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post Nov 5 2016, 06:26 AM, updated 10y ago

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ppl can be very selfish most time, i'm closing this thread

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WEBE fair usage policies does not allow tethering, no torrent,
streaming music n video speed is capped in utube n spotify etc, the worst, video call n internet call is also capped laugh.gif
it is like driving a sport car with a lot of petrol but cannot go beyond 10km/h

don't believe everything u heard from telco hahaha



This post has been edited by junsheng: Nov 6 2016, 03:50 PM
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post Nov 5 2016, 06:30 AM

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> give unlimited
> abuse

that's why we can't have any nice things in life
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QUOTE(graphidz @ Nov 5 2016, 06:30 AM)
> give unlimited
> abuse

that's why we can't have any nice things in life
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whn they go 2 throttle streaming n Internet call, it just make the user feel more excited 2 abuse it
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you are not supposed to share thiz

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Wont even bother with p1/webe.

If a telco dictates what u can or cannot use with the data u paid for, tell the telco to go ESAD
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 06:26 AM)
wat u need

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now your whole family can enjoy RM79 unlimited Internet  laugh.gif
thanks ujelly 4 guidance n tested 4 whole month + without bill shock yet
ok i finished testing WEBE look like it is another P1 potong stim hype, going 2 terminate it

WEBE fair usage policies does not allow tethering, no torrent,
streaming music n video speed is capped in utube n spotify etc, the worst, video call n internet call is also capped  laugh.gif
whn u have a policies like tat it just make u eager 2 break it
don't believe everything u heard from telco hahaha


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Wtf TS u fool, post in /k. Now they are gonna patch this shit. Dammit
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 06:33 AM)
whn they go 2 throttle streaming n Internet call, it just make the user feel more excited 2 abuse it
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ern does the throttle affect streaming? ada lag ?
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post Nov 5 2016, 08:31 AM

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Webe will block it gg.
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Ts lately having some problem?
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post Nov 5 2016, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Nov 5 2016, 07:58 AM)
ern does the throttle affect streaming? ada lag ?
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if u watch 480p utube video no lag, more than tat, lag
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 11:27 AM)
if u watch 480p utube video no lag, more than tat, lag
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LOL

Straight cancel the subscription lah dew.


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post Nov 5 2016, 11:29 AM

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cant we just use ssh tunnel or install squid (if available)

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thanks dude

now they find their way of blocking this shit

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 11:27 AM)
if u watch 480p utube video no lag, more than tat, lag
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720p lag? lel, whats the point having unlimited quota anyway? want to download also need to resort seedbox.
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The case had been passed on to relevant department. It will be fixed shortly.

Thank you for informing WEBE.

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QUOTE(L_nette @ Nov 5 2016, 07:55 AM)
Wtf TS u fool, post in /k. Now they are gonna patch this shit. Dammit
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QUOTE(heavensea @ Nov 5 2016, 08:31 AM)
Webe will block it gg.
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The case had been passed on to relevant department. It will be fixed shortly.

Thank you for informing WEBE.

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i challenge webe to block, muahahahaha,
webe u want to play a game?

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 06:26 AM)
wat u need

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STEPS

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


now your whole family can enjoy RM79 unlimited Internet  laugh.gif
thanks ujelly 4 guidance n tested 4 whole month + without bill shock yet
ok i finished testing WEBE look like it is another P1 potong stim hype, going 2 terminate it

WEBE fair usage policies does not allow tethering, no torrent,
streaming music n video speed is capped in utube n spotify etc, the worst, video call n internet call is also capped  laugh.gif
whn u have a policies like tat it just make u eager 2 break it
don't believe everything u heard from telco hahaha


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blocked/limited in the things that actually matter... as good as useless... actually thought of WEBE, thanks for the review.

If a WEBE staff is reading this, please tell your company that this is 2016. Customers are not stupid anymore.

