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sasuketaichou
post Nov 5 2016, 10:57 PM

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y do u guys thing webe is losing by this method?

dont u think its their marketing strategy to get another subscriber?
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post Nov 6 2016, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(aku_dia @ Nov 5 2016, 06:11 PM)
got capping on prawn?
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post Nov 6 2016, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Nov 5 2016, 07:13 PM)
Dude, for things like this keep under the radar.
If still want to share with the rest, offer PM to other users.

Don't go excited spilling the beans too much.
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dude, no matter how, over utilizing will create a monitoring trigger
even if u didn't tether u over utilize on ur phone it will also trigger the event
like it or not there are no safest method 2 do it


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post Nov 6 2016, 02:55 AM

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QUOTE(cicak.fakir @ Nov 5 2016, 06:55 PM)
I can think of....

- that customer device is steadily connected to this cell tower and does not move around

- that customer is always on vpn

- that customer is consuming a lot of data

- that customer is consuming almost non-stop as if the phone display is 24/7 on

- that customer IMEI does not belong to a phone-class device

- that customer Android device fails checksum test against known firmware checksum

- webrtc data leak that reveals ip behind vpn connections

- generate statistics out of traffic http://caia.swin.edu.au/reports/090914A/CAIA-TR-090914A.pdf

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those are invalid monitoring that will cause a lot of inconveniences to users, can be easily prevented
always on vpn cases u can do some advance tunneling

the last is consuming a lot of data and non-stop cannot be prevented
u can use the tethering method 2 do some light - medium internet use as the best speed u can get with WEBE is less than 2MB/s
for high load internet use, it is much more cost effective 2 get a home internet package
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QUOTE(cicak.fakir @ Nov 5 2016, 06:55 PM)
I can think of....

- that customer device is steadily connected to this cell tower and does not move around

- that customer is always on vpn

- that customer is consuming a lot of data

- that customer is consuming almost non-stop as if the phone display is 24/7 on

- that customer IMEI does not belong to a phone-class device

- that customer Android device fails checksum test against known firmware checksum

- webrtc data leak that reveals ip behind vpn connections

- generate statistics out of traffic http://caia.swin.edu.au/reports/090914A/CAIA-TR-090914A.pdf

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those are invalid monitoring that will cause a lot of inconveniences to users, can be easily prevented
always on vpn cases u can do some advance tunneling

the last is consuming a lot of data and non-stop cannot be prevented
u can use the tethering method 2 do some light - medium internet use as the best speed u can get with WEBE is less than 2MB/s
for high load internet use, it is much more cost effective 2 get a home internet package
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post Nov 6 2016, 03:43 AM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 6 2016, 02:55 AM)
those are invalid monitoring that will cause a lot of inconveniences to users, can be easily prevented
always on vpn cases u can do some advance tunneling

the last is consuming a lot of data and non-stop cannot be prevented
u can use the tethering method 2 do some light - medium internet use as the best speed u can get with WEBE is less than 2MB/s
for high load internet use, it is much more cost effective 2 get a home internet package
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of course always-on vpn is not sufficient to frame as abusing webe - or any operator - that relies on single device policy.

but combined with other observations like continuously downloading (who's on their phone 24/ downloading?), not moving from one celltower to another (suggesting that the user is "anchored") and the fact that vpn is in play (#nothing2hide) will be tell-tale indicators. and this observation can be compared against behavioural aggregation of few thousands users over some period of time.

i'm not affiliated with any telco. just someone who's fed up when noobs and vpn enthusiast and vpn operators out there suggest the misconception that "traffic inside vpn does not count against byte quota, so browse unlimited", and that we network administrators are not able to determine you are using vpn is wrong.

and while you think for now you can use vpn to hide and abuse webe's single device policy, it will just be a matter of time before a seasoned network administrator rat you out - we just need statistics and time to hunt and point finger if we had such single device policy. not necessarily needing some big-ass monitoring system like MakNok has been repeating.

