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darkassasin
post Nov 2 2016, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(kcng999 @ Nov 2 2016, 04:51 PM)
1) Buy 2nd/used set should ask for receipt of purchase original or copy in case for future matters.

2) Should be ask phone is 1st owner or family or 2nd or 3rd parties n so on.

3) Should be ask this phone sign by contract at what Telco Company.

4) Should get all the details from 1st owner, if rejected suggestions better don't buy n looks for others.

5) If this issue related to 2nd owner or others parties when purchase better write or whatsapp or sms for the dealing agreement.

6) Nowadays so many signing contract at my telco so that can enjoy new phone, after that billing came then sell off the phone n money gone for other's matters as well.

Good Day Bro/sis.

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This is should be pinned! Thanks for your insight bro

QUOTE(Marcian @ Nov 2 2016, 04:58 PM)
Wow.

No, Maxis will not do anything without a police report.  I didn't lodge a police report as I have no records anymore of my conversation with the seller.  It was months after I bought it.

Since you have the conversations and screenshots, there is no reason not to lodge a report.  This is fraud.  Report it, show the report to Maxis, and request them to unblock the IMEI.  Involve MCMC in the picture if you can.  The current owner of the phone should not be the one to suffer, but Maxis cannot do anything else with their flawed Zerolution contract, except to threaten to block IMEIs.  This is affecting the 2nd-hand phone market.

Good luck bro.
To the ones who offer to buy the blocked IMEI phone, what do you plan to do with it?  Change the IMEI?  What are the recovery options and the cost?  Just asking for information as I do not have the phone with me anymore.  Thanks.
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Surely do. I will lodge police report as soon as I could, since I am stuck with my current project right now. Based on my friend, once I log the case, police with MCMC could work together to see the best resolution that I could get.

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post Nov 2 2016, 05:36 PM

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Well the IMEI is only blocked on MAXIS. If use other telco should be ok. Just get a prepaid sim from your friend that is using a different telco. If it works then just make sure you don't use the set with Maxis
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post Nov 2 2016, 05:41 PM

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Imei block by telco same like iphone locked set from telco. no way to break it so far becox i experience before. The buyer make report, go sme but claim phone no problem..... hehe.. luckily we solve it peacefully....
darkassasin
post Nov 2 2016, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(alextan99 @ Nov 2 2016, 05:36 PM)
Well the IMEI is only blocked on MAXIS. If use other telco should be ok. Just get a prepaid sim from your friend that is using a different telco. If it works then just make sure you don't use the set with Maxis
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The problem is, currently I am using Umobile, and it is still showing "Emergency Call" and no signal at all.

Samsung itself has tried to use all the telcos for my phone, and the issue still persist bro.

Seems the only way is to solve it, it's by communicating with Maxis

This post has been edited by darkassasin: Nov 2 2016, 07:49 PM
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post Nov 2 2016, 07:27 PM

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Nice info from TS and darkassasin, thank u
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post Nov 2 2016, 09:37 PM

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Good share.

I knew telco can block imei num but doesn't really thinks they will do it coz the purpose of it is to block stolen device. Guess now telco is being smart ass, doing it for their own benefits, not the users.

Since u r saying maxis blocking it, do u able to use the phone using other telco lines?such as celcom or digi?imei block could only be localize. Can also be telco-wide. Worth a try TS.

I never knew such MO by phone seller/individual. For now, should stop buying telco set.

This post has been edited by realcheraz: Nov 2 2016, 09:39 PM
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post Nov 2 2016, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(darkassasin @ Nov 2 2016, 05:46 PM)
The problem is, currently I am using Umobile, and it is still showing "Emergency Call" and no signal at all.

Samsung itself has tried to use all the telcos for my phone, and the issue still persist bro.

Seems the only way is to solve it, it's by communicating with Maxis
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They change motherboard but imei can rema8n the same ?
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post Nov 2 2016, 09:46 PM

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I see...since u said all telco is the same, guess this blocking imei is controlled by some other 3rd party server controlled by mcmc perhaps.if overseas, sure able to use.

Change phone mobo can solve it, but then will cost u a bomb.
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post Nov 2 2016, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(KannaSai1 @ Nov 2 2016, 09:41 PM)
They change motherboard but imei can rema8n the same ?
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You are right bro.

And they have changed it twice.

And somehow, IMEI is stil the same

You can ask Samsung SEMS from 1 utama for my case, it is quite famous there apparently, since i am mistakenly thought that samsung does something to my phone, which is incorrect fact ( seems the prev owner has not pay the zerolution bill)

QUOTE(realcheraz @ Nov 2 2016, 09:46 PM)
I see...since u said all telco is the same, guess this blocking imei is controlled by some other 3rd party server controlled by mcmc perhaps.if overseas, sure able to use.

Change phone mobo can solve it, but then will cost u a bomb.
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I have changed the mobo twice by claiming warranty with samsung. And the imei is still the same bro. Now, I am unsure whether Samsung is bluffing me or not, but seems i really need to settle with maxis (or mcmc).

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post Nov 2 2016, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(darkassasin @ Nov 2 2016, 10:12 PM)
You are right bro.

And they have changed it twice.

And somehow, IMEI is stil the same

You can ask Samsung SEMS from 1 utama for my case, it is quite famous there apparently, since i am mistakenly thought that samsung does something to my phone, which is incorrect fact ( seems the prev owner has not pay the zerolution bill)
I have changed the mobo twice by claiming warranty with samsung. And the imei is still the same bro. Now, I am unsure whether Samsung is bluffing me or not, but seems i really need to settle with maxis (or mcmc).
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Normally change new mother board should be different imei even though refurbished/reconditioned set also have different imei.
I think sme didn't change mo or maybe change other's parts.