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Nov 5 2016, 11:29 AM)
cant we just use ssh tunnel or install squid (if available)
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can no problem also laugh.gif
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Thought of subscribing to webe. But if they limit streaming HD video, cancel niat
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Nov 5 2016, 11:29 AM)
LOL

Straight cancel the subscription lah dew.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Nov 5 2016, 12:40 PM)
720p lag? lel, whats the point having unlimited quota anyway? want to download also need to resort seedbox.
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QUOTE(coconico @ Nov 5 2016, 01:01 PM)
Thought of subscribing to webe. But if they limit streaming HD video, cancel niat
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utube streaming is limited to > 2mb, from wat i see here
but still not a problem if u have the mentioned VPN
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Ts lately having some problem?
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yup, too free cry.gif
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Nov 5 2016, 12:40 PM)
720p lag? lel, whats the point having unlimited quota anyway? want to download also need to resort seedbox.
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tipu la

imma webe user 1080p youtube no prob at all download also no prob no cap no nothing, working as it is full 4G

have to check if within 4G or not

if got only 3G & below, of cos lag
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 06:26 AM)
wat u need

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


STEPS

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


now your whole family can enjoy RM79 unlimited Internet  laugh.gif
thanks ujelly 4 guidance n tested 4 whole month + without bill shock yet
ok i finished testing WEBE look like it is another P1 potong stim hype, going 2 terminate it

WEBE fair usage policies does not allow tethering, no torrent,
streaming music n video speed is capped in utube n spotify etc, the worst, video call n internet call is also capped  laugh.gif
whn u have a policies like tat it just make u eager 2 break it
don't believe everything u heard from telco hahaha


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Hahaha soon they will find a way to block all that. Diu

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Nov 5 2016, 01:13 PM)
tipu la

imma webe user 1080p youtube no prob at all download also no prob no cap no nothing, working as it is full 4G

have to check if within 4G or not

if got only 3G & below, of cos lag
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here, i remember tis is 1 on k/ sharing so i go n investigate, so i found out it is true not just utube lol



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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 01:05 PM)
yup, too free  cry.gif
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I can fill your free time. brows.gif
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QUOTE(georgegarcia @ Nov 5 2016, 01:21 PM)
Hahaha soon they will find a way to block all that. Diu
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the big big telco like AT&T got problem with tethering detection, u think how WEBE will perform ler?
ofcauz they can invest a lot n monitor n ban in those area, but wat would the ROI will be?


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I can fill your free time. brows.gif
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like how? brows.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 01:32 PM)
the big big telco like AT&T got problem with tethering detection, u think how WEBE will perform ler?
ofcauz they can invest a lot n monitor n ban in those area, but wat would the ROI will be?
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Even if they monitor, there's always a way to bypass it. How are they going to prove that you did indeed tether.

Telcos have a hard time blocking tethering in reality because there's tons of ways to by pass it.
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 01:32 PM)
like how?  brows.gif
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Play game together at your house. Haha. laugh.gif
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Play game together at your house. Haha. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 01:23 PM)
here, i remember tis is 1 on k/ sharing so i go n investigate, so i found out it is true not just utube lol


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but but if use for example maxis also, speed fast no use since got quota, you dare stream hd video with 20gb data per month? sweat.gif

currently im using maxis 10gb data per month i need to play youtube videos at 360p...if not data usage cant even reach 1 month already kaput cry.gif

at least can 480p with unlimited data seems ok to me hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Qooohqoo @ Nov 5 2016, 01:34 PM)
Even if they monitor, there's always a way to bypass it. How are they going to prove that you did indeed tether.

Telcos have a hard time blocking tethering in reality because there's tons of ways to by pass it.
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it is way simpler for US telco, bcauz they can say u no like u leave, in this area i'm monopoly, i can invest a lot in monitoring equipments
but webe cannot, as we have many options avaliable & coverage is quite ok, i no like i jump, if WEBE stupid go n invest thn be prepare 2 bleed red on ROI
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QUOTE(testkindtest @ Nov 5 2016, 01:40 PM)
but but if use for example maxis also, speed fast no use since got quota, you dare stream hd video with 20gb data per month?  sweat.gif

currently im using maxis 10gb data per month i need to play youtube videos at 360p...if not data usage cant even reach 1 month already kaput  cry.gif