This post has been edited by cicak.fakir: Nov 6 2016, 03:44 AM
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post Nov 6 2016, 04:07 AM

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why his tongue like that one
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post Nov 6 2016, 04:43 AM

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QUOTE(cicak.fakir @ Nov 6 2016, 03:43 AM)
of course always-on vpn is not sufficient to frame as abusing webe - or any operator - that relies on single device policy.

but combined with other observations like continuously downloading (who's on their phone 24/ downloading?), not moving from one celltower to another (suggesting that the user is "anchored") and the fact that vpn is in play (#nothing2hide) will be tell-tale indicators. and this observation can be compared against behavioural aggregation of few thousands users over some period of time.

i'm not affiliated with any telco. just someone who's fed up when noobs and vpn enthusiast and vpn operators out there suggest the misconception that "traffic inside vpn does not count against byte quota, so browse unlimited", and that we network administrators are not able to determine you are using vpn is wrong.

and while you think for now you can use vpn to hide and abuse webe's single device policy, it will just be a matter of time before a seasoned network administrator rat you out - we just need statistics and time to hunt and point finger if we had such single device policy. not necessarily needing some big-ass monitoring system like MakNok has been repeating.
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use VPN to browse unlimited was a different case, that were due to last time cut off and monitoring is not implemented effectively
yes by just monitor usage, but the speed cap of the single device limits the functionalities of the device

it is just a work around, chill
maybe if i had the time i will snoop n post the list of services, port n ip that is speed capped & wat is affected, we can't have a shady telco lying to users, they must come clean


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post Nov 6 2016, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 05:18 PM)
pls do let me knw whn u upgraded ur system, so tat i will look in2 it again laugh.gif
we r just tinkering with our phone not ur system, ur policies didn't say we cannot change phone setting

thanks my weekend is awesome, thanks to WEBE  smile.gif 
torrent with webe is sure nice, i will connect to my seed box and see its capabilities
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Sorry to say, you might think you are smart but eventually it is not
I am working in IT team from telco (not webe), we dont actually need million to invest in our system to detect the hotspot sharing, what we need is just a cheap and simple application to detect MAC and number of devices which connected to the network at the same time. Every device will have a unique MAC code.

& of course, we dont need to have invest million of ringgit just to invest those to bypass the system and block/fix it every time, what we need to do is just suspend or terminate your line if you detect it, as simple as that. even if you complaint to SKMM or court, you will be lost as you are violating the T&C

Not to be surprise, my friend who bypass the Webe hotspot had been charge for RM500+ in his bill as at September and the number had been suspended due to fraud & of course, he haven't pay for the bill yet. The only option for him now will be wait for blacklist in CTOS or proceed to pay the bill (without having any chance to sign up the Webe service) unless using other people IC


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post Nov 6 2016, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(ckyow1 @ Nov 6 2016, 11:58 AM)
Sorry to say, you might think you are smart but eventually it is not
I am working in IT team from telco (not webe), we dont actually need million to invest in our system to detect the hotspot sharing, what we need is just a cheap and simple application to detect MAC and number of devices which connected to the network at the same time. Every device will have a unique MAC code.

& of course, we dont need to have invest million of ringgit just to invest those to bypass the system and block/fix it every time, what we need to do is just suspend or terminate your line if you detect it, as simple as that. even if you complaint to SKMM or court, you will be lost as you are violating the T&C

Not to be surprise, my friend who bypass the Webe hotspot had been charge for RM500+ in his bill as at September and the number had been suspended due to fraud & of course, he haven't pay for the bill yet. The only option for him now will be wait for blacklist in CTOS or proceed to pay the bill (without having any chance to sign up the Webe service) unless using other people IC
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but junsheng method actually route all WAN traffic from single MAC address which is the phone, not NAT like normal hotspot.
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post Nov 6 2016, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(mohd86 @ Nov 6 2016, 12:39 PM)
but junsheng method actually route all WAN traffic from single MAC address which is the phone, not NAT like normal hotspot.
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No matter how smart you are, there will be a way for telco to detect it, just like unlimited call and sms plan offer by other telco, if you abuse the usage, your line will be suspended and blacklisted.