Should have service sheet from sme.

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post Nov 2 2016, 10:48 PM

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I think samsung is bluffing on you bro...if mobo changed, imei surely changed. Thats I 100% sure.

Imei basically pre-programmed into the comm circuit/mobo used to identified any device connected to any network.
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post Nov 2 2016, 11:04 PM

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People who did this is really desperate.. when the sum of owing raised to certain level, for sure telco will issue court summon.. desperate people will do many kind of tactics to gain money.. but when think about this, this is the worst scam tactic that surely get the person ended up in court.. and such person can do this once only

The risks are always there when do deal in this space.. this is just another example of scam tactic.. should we stop buying telco set? Imo, its goes back to the reason why you are lurking for used set online, reconsider the risks..
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post Nov 2 2016, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(kcng999 @ Nov 2 2016, 10:39 PM)
Normally change new mother board should be different imei even though refurbished/reconditioned set also have different imei.
I think sme didn't change mo or maybe change other's parts.

Should have service sheet from sme.

Cheers.
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Ah i see. Hmm, should have the service sheet then. I am newbie to this kind of things anyway, learn from you, thanks smile.gif

QUOTE(realcheraz @ Nov 2 2016, 10:48 PM)
I think samsung is bluffing on you bro...if mobo changed, imei surely changed. Thats I 100% sure.

Imei basically pre-programmed into the comm circuit/mobo used to identified any device connected to any network.
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Seems so. They just bluff me then sad.gif

Thanks for clarification bro, appreciate it.

But to be honest, nothing could be done on Samsung side also right? They also need protect themselves.
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post Nov 2 2016, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(darkassasin @ Nov 2 2016, 11:04 PM)
Ah i see. Hmm, should have the service sheet then. I am newbie to this kind of things anyway, learn from you, thanks smile.gif
Seems so. They just bluff me then sad.gif

Thanks for clarification bro, appreciate it.

But to be honest, nothing could be done on Samsung side also right? They also need protect themselves.
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Yup. They just 'refused' to replace the mobo coz they new it is not their fault. Did u told samsung about the imei block when claiming for warranty?
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post Nov 2 2016, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(realcheraz @ Nov 2 2016, 11:43 PM)
Yup. They just 'refused' to replace the mobo coz they new it is not their fault. Did u told samsung about the imei block when claiming for warranty?
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Nope, not at all. They are knowing it at the 1st place seems, since they straight suggest me to check with Maxis. i just confused why i cant use my sim slot at the 1st place, not knowing it's about imei block, so i am not ask them to unblock the imei at all sad.gif
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post Nov 3 2016, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(kcng999 @ Nov 2 2016, 10:39 PM)
Normally change new mother board should be different imei even though refurbished/reconditioned set also have different imei.
I think sme didn't change mo or maybe change other's parts.

Should have service sheet from sme.

Cheers.
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I have changed S4 mobo at Samsung before (at least they claimed to have done it). IMEI remain the same, but the counters for earphone, charger, etc all reset to zero. Is it possible to change mobo then flash the old IMEI?

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darkassasin
post Nov 3 2016, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(Marcian @ Nov 3 2016, 12:13 AM)
I have changed S4 mobo at Samsung before (at least they claimed to have done it). IMEI remain the same, but the counters for earphone, charger, etc all reset to zero. Is it possible to change mobo then flash the old IMEI?
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Nah, I need this info as well. Since Samsung claims that they have change the mobo twice tho for my case
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post Nov 3 2016, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(darkassasin @ Nov 2 2016, 11:48 PM)
Nope, not at all. They are knowing it at the 1st place seems, since they straight suggest me to check with Maxis. i just confused why i cant use my sim slot at the 1st place, not knowing it's about imei block, so i am not ask them to unblock the imei at all sad.gif
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Ic...in that case, samsung also may hv access to the system...access to the database where all blacklisted imei stored. Just like ccris/ctos to banks. Same function as this.

Imei is non flashable afaik. At least not at the svc ctr. Maybe the the chipmaker can do it eg Qualcomm etc. It is easier to change the whole hardware, in todays technology may only 1 or multiple chipset. By practice svc ctr wont pull the chipset out and attach to another mobo..its too complicated to do it by hand. The old phone yes, coz base on modular design..where u can easily attach n detach the chip/ic.
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post Nov 3 2016, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(realcheraz @ Nov 3 2016, 12:34 AM)
Ic...in that case, samsung also may hv access to the system...access to the database where all blacklisted imei stored. Just like ccris/ctos to banks. Same function as this.

Imei is non flashable afaik. At least not at the svc ctr. Maybe the the chipmaker can do it eg Qualcomm etc. It is easier to change the whole hardware, in todays technology may only 1 or multiple chipset. By practice svc ctr wont pull the chipset out and attach to another mobo..its too complicated to do it by hand. The old phone yes, coz base on modular design..where u can easily attach n detach the chip/ic.
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Ah i see. Ok then. Let's see with the police report that i have been made, will lead me into something. Thank you for your explanation, man smile.gif

Just becareful guys for buying telco or gift set, it is indeed a hard lesson for me as well tbh. Stay vigilant!

This post has been edited by darkassasin: Nov 3 2016, 01:27 AM
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post Nov 3 2016, 10:55 AM

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Serial number same ?
Imei same?
Need counter check these info

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