at least can 480p with unlimited data seems ok to me  hmm.gif
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u dono umobile n digi got unlimited utube streaming?
don't go with maxsheet
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 01:45 PM)
u dono umobile n digi got unlimited utube streaming?
don't go with maxsheet
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umobile already out of my list, tried before line sucks

not sure bout digi, i never saw anything on their postpaid plan about unlimited youtube hmm.gif
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QUOTE(testkindtest @ Nov 5 2016, 01:54 PM)
umobile already out of my list, tried before line sucks

not sure bout digi, i never saw anything on their postpaid plan about unlimited youtube  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 06:33 AM)
whn they go 2 throttle streaming n Internet call, it just make the user feel more excited 2 abuse it
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Thats how life is supposed to be brows.gif
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Thats how life is supposed to be brows.gif
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like whn see bra, will feel more excited n go unbutton it brows.gif
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QUOTE(graphidz @ Nov 5 2016, 06:30 AM)
> give unlimited
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that's why we can't have any nice things in life
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that unker in the video confident ma his service better, we test his service lo
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 06:26 AM)
ok i finished testing WEBE look like it is another P1 potong stim hype, going 2 terminate it

WEBE fair usage policies does not allow tethering, no torrent,
streaming music n video speed is capped in utube n spotify etc, the worst, video call n internet call is also capped  laugh.gif
whn u have a policies like tat it just make u eager 2 break it
don't believe everything u heard from telco hahaha


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if everything also cap even utube etc apa guna unlimited internet?

no main limit but micro limit

cibai punya isp malaysia
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 06:26 AM)
wat u need

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


STEPS

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


now your whole family can enjoy RM79 unlimited Internet  laugh.gif
thanks ujelly 4 guidance n tested 4 whole month + without bill shock yet
ok i finished testing WEBE look like it is another P1 potong stim hype, going 2 terminate it

WEBE fair usage policies does not allow tethering, no torrent,
streaming music n video speed is capped in utube n spotify etc, the worst, video call n internet call is also capped  laugh.gif
whn u have a policies like tat it just make u eager 2 break it
don't believe everything u heard from telco hahaha


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Rich man can try la....not for poorfags...waste 79 just to get mediocre speed.
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 01:32 PM)
the big big telco like AT&T got problem with tethering detection, u think how WEBE will perform ler?
ofcauz they can invest a lot n monitor n ban in those area, but wat would the ROI will be?
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I wish they dont lol..so vpn can expel all those caps so on?
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 02:07 PM)
like whn see bra, will feel more excited n go unbutton it  brows.gif
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Hi,
Thanks for highlighting this. We will take necessary action to fix this loophole.

QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 07:26 AM)

now your whole family can enjoy RM79 unlimited Internet  laugh.gif
thanks ujelly 4 guidance n tested 4 whole month + without bill shock yet
ok i finished testing WEBE look like it is another P1 potong stim hype, going 2 terminate it

WEBE fair usage policies does not allow tethering, no torrent,
streaming music n video speed is capped in utube n spotify etc, the worst, video call n internet call is also capped  laugh.gif
whn u have a policies like tat it just make u eager 2 break it
don't believe everything u heard from telco hahaha
Kindly be reminded that P2P download is capped at 64kbps is to adhere to the FUP policies.
Other data usage is unlimited. Calls and sms are free for local, and for overseas roaming is chargeable.

For further understanding of the T&C, please read here - http://bit.ly/2fzBMNk

A word of advice to the rest, that tinkering with the system will lead to termination if there were evidence of wrongdoing.
We would remind everyone to stick to the T&C of service ya.

Have a nice weekend.



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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 02:07 PM)
like whn see bra, will feel more excited n go unbutton it  brows.gif
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will junsheng unbutton the bras? if got 10 pairs of bras which one will u unbutton? innocent.gif
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QUOTE(webeofficial @ Nov 5 2016, 04:21 PM)
Hi,
Thanks for highlighting this. We will take necessary action to fix this loophole.
Kindly be reminded that P2P download is capped at 64kbps is to adhere to the FUP policies.
Other data usage is unlimited. Calls and sms are free for local, and for overseas roaming is chargeable.

For further understanding of the T&C, please read here - http://bit.ly/2fzBMNk

A word of advice to the rest, that tinkering with the system will lead to termination if there were evidence of wrongdoing.
We would remind everyone to stick to the T&C of service ya.