If you need more details from my friend who being blacklisted by webe recently, just PM me, TQ

This post has been edited by ckyow1: Nov 6 2016, 01:51 PM
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post Nov 6 2016, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(ckyow1 @ Nov 6 2016, 01:33 PM)
No matter how smart you are, there will be a way for telco to detect it, just like unlimited call and sms plan offer by other telco, if you abuse the usage, your line will be suspended and blacklisted.

If you need more details from my friend who being blacklisted by webe recently, just PM me, TQ
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but webe said it's unlimited usage as long as it is coming from the phone.

now what they do is. they route all the bandwidth at intra level wrap them nicely and ask the phone to send it..

in technical way it looks legit. and from webe it looks like its coming from a single source. the only way to block it is to thottle or just cut off the vpn address.
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post Nov 6 2016, 02:45 PM

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post Nov 6 2016, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(mohd86 @ Nov 6 2016, 12:39 PM)
but junsheng method actually route all WAN traffic from single MAC address which is the phone, not NAT like normal hotspot.
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QUOTE(ckyow1 @ Nov 6 2016, 01:33 PM)
No matter how smart you are, there will be a way for telco to detect it, just like unlimited call and sms plan offer by other telco, if you abuse the usage, your line will be suspended and blacklisted.

If you need more details from my friend who being blacklisted by webe recently, just PM me, TQ
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i think ckyow1 could mean mobile application, which is illegal in play store TOS required root and cannot be implemented in IOS n windows phone.
futhermore it is violating MCMC act if a business is doing that

or he simply don't knw wat he is talking abt,

ckyow1 i can say i work for abc company, but it does proof ur credibility,
if ur friend has been terminated & charge with 500+ it is his own fault 4 violating the TOS
but an advise 4 ur friend, he can file a MCMC complain tat WEBE is accusing without any proof, if they can't show any concrete proof case will be dismissed
he can go skmm and half of the payment will be waived, y bcauz nowadays telco cannot charge u more thn the credit limit
if he is listed is CTOS even after everything is cleared, pm me i will intro a reputable lawyer tat specially work in these field

or u could be another person that don't knw wat u r talking abt

This post has been edited by junsheng: Nov 6 2016, 03:20 PM
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post Nov 6 2016, 03:25 PM

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so many limit better not use it lah so mafan cap here and there adui
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post Nov 6 2016, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 06:26 AM)
wat u need

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now your whole family can enjoy RM79 unlimited Internet  laugh.gif
thanks ujelly 4 guidance n tested 4 whole month + without bill shock yet
ok i finished testing WEBE look like it is another P1 potong stim hype, going 2 terminate it

WEBE fair usage policies does not allow tethering, no torrent,
streaming music n video speed is capped in utube n spotify etc, the worst, video call n internet call is also capped  laugh.gif
it is like driving a sport car with a lot of petrol but cannot go beyond 10km/h

don't believe everything u heard from telco hahaha


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goodluck TS.wait for webe lawyer knock your door. laugh.gif

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post Nov 6 2016, 03:37 PM

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lol..why the hell ushare this....now i have to wait the hole to patched..
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 5 2016, 06:26 AM)
wat u need

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STEPS

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


now your whole family can enjoy RM79 unlimited Internet  laugh.gif
thanks ujelly 4 guidance n tested 4 whole month + without bill shock yet
ok i finished testing WEBE look like it is another P1 potong stim hype, going 2 terminate it

WEBE fair usage policies does not allow tethering, no torrent,
streaming music n video speed is capped in utube n spotify etc, the worst, video call n internet call is also capped  laugh.gif
it is like driving a sport car with a lot of petrol but cannot go beyond 10km/h

don't believe everything u heard from telco hahaha


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eh last time I thought some traders selling unlimited maxis/celcom/digi prepaid internet line also?

still available meh?

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