboard is too vertical.

saga premium worth, why not persona?

if ignore the transmission

Any acceleration lag like blm /flx?

Only when moving from stop, because the clutch didn't enggage yet.
Other than than no lag at all.

This is the feature I hated most in saga. And they haven't fix our lol.

Only the NVH are better in Saga than Persona, other than that Persona win all.

Never driven one but I've sit in one, the sound system not so much difference because Proton really did a good job with their car sound system.

I think new Saga handles better because Proton had improved the chassis.

The interior quality is so much better than older Proton.

They can't fix it because it's the nature of Clutch based CVT.
Proton should change to torque converter CVT

u mean throttle delay?

need to shift to P 🤔

HHHNNNGGGGGGGHHHHH JIZZED LIAO

yes, i guessed i used the wrong word

haha
i feel u on the throttle delay
the whole BLM is great...the 4AT is the only letdown but p1 can't do anything...can't blame em

It didn't work

If throttle delay, in the new Saga there is none, throttle delay is worse in Axia.

someone else just said there is. from stop.

there is no delay when it starts moving already.

just like blm/flx.

Cons
- its a proton and thats all it take not to buy

Thanks TS for the review. It is really helpful. How is the FC?

when they do the wing design on iriz, many condemn say horizontal design not suitable for small cars. when toyolta, honde and fod does it its no problem top kek

apal lagi /k mau

This post has been edited by xxhunter: Nov 6 2016, 11:03 PM

K

of course have, its a clutch based cvt. it will only get better when the ecu learns your driving habit.

test drive it only briefly

pickup for a 1.3 is nice

no lotus ride and handling but still handles well enough

slightly annoyed by the acceleration i get from stop start movement

cabin width is quite narrow... guess i'm too used to a car with wider cabin width

hi mind sharing your fuel consumption?
Would like to know if the new Saga can beat an Iriz. I believe it can

I loled at this review.

I can remove the saga name and put names like bmw m5 or merc c250 and it still looks ok.

Eithet this saga is Asia's answer to bmw or this is just another puji puji review but owner will mever buy another proton after this?

Today i park beside saga, first impression i though is contis bmw or audi A3 but damn is saga! I luff.

Its really looks good especially with premium

If that's the impression then I think they are in a good track. Hope they can really turn it around and make a name for themselves. They have been nothing but a joke.

This post has been edited by Jag23sys: Nov 6 2016, 11:56 PM

What you mean by don't have illuminated cluster?dont get this

Illuminated as in the cluster lights up once the engine is started.. and dims down once the low beam turned on..
Non illuminated is a cluster that only lights up once the low beam turned on..

Duhh.. thats why its in the A-B segment.. they already have Preve and Suprima at C..

And dont bring torsion beam rear to C segment.. stick with the multi-link..

Err... Toyota Corolla Altis.. Hyundai Elantra..

At year 2016 the quality standard of the the lowest model should be the new Persona, not recycle the older Saga/Savvy and make new Saga again.

Proton need to up the level of standard, not just to compete with Bezza.

They do this, and more good car at cheaper price will come.

This post has been edited by maxizanc: Nov 7 2016, 08:53 AM

new Protons in general are good in terms of handling~ my Neo cornering at 140-160 also no feel wobbly~ try doing the same with maibi, vios, almari and shitty~