Have a nice weekend.
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pls do let me knw whn u upgraded ur system, so tat i will look in2 it again laugh.gif
we r just tinkering with our phone not ur system, ur policies didn't say we cannot change phone setting

thanks my weekend is awesome, thanks to WEBE smile.gif
torrent with webe is sure nice, i will connect to my seed box and see its capabilities
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QUOTE(georgegarcia @ Nov 5 2016, 03:30 PM)
I wish they dont lol..so vpn can expel all those caps so on?
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what caps?
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 05:33 PM)
what caps?
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Like u said 2mb on utube and torrent things
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now your whole family can enjoy RM79 unlimited Internet  laugh.gif
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ok i finished testing WEBE look like it is another P1 potong stim hype, going 2 terminate it

WEBE fair usage policies does not allow tethering, no torrent,
streaming music n video speed is capped in utube n spotify etc, the worst, video call n internet call is also capped  laugh.gif
whn u have a policies like tat it just make u eager 2 break it
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QUOTE(georgegarcia @ Nov 5 2016, 05:35 PM)
Like u said 2mb on utube and torrent things
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vpn can solve it
open / sstp etc
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 5 2016, 04:40 PM)
How's steam download speed?
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got capping on prawn?
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 01:32 PM)
the big big telco like AT&T got problem with tethering detection, u think how WEBE will perform ler?
ofcauz they can invest a lot n monitor n ban in those area, but wat would the ROI will be?
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I can think of....

- that customer device is steadily connected to this cell tower and does not move around

- that customer is always on vpn

- that customer is consuming a lot of data

- that customer is consuming almost non-stop as if the phone display is 24/7 on

- that customer IMEI does not belong to a phone-class device

- that customer Android device fails checksum test against known firmware checksum

- webrtc data leak that reveals ip behind vpn connections

- generate statistics out of traffic http://caia.swin.edu.au/reports/090914A/CAIA-TR-090914A.pdf

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Dude, for things like this keep under the radar.
If still want to share with the rest, offer PM to other users.

Don't go excited spilling the beans too much.
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QUOTE(webeofficial @ Nov 5 2016, 04:21 PM)
Hi,
Thanks for highlighting this. We will take necessary action to fix this loophole.
Kindly be reminded that P2P download is capped at 64kbps is to adhere to the FUP policies.
Other data usage is unlimited. Calls and sms are free for local, and for overseas roaming is chargeable.

For further understanding of the T&C, please read here - http://bit.ly/2fzBMNk

A word of advice to the rest, that tinkering with the system will lead to termination if there were evidence of wrongdoing.
We would remind everyone to stick to the T&C of service ya.

Have a nice weekend.
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Install a monitoring system ..then only can talk like pro.
It seem currently it still can abuse tethering unlimited by VPN way.
Should have stick to original plan rm8 for 20GB which will definitely enticing.
Just like XOX telco...finish data..instant stop.
Want some more buy data.

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QUOTE(cicak.fakir @ Nov 5 2016, 06:55 PM)
I can think of....

- that customer device is steadily connected to this cell tower and does not move around

What if customer at office and home?

- that customer is always on vpn

VPN is what customer want to hide so that phone cannot be easily hack. Customer right.

- that customer is consuming a lot of data

Once under VPN....data cannot be trace lo.

- that customer is consuming almost non-stop as if the phone display is 24/7 on

VPN hide data consuming almost non-stop and phone obviously 24/7 on. Can track meh?

- that customer IMEI does not belong to a phone-class device

Current promotion rm79 no need phone to use mah.

- that customer Android device fails checksum test against known firmware checksum

You think Webe system can hack customer phone kah. The most can request IMEI...that all...you think Webe system can check known firmware checksum.


- webrtc data leak that reveals ip behind vpn connection

You still need to invest monitoring system

- generate statistics out of traffic http://caia.swin.edu.au/reports/090914A/CAIA-TR-090914A.pdf

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QUOTE(MakNok @ Nov 5 2016, 08:07 PM)
Once under VPN....data cannot be trace lo.
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LOL everytime a human says "data cannot be traced" when using vpn. so noob. so misleading a statement.
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LOL everytime a human says "data cannot be traced" when using vpn. so noob. so misleading a statement.
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Misleading...hahaha
It only misleading if they keep patching again and again and again.

That why I point out....Use XoX system....once finish data...instant stop.,..problem solved.
Webe I repeat... Should have do promo on 20GB for rm8 thingy.

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QUOTE(MakNok @ Nov 5 2016, 09:35 PM)
Misleading...hahaha
It only misleading if they keep patching again and again and again.

That why I point out....Use XoX system....once finish data...instant stop.,..problem solved.
Webe I repeat... Should have do promo on 20GB for rm8 thingy.
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whether using vpn or not, byte counter still increase. to say that data usage is "untraceable inside vpn" is misleading. you think we vpn administrators that foolish to spent time to crack and see what are inside every vpn, is it?

content inside vpn - "hidden" because of encryption.
byte usage - vpn or not, you cannot hide.

I just watch counter to know that your are using your pipeline.

if your byte counter keep increasing beyond reasonable usage patterns and with all the supporting behavioural and circumstantial observations, it will be sufficient to indicate with high certainty that you are abusing "one device" policy.

don't even need to crack into vpn, no need to see unencrypted packets to determine its not a phone.
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y do u guys thing webe is losing by this method?

dont u think its their marketing strategy to get another subscriber?
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got capping on prawn?
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Nov 5 2016, 07:13 PM)
Dude, for things like this keep under the radar.
If still want to share with the rest, offer PM to other users.

Don't go excited spilling the beans too much.
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dude, no matter how, over utilizing will create a monitoring trigger
even if u didn't tether u over utilize on ur phone it will also trigger the event
like it or not there are no safest method 2 do it


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QUOTE(cicak.fakir @ Nov 5 2016, 06:55 PM)
I can think of....

- that customer device is steadily connected to this cell tower and does not move around

- that customer is always on vpn

- that customer is consuming a lot of data

- that customer is consuming almost non-stop as if the phone display is 24/7 on

- that customer IMEI does not belong to a phone-class device

- that customer Android device fails checksum test against known firmware checksum

- webrtc data leak that reveals ip behind vpn connections

- generate statistics out of traffic http://caia.swin.edu.au/reports/090914A/CAIA-TR-090914A.pdf

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those are invalid monitoring that will cause a lot of inconveniences to users, can be easily prevented
always on vpn cases u can do some advance tunneling

the last is consuming a lot of data and non-stop cannot be prevented
u can use the tethering method 2 do some light - medium internet use as the best speed u can get with WEBE is less than 2MB/s
for high load internet use, it is much more cost effective 2 get a home internet package
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QUOTE(cicak.fakir @ Nov 5 2016, 06:55 PM)
I can think of....

- that customer device is steadily connected to this cell tower and does not move around

- that customer is always on vpn

- that customer is consuming a lot of data

- that customer is consuming almost non-stop as if the phone display is 24/7 on

- that customer IMEI does not belong to a phone-class device

- that customer Android device fails checksum test against known firmware checksum

- webrtc data leak that reveals ip behind vpn connections

- generate statistics out of traffic http://caia.swin.edu.au/reports/090914A/CAIA-TR-090914A.pdf

-
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those are invalid monitoring that will cause a lot of inconveniences to users, can be easily prevented
always on vpn cases u can do some advance tunneling

the last is consuming a lot of data and non-stop cannot be prevented
u can use the tethering method 2 do some light - medium internet use as the best speed u can get with WEBE is less than 2MB/s
for high load internet use, it is much more cost effective 2 get a home internet package
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 6 2016, 02:55 AM)
those are invalid monitoring that will cause a lot of inconveniences to users, can be easily prevented
always on vpn cases u can do some advance tunneling

the last is consuming a lot of data and non-stop cannot be prevented
u can use the tethering method 2 do some light - medium internet use as the best speed u can get with WEBE is less than 2MB/s
for high load internet use, it is much more cost effective 2 get a home internet package
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of course always-on vpn is not sufficient to frame as abusing webe - or any operator - that relies on single device policy.

but combined with other observations like continuously downloading (who's on their phone 24/ downloading?), not moving from one celltower to another (suggesting that the user is "anchored") and the fact that vpn is in play (#nothing2hide) will be tell-tale indicators. and this observation can be compared against behavioural aggregation of few thousands users over some period of time.

i'm not affiliated with any telco. just someone who's fed up when noobs and vpn enthusiast and vpn operators out there suggest the misconception that "traffic inside vpn does not count against byte quota, so browse unlimited", and that we network administrators are not able to determine you are using vpn is wrong.

and while you think for now you can use vpn to hide and abuse webe's single device policy, it will just be a matter of time before a seasoned network administrator rat you out - we just need statistics and time to hunt and point finger if we had such single device policy. not necessarily needing some big-ass monitoring system like MakNok has been repeating.

This post has been edited by cicak.fakir: Nov 6 2016, 03:44 AM
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QUOTE(cicak.fakir @ Nov 6 2016, 03:43 AM)
of course always-on vpn is not sufficient to frame as abusing webe - or any operator - that relies on single device policy.

but combined with other observations like continuously downloading (who's on their phone 24/ downloading?), not moving from one celltower to another (suggesting that the user is "anchored") and the fact that vpn is in play (#nothing2hide) will be tell-tale indicators. and this observation can be compared against behavioural aggregation of few thousands users over some period of time.

i'm not affiliated with any telco. just someone who's fed up when noobs and vpn enthusiast and vpn operators out there suggest the misconception that "traffic inside vpn does not count against byte quota, so browse unlimited", and that we network administrators are not able to determine you are using vpn is wrong.

and while you think for now you can use vpn to hide and abuse webe's single device policy, it will just be a matter of time before a seasoned network administrator rat you out - we just need statistics and time to hunt and point finger if we had such single device policy. not necessarily needing some big-ass monitoring system like MakNok has been repeating.
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use VPN to browse unlimited was a different case, that were due to last time cut off and monitoring is not implemented effectively
yes by just monitor usage, but the speed cap of the single device limits the functionalities of the device

it is just a work around, chill
maybe if i had the time i will snoop n post the list of services, port n ip that is speed capped & wat is affected, we can't have a shady telco lying to users, they must come clean


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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 05:18 PM)
pls do let me knw whn u upgraded ur system, so tat i will look in2 it again laugh.gif
we r just tinkering with our phone not ur system, ur policies didn't say we cannot change phone setting

thanks my weekend is awesome, thanks to WEBE  smile.gif 
torrent with webe is sure nice, i will connect to my seed box and see its capabilities
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Sorry to say, you might think you are smart but eventually it is not
I am working in IT team from telco (not webe), we dont actually need million to invest in our system to detect the hotspot sharing, what we need is just a cheap and simple application to detect MAC and number of devices which connected to the network at the same time. Every device will have a unique MAC code.

& of course, we dont need to have invest million of ringgit just to invest those to bypass the system and block/fix it every time, what we need to do is just suspend or terminate your line if you detect it, as simple as that. even if you complaint to SKMM or court, you will be lost as you are violating the T&C

Not to be surprise, my friend who bypass the Webe hotspot had been charge for RM500+ in his bill as at September and the number had been suspended due to fraud & of course, he haven't pay for the bill yet. The only option for him now will be wait for blacklist in CTOS or proceed to pay the bill (without having any chance to sign up the Webe service) unless using other people IC


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QUOTE(ckyow1 @ Nov 6 2016, 11:58 AM)
Sorry to say, you might think you are smart but eventually it is not
I am working in IT team from telco (not webe), we dont actually need million to invest in our system to detect the hotspot sharing, what we need is just a cheap and simple application to detect MAC and number of devices which connected to the network at the same time. Every device will have a unique MAC code.

& of course, we dont need to have invest million of ringgit just to invest those to bypass the system and block/fix it every time, what we need to do is just suspend or terminate your line if you detect it, as simple as that. even if you complaint to SKMM or court, you will be lost as you are violating the T&C

Not to be surprise, my friend who bypass the Webe hotspot had been charge for RM500+ in his bill as at September and the number had been suspended due to fraud & of course, he haven't pay for the bill yet. The only option for him now will be wait for blacklist in CTOS or proceed to pay the bill (without having any chance to sign up the Webe service) unless using other people IC
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but junsheng method actually route all WAN traffic from single MAC address which is the phone, not NAT like normal hotspot.
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QUOTE(mohd86 @ Nov 6 2016, 12:39 PM)
but junsheng method actually route all WAN traffic from single MAC address which is the phone, not NAT like normal hotspot.
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No matter how smart you are, there will be a way for telco to detect it, just like unlimited call and sms plan offer by other telco, if you abuse the usage, your line will be suspended and blacklisted.

If you need more details from my friend who being blacklisted by webe recently, just PM me, TQ

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QUOTE(ckyow1 @ Nov 6 2016, 01:33 PM)
No matter how smart you are, there will be a way for telco to detect it, just like unlimited call and sms plan offer by other telco, if you abuse the usage, your line will be suspended and blacklisted.

If you need more details from my friend who being blacklisted by webe recently, just PM me, TQ
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but webe said it's unlimited usage as long as it is coming from the phone.

now what they do is. they route all the bandwidth at intra level wrap them nicely and ask the phone to send it..

in technical way it looks legit. and from webe it looks like its coming from a single source. the only way to block it is to thottle or just cut off the vpn address.
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QUOTE(mohd86 @ Nov 6 2016, 12:39 PM)
but junsheng method actually route all WAN traffic from single MAC address which is the phone, not NAT like normal hotspot.
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QUOTE(ckyow1 @ Nov 6 2016, 01:33 PM)
No matter how smart you are, there will be a way for telco to detect it, just like unlimited call and sms plan offer by other telco, if you abuse the usage, your line will be suspended and blacklisted.

If you need more details from my friend who being blacklisted by webe recently, just PM me, TQ
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i think ckyow1 could mean mobile application, which is illegal in play store TOS required root and cannot be implemented in IOS n windows phone.
futhermore it is violating MCMC act if a business is doing that

or he simply don't knw wat he is talking abt,

ckyow1 i can say i work for abc company, but it does proof ur credibility,
if ur friend has been terminated & charge with 500+ it is his own fault 4 violating the TOS
but an advise 4 ur friend, he can file a MCMC complain tat WEBE is accusing without any proof, if they can't show any concrete proof case will be dismissed
he can go skmm and half of the payment will be waived, y bcauz nowadays telco cannot charge u more thn the credit limit
if he is listed is CTOS even after everything is cleared, pm me i will intro a reputable lawyer tat specially work in these field

or u could be another person that don't knw wat u r talking abt

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so many limit better not use it lah so mafan cap here and there adui
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 06:26 AM)
wat u need

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


STEPS

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


now your whole family can enjoy RM79 unlimited Internet  laugh.gif
thanks ujelly 4 guidance n tested 4 whole month + without bill shock yet
ok i finished testing WEBE look like it is another P1 potong stim hype, going 2 terminate it

WEBE fair usage policies does not allow tethering, no torrent,
streaming music n video speed is capped in utube n spotify etc, the worst, video call n internet call is also capped  laugh.gif
it is like driving a sport car with a lot of petrol but cannot go beyond 10km/h

don't believe everything u heard from telco hahaha


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goodluck TS.wait for webe lawyer knock your door. laugh.gif

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lol..why the hell ushare this....now i have to wait the hole to patched..
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 06:26 AM)
wat u need

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


STEPS

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


now your whole family can enjoy RM79 unlimited Internet  laugh.gif
thanks ujelly 4 guidance n tested 4 whole month + without bill shock yet
ok i finished testing WEBE look like it is another P1 potong stim hype, going 2 terminate it

WEBE fair usage policies does not allow tethering, no torrent,
streaming music n video speed is capped in utube n spotify etc, the worst, video call n internet call is also capped  laugh.gif
it is like driving a sport car with a lot of petrol but cannot go beyond 10km/h

don't believe everything u heard from telco hahaha


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eh last time I thought some traders selling unlimited maxis/celcom/digi prepaid internet line also?

still available meh?

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